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Time to ¨Snowflakes¨

Betahkiin
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I see Users who mock those seeking a distinction in the game, something that makes them feel different or special or simply serve as a reminder for a merit or appreciation for something done exclusively in a given time.

They forget that the world in which they live is based on the constant premise?

Leaving aside the ethical and moral analysis and focusing on the assumption that everything is done on the basis of merit and honesty ...

The world is a constant competition for recognition for their efforts, where the biggest rewards is for those who come take them further.

The academic titles, honorable mentions, recommendations, salaries, goods to which you can access, amenities you can be accessed, depending on your time, dedication and effort put into it.

Why make fun of someone looking for the same in the game, saying you are not someone special?

Users actively participating in a beta, are literally working for free to ensure the quality of a product that then everyone will enjoy.

Why not consider them special?

Users who bought in advance the physical and digital editions of the game are those who will awarded to the company with the first cash deposit to start recovering the money invested and generate profits.

Were the first to risk their money (regardless of the reason), put their trust in the product and the company.

Why not consider them special?

Users who from the beginning kept their active subscriptions are those who regardless the ups and downs of performance in the game showed their continued support to the project and the company and are who allowed a flow of incoming money which is reflected (in part) on everything the game has to this day to offer.

Why not consider them special?

Users that despite the new mode of play without subscription (and the small amount of benefits that are currently visible to those) choose to maintain their active subscriptions.

Why not consider them special?

The concept used by many that we are all equal and nobody has the right to feel special is a lie which seeks to annul an opinion without valid arguments.

I invite those users that no matter how much effort it costs them earn their money to divide it with those who have at their side every day and earn less than them.

Also I invite to sell their properties and distributed the money to those with poor housing or living on the streets so they can be equal.

I invite those with academic title and have friends or family who do not have to take out them and copy them, to change the name so that in this way everyone can bear the same title regardless of whether they deserve it or not.

After that we promote the elimination of competition in all sports and there are no first or second position or honorable mentions.

And so we could go on forever altering the course of everything we know.

I think if there special people, people who are at certain times when others do not, people who make certain sacrifices that others do not, people you can count and people with no or people who risk much while others Playing safe letting it run the risk of others.

I think in every aspect of life there are people who can be considered perfectly snowflake and deserves to be.

I support any kind of recognition of these users will either achievements in the game as for their constant support and economic investment in the game.

Or you think that the development and maintenance of a game is based on wishful thinking and experience hardcor gamers?

You think the huge amount of expenses that arise in the company come to settle with the magnificent achievements of some users, or the incredible speed with which others acquire CP, or achieved incredible DPS?

Money.

Money is allowing projects like this exist and anyone who has substantially contributed money or do so in the future should be recognized against those who use content without any kind of extra contribution.

Basically you could say that those who contributed and contribute money to future steadily through subscriptions are those who founded this game and continue to fund future together with those who undertake micro transactions in the store and they also deserve a distinction for doing compared to those without.

I participated in the beta test, perform the pre-purchase of Imperial edition and went subscriber.

I have the rewards of loyalty from 3 and 6 months, but only for one day fails to achieve 9 months.

I decided to stop paying for some months and the return was not in time to achieve the last loyalty reward.

It is unfair that those who kept their active subscriptions have rewards that I will not have?

DO NOT!

They deserve to be consistent in their economic support for the project, and are indeed special for it.

They deserve that stand out from those who were not constant or who were not part of the beginnings of this product.

When you see someone with the suit or the senche mount, far from bothering me will indicate that person's achievement meet a goal and know it is related.

It is part of their history, their passage through the game, the way in which participate and risks or commitments assumed.

See other users with unique titles or cosmetics unique objects should not bother anyone, however, should be of respect and recognition of his contribution and his time in the game.

In short, each special action that involves commitment, effort, dedication, support, conviction, persistence, loyalty, among other things deserves a good recognition.



Greetings!
  • vrine
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    Very well said!
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  • Samadhi
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    Betahkiin wrote: »
    ...
    Users actively participating in a beta, are literally working for free to ensure the quality of a product that then everyone will enjoy.
    ...
    Users who bought in advance the physical and digital editions of the game are those who will awarded to the company with the first cash deposit to start recovering the money invested and generate profits.

