Would you pay 2,000 Crowns for a race change?

pong · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Building a new one is always fun

Iluvrien · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Jules wrote: »

Not @ all true. Racial passives play an enormous role in how well optimized characters are.

It is also, you know, one of those things that makes it a character... rather than a pleasing set of numbers.

Tintinabula · March 2015

No but I would spend 2K crowns on the ability to change my characters looks.

chimneyswift_ESO · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Sorry, this is an Elder Scrolls Game. Your choices actually MATTER. If you picked a race at the beginning that you don't like, too bad. Nowhere in the history of TES games can you "change your race." Dumb argument lol

Argoniawind · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

chimneyswift_ESO wrote: »

Sorry, this is an Elder Scrolls Game. Your choices actually MATTER. If you picked a race at the beginning that you don't like, too bad. Nowhere in the history of TES games can you "change your race." Dumb argument lol

Perfectly said!!!!

Erock25 · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Poll has been up for a little over 12 hours now @ZOS . You have over 1600$ already and probably more as I'm sure many people would use this for multiple characters. This is just a small subset of the total people who would purchase a race change. You know all the box sales you're gonna get from the new B2P model?? Yeah probably make more off of race change.

chimneyswift_ESO · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Erock25 wrote: »

Poll has been up for a little over 12 hours now @ZOS . You have over 1600$ already and probably more as I'm sure many people would use this for multiple characters. This is just a small subset of the total people who would purchase a race change. You know all the box sales you're gonna get from the new B2P model?? Yeah probably make more off of race change.

Allowing a race change would just overpopulate the game with only a few races. Horrible idea and it doesn't fit the mold of a TES game at all. Say "NO" to race changes, deal with the choices you've made (this coming from a happy Nord btw).

Jules · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

chimneyswift_ESO wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

Poll has been up for a little over 12 hours now @ZOS . You have over 1600$ already and probably more as I'm sure many people would use this for multiple characters. This is just a small subset of the total people who would purchase a race change. You know all the box sales you're gonna get from the new B2P model?? Yeah probably make more off of race change.

Allowing a race change would just overpopulate the game with only a few races. Horrible idea and it doesn't fit the mold of a TES game at all. Say "NO" to race changes, deal with the choices you've made (this coming from a happy Nord btw).

If you don't want to change your race, no one is making you. It doesn't affect you or your game play in any way to let others change theirs. Some people chose races for passives and the devs have changed the passives. It's only a matter of time.

Jando · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

I voted no because i think $20 is too much. $10 - 15 bucks is the right price.

Iluvrien · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Jules wrote: »

If you don't want to change your race, no one is making you. It doesn't affect you or your game play in any way to let others change theirs. Some people chose races for passives and the devs have changed the passives. It's only a matter of time.

It does affect other people and their game play. This same argument has been made for almost a year. By making it so that the FOTM build is instantly achievable for anyone with cash (in-game or Crown Store) you fundamentally alter the dynamics of grouping in the game. PUG requests will have racial criterion added overnight. You think being unable to group won't affect people's play experience? Some groups already have race/class requirements. This is unlikely to improve if this barrier is removed.

Jules · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Iluvrien wrote: »

It does affect other people and their game play. This same argument has been made for almost a year. By making it so that the FOTM build is instantly achievable for anyone with cash (in-game or Crown Store) you fundamentally alter the dynamics of grouping in the game. PUG requests will have racial criterion added overnight. You think being unable to group won't affect people's play experience? Some groups already have race/class requirements. This is unlikely to improve if this barrier is removed.

There can easily be a 90,120,180 day cool down on race changes. It can easily be a one time only thing even. There can be many ways to eliminate the issue of people constantly changing to the FOTM race. But if the racial passives aren't changing constantly, there is little need for people to constantly want to do it. Also, if the devs had more balanced races people wouldn't gravitate toward only a few.

But the underlying issue is that a build cannot be optimized for PVE or PVP without considering race. Racial passives were altered in 1.6 - when skills are changed fundamentally in game, they return our skill points to us and allow us to make a new choice should we choose to.

Same exact logic.

Edit: forgot to mention that the issues of grouping are not what they once were. Yes stam builds, NB's once had an issue grouping bc everyone was magicka and LA. However with the changes in 1.6 many races, many classes have changed and can now be viable where before they weren't. Players aren't pigeonholed into one build anymore. The perceived threat of "difficulty grouping" just doesn't measure up in comparison to the importance of crucial racial passives.

Iluvrien · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

Jules wrote: »

There can easily be a 90,120,180 day cool down on race changes. It can easily be a one time only thing even. There can be many ways to eliminate the issue of people constantly changing to the FOTM race. But if the racial passives aren't changing constantly, there is little need for people to constantly want to do it. Also, if the devs had more balanced races people wouldn't gravitate toward only a few.

But the underlying issue is that a build cannot be optimized for PVE or PVP without considering race. Racial passives were altered in 1.6 - when skills are changed fundamentally in game, they return our skill points to us and allow us to make a new choice should we choose to.

Same exact logic.

But what this thread is asking for is not better balanced passives, or a one-time change triggered chance... it is for Race Change to be made available for a cost of 2,000 in the Crown Store. Since the OP (and other threads by the same author) are predicated on the money making opportunities of the mechanism I have no expectation of such stringent limits being put into place.

I would much rather they tackle the root cause, imbalanced in-combat racial passives, than offer a race change option which will always only be a temporary solution to this problem.

And since the OP doesn't tend to mention the option of actually just removing the emphasis from Racials when building characters for PvE/PvP I can only come to the conclusion that they don't want the imbalance removed... they just want to be on the positive side of it.

Fi'yra · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

No, way too cheap. I would pay 5k+ but nothing less..

Xjcon · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

I would pay more then 2000, the time I spent getting all the achievements alone on my orc dk would be worth it for me to pay for race change.

Mumnoch · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

I voted yes, but I wouldn't pay 2k for it.

Jules · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Iluvrien wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Not @ all true. Racial passives play an enormous role in how well optimized characters are.

It is also, you know, one of those things that makes it a character... rather than a pleasing set of numbers.

That's a fair point, I'll give it to you on that one. Changing the race also changes look of the character so it does all around change everything.

Divad Zarn · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

It should be usual game part as armor coloring system or barber shop, not like system for separated real money -_-

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

But I would pay for more available characters. (I like the idea of being able to make a character for every race).

Anilahation · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Why are so many people against race changes, have these people never played an MMO lmao jajajajaja

olsborg · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Id pay 5000 crowns for alliance change, but that wont happen sadly. Maybe only when you have completed cadwells gold...dunno.

Erock25 · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

So it looks like we can safely assume around a 50/50 split for people to buy a race change for people here on the forums. It is a small sample size but I think it should hold true over the entire population. Maybe a little bit less considering I assume less casual (and therefore less likely to spend money on race change) people come to the forums. Anyway, I hope this poll has opened ZOS eyes that they should implement a race change sooner, rather than later.

PoisonedPaint · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

Yes, however I would also like appearance changes. After a while Ive noticed things I'd really like to change.

Endurance · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

the whole reason why most previous subscription based games that go free 2 play end up going fully pay 2 win.. its because of people like the topic starter

Rox83 · March 2015

No, I would not spend any Crowns on Race change.

2000 is too high. I think 1000-1500 would be fine, but have a cooldown period on how often you can do the changes.

WillhelmBlack · March 2015

Yes, I would spend 2,000 Crowns to change my Race on one or more characters.

5X that