    Were the first to risk their money (regardless of the reason), put their trust in the product and the company.
    ...
    Users who from the beginning kept their active subscriptions are those who regardless the ups and downs of performance in the game showed their continued support to the project and the company and are who allowed a flow of incoming money which is reflected (in part) on everything the game has to this day to offer.
    ...
    Users that despite the new mode of play without subscription (and the small amount of benefits that are currently visible to those) choose to maintain their active subscriptions.
    ...

    All of these describe me.

    Do not consider myself special.

    Game out of personal enjoyment, not out of any desire for recognition.
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  • Betahkiin
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    Betahkiin wrote: »
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    Users actively participating in a beta, are literally working for free to ensure the quality of a product that then everyone will enjoy.
    ...
    Users who bought in advance the physical and digital editions of the game are those who will awarded to the company with the first cash deposit to start recovering the money invested and generate profits.

    Were the first to risk their money (regardless of the reason), put their trust in the product and the company.
    ...
    Users who from the beginning kept their active subscriptions are those who regardless the ups and downs of performance in the game showed their continued support to the project and the company and are who allowed a flow of incoming money which is reflected (in part) on everything the game has to this day to offer.
    ...
    Users that despite the new mode of play without subscription (and the small amount of benefits that are currently visible to those) choose to maintain their active subscriptions.
    ...

    All of these describe me.

    Do not consider myself special.

    Game out of personal enjoyment, not out of any desire for recognition.


    Each person decide how to feel about something in particular.

    In your case you do not feel special does not mean that others can not feel that way.

    A respectful way of seeing things is that you can see it as unimportant but at the same time allow others to feel important and worthy of recognition.

    Somebody does not want to receive recognition does not mean that their actions do not deserve.

    Whether by humility or lack of interest, the desire for recognition is independent of the true importance and merit of achievements.
    Edited by Betahkiin on March 19, 2015 6:03AM
  • Ashigaru
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    ITs the honorable mention syndrome. Everyone needs a reward and needs to feel special so nobody stands out above the crowd. When i was a kid if everyone was passed out an award for just showing up we would have all been embarrassed and threw them in the trash.
  • Samadhi
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    Betahkiin wrote: »
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    A respectful way of seeing things is that you can see it as unimportant but at the same time allow others to feel important and worthy of recognition.

    Somebody does not want to receive recognition does not mean that their actions do not deserve.
    ...

    Totally respect that some people wish to feel important through recognition on the part of the company.

    Personally, would trade all the beta and loyalty rewards for a fix to the lag in Cyrodiil.

    It is nice on the part of ZOS to provide rewards for such players; however, it is not really necessary and other avenues of time investment on their part would be more appreciated.
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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  • Zhoyzu
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    id much prefer to be invisible. in the end i die and there is nothing. my achievements do not carry over and eventually no one gives a ***, so i dont give a *** now to save myself the time and effort.
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  • Zimnel
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    I can feel special for things people don't value, just because I don't need their recognition.
    Why another person has to validate me? I'm grown up enough to validate myself and no one else has the right to do that.

    If someone in an online game tries to bother me I send him or her to the dark spot they came from. Straight and hard!
    I have no mercy for those believing they are better than any other person/player for nonsense.

    OP, if someone bothered you, send him to me :p I have some hidden daedras in a bag of no mercy!

    We're in a game to enjoy ourselves, have a blast with our free time and share the game with other players / other people.
  • Betahkiin
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    Ashigaru wrote: »
    ITs the honorable mention syndrome. Everyone needs a reward and needs to feel special so nobody stands out above the crowd. When i was a kid if everyone was passed out an award for just showing up we would have all been embarrassed and threw them in the trash.

    Then ...

    What is the purpose of having names?

    What is the purpose of qualifications in schools?

    What is the purpose of there colors?

    What is the purpose of a difference?

    Life is a constant distinction.

    Haircuts, clothing, perfume, cars, how to speak, names, friends, height, weight, humor, work, everything distinguishes us from others.

    Each and every one of us is special, unique and unrepeatable.

    Every experience, every moment, every decision distinguishes us from others.

    Why hide it?

    If someone is good at something or was part of something unique and unrepeatable, we must force him to hide?

    I think that deny the distinction of others obtained by a legitimate merit is nonsense.

    Why?

    Because we can not do the same?

    Surely everyone can excel at something, it's just a matter of looking at it, you need not be or be the same as others or force others to be as one.
  • Betahkiin
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    Zhoyzu wrote: »
    id much prefer to be invisible. in the end i die and there is nothing. my achievements do not carry over and eventually no one gives a ***, so i dont give a *** now to save myself the time and effort.


    Your way of seeing things is very respectable, just as it is the way of those who want to be visible as well as their achievements.

    They get their recognition will not do to leave your posture, both can coexist in harmony.

    The titles, mounts, pets and cosmetics are things one can never decide to use and remain anonymous or use to enjoy a visibly achievement obtained.
  • Soulshine
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    I stopped wanting to be recognized for things I did well by the time I was 10, as I did not like being singled out for them. As I got older, I grew quite content in the knowledge that I had a certain skill set which gave me the confidence to do many things my peers would not yet have tried until they were older than me. That did not make me special, it just made me a little early to the party. People do catch up. People have other skills that I do not. It all evens out. Constantly focusing on differences often makes people forget we are actually far less unique from one another than we want to believe. Have the courage to be yourself and live your life, whether you are recognized as special or not, and you will be all the happier for it.
  • Betahkiin
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    Zimnel wrote: »
    I can feel special for things people don't value, just because I don't need their recognition.
    Why another person has to validate me? I'm grown up enough to validate myself and no one else has the right to do that.

    If someone in an online game tries to bother me I send him or her to the dark spot they came from. Straight and hard!
    I have no mercy for those believing they are better than any other person/player for nonsense.

    OP, if someone bothered you, send him to me :p I have some hidden daedras in a bag of no mercy!

    We're in a game to enjoy ourselves, have a blast with our free time and share the game with other players / other people.

    You are special.

    We all are.

    But each one is different and achievements let know in certain respects.

    The achievements are not to seek foreign recognition, are to demonstrate the achievements without the need for approval from anyone.

    (I have some dremora in my bag...shhh)


  • Betahkiin
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    Soulshine wrote: »
    I stopped wanting to be recognized for things I did well by the time I was 10, as I did not like being singled out for them. As I got older, I grew quite content in the knowledge that I had a certain skill set which gave me the confidence to do many things my peers would not yet have tried until they were older than me. That did not make me special, it just made me a little early to the party. People do catch up. People have other skills that I do not. It all evens out. Constantly focusing on differences often makes people forget we are actually far less unique from one another than we want to believe. Have the courage to be yourself and live your life, whether you are recognized as special or not, and you will be all the happier for it.

    It is a fact that we are all unique and special.

    For who?

    For self course and then for others.

    What's more, we currently have the ability to communicate through language.

    You and I are different and unique, but we can understand and that is thanks to the achievement of others.

    Achievements that allow us to be where we are and deserve recognition.

    Deny recognition is to deny the effort, dedication and commitment put into something.

    It will change who we are not receiving the recognition?

    If one knows who he is and how valuable such as, no.

    If one does not know how to value, you can help raise self-esteem.

    But this is no fault of recognition, it is because of insecurity itself.

    Recognize an achievement is not something bad, bad is feeding these to validate yourself.

    So I think that the act of granting recognition is not the problem that many point but the purpose of it having for each user.

    That depends on each and not grant recognition in a game will not change anything in that regard.
  • Kragorn
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    Betahkiin wrote: »
    In short, each special action that involves commitment, effort, dedication, support, conviction, persistence, loyalty, among other things deserves a good recognition.
    I completely agree with @Soulshine.

    'Deserving' recognition isn't in my repertoire when it comes to a video game but hey, if you want to feel special then that's fine by me .. until you begin to demand some change or a game scenario that negatively affects me simply so you (or anyone) can get the 'special' feeling: not saying 'you' specifically here, just a general observation.

    Elite raiders come into that latter category, as do several other small cliques. At that point, yeah, I will speak up against the 'snowflakes'.

    @Betahkiin's main point I think, and one I totally agree with, is that doing something because you want a sense of achievement in doing it is fine, but don't expect others to see that as something that 'deserves recognition', either in real-life but certainly in a video game.
    Edited by Kragorn on March 19, 2015 7:30AM
  • Betahkiin
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    Kragorn wrote: »
    Betahkiin wrote: »
    In short, each special action that involves commitment, effort, dedication, support, conviction, persistence, loyalty, among other things deserves a good recognition.
    'Deserving' recognition isn't in my repertoire when it comes to a video game but hey, if you want to feel special then that's fine by me .. until you begin to demand some change or a game scenario that negatively affects me simply so you (or anyone) can get the 'special' feeling.

    Elite raiders comes into that latter category, as do several other small cliques, at that point, yeah, I will speak up against the 'snowflakes'.

    A video game that works like a private club which is attended by partners who invest a monthly fee to enjoy benefits.

    As in every club there's founders, who helped shape it, who made possible the creation from the beginning.

    This evil that recognize their role or contribution?

    If this is a video game that works like many other entertainment media where it respects and values ​​the antiquity of a partner and give recognition.

    Some use the excuse that this is a video game to detract from certain requests or suggestions.

    This is a business, the entertainment business which requires customers and investments to exist.

    A business which many families depend (of employees).

    The people who helped from the beginning that the project can move forward deserves due recognition.

    If only there were users who only play free, no risk and no help refine by initial tests, would not exist such games.

    Also it is not about feeling special thanks to recognition.

    This is to give recognition to those who already proved to be.
  • Raash
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    You're all special, thats true, but i am afraid I must inform you that I am slighly more special then the rest of you guys, just saying. Best part is that no one can prove me wrong either.
  • Drasn
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    Raash wrote: »
    You're all special, thats true, but i am afraid I must inform you that I am slighly more special then the rest of you guys, just saying. Best part is that no one can prove me wrong either.

    But me, I'm the most specialist of all. :p
  • Betahkiin
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    Raash wrote: »
    You're all special, thats true, but i am afraid I must inform you that I am slighly more special then the rest of you guys, just saying. Best part is that no one can prove me wrong either.

    True, but the difference between you and others makes us particularly unique in other ways, bringing our unique condition, and makes us still much more special from another perspective.
  • AshySamurai
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    IMO there are two different views on this issue:
    1. New player who want to be able to get all stuff that old players get.
    2. Old player who been here from beta and want to be appreciated for all bug reports, want something that will show that this player here from the beginning.
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  • Zershar_Vemod
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    I came here expecting trolling.

    I left after reading one of the best posts this forum has probably seen in a very, very long time. Very good post OP.
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on March 19, 2015 3:41PM
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  • golfer.dub17_ESO
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    An academic title is based on hard work and accomplishment.

    An exclusive item is given out just for buying the game before others have even heard of it or simply buying it at a specific point in time, in which case no, you don't deserve special recognition for doing so.

    Wanna feel special? Earn a difficult in-game achievement and proudly wear the resulting awards. I.e. do something available to everyone but not everyone will accomplish, something actually worthy of recognition upon accomplishment.

    "Players actively working in da beta r working for the company for free, bla bla" why does everyone always glorify beta players? Was I "working for free" when I played the beta? No, primarily I was happily enjoying the game before everyone else. Give me all the undeserved praise you want for that, I refuse to acknowledge it.

    Do I care if my "earned" (rofl) pre-order or beta bonuses are given out or made available to other people?

    No, I really, really don't.

    TLDR:
    I don't have a problem with legitimate recognition.
    I have a problem with the pretentiousness surrounding pre-orders and other exclusives that are based only on monetary input.
    Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on March 19, 2015 4:01PM
  • Zorvan
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    You are already a unique and special person, just like everyone else.
    I've been muted since November 2017 because of the whiny crybabies on this forum and the liberal ZOS employees coddling them.
  • Betahkiin
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    An academic title is based on hard work and accomplishment.

    An exclusive item is given out just for buying the game before others have even heard of it or simply buying it at a specific point in time, in which case no, you don't deserve special recognition for doing so.

    Wanna feel special? Earn a difficult in-game achievement and proudly wear the resulting awards. I.e. do something available to everyone but not everyone will accomplish, something actually worthy of recognition upon accomplishment.

    "Players actively working in da beta r working for the company for free, bla bla" why does everyone always glorify beta players? Was I "working for free" when I played the beta? No, primarily I was happily enjoying the game before everyone else. Give me all the undeserved praise you want for that, I refuse to acknowledge it.

    Do I care if my "earned" (rofl) pre-order or beta bonuses are given out or made available to other people?

    No, I really, really don't.

    TLDR:
    I don't have a problem with legitimate recognition.
    I have a problem with the pretentiousness surrounding pre-orders and other exclusives that are based only on monetary input.

    Be aware of new projects.

    Be informed of the possibility of participating in a beta.

    Commit to the project by participating actively to bring positive changes to improve the product since its inception.

    Contribute financially to the project when many speculate wait and let others at risk.

    Being an active part of the process of evolution.

    Devote personal time to improve something that will be enjoyed by others who have the ability to do decide to wait comfortably to all this served in tray.

    These and many other actions are worthy of recognition.

    Of course each survey is linked in importance to the achievement obtained.

    A title in a game does not have the importance of an academic title in real life.

    It is a title in a virtual environment according to the merit of being part of a special moment in this virtual environment.

    Nobody is asking for an academic title for his participation in a game.

    What is required is a recognition according to such participation.

    For me, the time investment, trust and money on a project like this deserve recognition.

    The time spent has the same value invested in any other activity in real life, it's personal time and its value does not change.

    The money invested in the project has the same value as the money invested in any other good in real life and make that money costs the same regardless of the purpose for which it is in use.

    Take actions merit to be a entertainment environment does not make sense.


    In short, your one studies for an academic title, invests time, dedication and money and received recognition according to this achievement, a title that can be used in real life and that brings tangible benefits in real life.


    If a person engages in a game, invests time, dedication and money, should gain recognition according to this achievement, a title that can be used in the virtual world and tangible benefits granted recognition in this virtual world.

    Each achievement has adequate, neither more nor less reward.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    All comes down to effort vs reward. If a player feels as though he's just spinning his wheels, he'll bail or at the very least, lose the love he once had for the game.

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  • Betahkiin
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    Zorvan wrote: »
    You are already a unique and special person, just like everyone else.

    Exactly, and in the same way that each one is unique and special in real life, it can also be in a virtual world.

    Allow the existence of rewards that can be achieved by those who reach a certain achievement does not make us neither more nor less special.

    They are simply a present to commemorate having reached this achievement.

    Users who participated in a beta, or invested money are no more special than another, they are just that, people who at one point participated in a beta and choose to trust and provide money for a product.

    What's wrong in recognizing something that is a fact?

    Not better, not worse, just what is and is not.

    A user who does not participate in a beta or never bring extra money is not inferior, it is simply a user who do not belong to a particular time and choose not to contribute financially.

    Not better, not worse.

    What they fail to understand is that if many claim to be self-confident, independent and disinterested against this type of rewards, resent others to appreciate.

    They think that watching another user with a special title makes less important as individuals?

    If you are so sure of themselves should not affect them.

    On the contrary, refusing to acknowledge that there are people that get to do things you could not do, or would not do is force others to not stress over personal achievements.

    In summary, the selfless should not be upset, because it is something they are not interested and may choose not to use it.

    Those who said they were sure of themselves and do not need recognition from anyone, should not bother, can ignore this kind of rewards and let those who want to use them.

    No excuses for being against this type of rewards.

    Unless someone really bother them but have something that you can not access, then, are showing they care and are not sufficiently sure of yourself to ignore.
    Edited by Betahkiin on March 19, 2015 5:35PM
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  • Betahkiin
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    All comes down to effort vs reward. If a player feels as though he's just spinning his wheels, he'll bail or at the very least, lose the love he once had for the game.

    So be rewarded and have fun reaching a goal can not go together?

    I have fun doing something, not detract from the merit of achievements.

    Everyone decides to do something, but regardless of the reason, the achievement is the same.

    Remaining in each decide to do something, and be rewarded or want to be does not exclude the fun and entertainment or love for what you are doing.

    Personally, I will not stop playing the way I do not get a reward, but if I receive in recognition for achieving better.
  • Betahkiin
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    Roechacca wrote: »
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    Then I deserve an achievement!

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    Betahkiin wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
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    Then I deserve an achievement!

    Title: First Forum User forced to jump overboard

    Yes you do . You've attained the infuriate Roechacca achievement with a thread that makes sense but also causes hairloss while reading .
  • Betahkiin
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    Betahkiin wrote: »
    Roechacca wrote: »
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    Then I deserve an achievement!

    Title: First Forum User forced to jump overboard

    Yes you do . You've attained the infuriate Roechacca achievement with a thread that makes sense but also causes hairloss while reading .

    Because of you I broke the keyboard of a blow to the jaw from the attack of laughter that grabbed me.

    Now acquired a new title: Laughter killer
  • Betahkiin
    Betahkiin
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    Again I ask apologize for any errors in my writing, my native language is Spanish and I do my best to try to be understood.
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