Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

Allow me to direct you to this thread where I, despite being primarily a quester who hates grinding, specifically advocate for grind spots to be added to the game so that grinders can get their grind on.

As an EP player, this grind spot needs to be removed right away. We don't have a spot like than in our veteran zones so it is unfair that other alliances have.

only 2 choices here:

Create equally good grind spot for EP players or remove this spot.

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

I care when others exploit and cheat because it affects everyone.

This isn't grinding. It's cheating.

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

It took me 4 days before I found a grinder willing to allow me 2 minutes (the time needed for him to take his bio) to quest through the incessant farming in this spot.

Honestly, if you want to grind your levels, rock on. But, at least extend a little courtesy towards a quester trying to just get through a short quest.

This is false.

There are no quests in the entire game that can be interrupted by a grinder. At worst, the required NPC you have to kill will spawn, and you + grinder hit it. You get credit for the quest objective to proceed with your quest in every case.

If you hate grinding, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

I can't tell you the number of times I saw people actually playing the content in Craglorn get yelled at for "breaking" (fixing) the bugged Thief spawn by doing the quest in that area.

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

It took me 4 days before I found a grinder willing to allow me 2 minutes (the time needed for him to take his bio) to quest through the incessant farming in this spot.

Honestly, if you want to grind your levels, rock on. But, at least extend a little courtesy towards a quester trying to just get through a short quest.

This is false.

There are no quests in the entire game that can be interrupted by a grinder. At worst, the required NPC you have to kill will spawn, and you + grinder hit it. You get credit for the quest objective to proceed with your quest in every case.

If you hate grinding, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

oh yeah? a few patches ago botters used to camp the public dungeons to kill the boss in there over and over, and the people that wanted to kill the boss to complete the dungeon couldnt even lay a single hit on the boss because of the botters

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

It took me 4 days before I found a grinder willing to allow me 2 minutes (the time needed for him to take his bio) to quest through the incessant farming in this spot.

Honestly, if you want to grind your levels, rock on. But, at least extend a little courtesy towards a quester trying to just get through a short quest.

This is false.

There are no quests in the entire game that can be interrupted by a grinder. At worst, the required NPC you have to kill will spawn, and you + grinder hit it. You get credit for the quest objective to proceed with your quest in every case.

If you hate grinding, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

I can't tell you the number of times I saw people actually playing the content in Craglorn get yelled at for "breaking" (fixing) the bugged Thief spawn by doing the quest in that area.

Correct, the QUESTER was screwing the GRINDER. The OPPOSITE is NOT POSSIBLE, however, as I stated.

No one was getting screwed over here. The grinders were not grinding; they were exploiting. They were cheating. And they were whining that they couldn't cheat as effectively because people were actually completing the content in the game.

I simply offer this up as an example of the typical behavior seen in-game.

Govalon wrote: »

As an EP player, this grind spot needs to be removed right away. We don't have a spot like than in our veteran zones so it is unfair that other alliances have.

only 2 choices here:

Create equally good grind spot for EP players or remove this spot.

Yes you do , check the zombies in greenshade :P

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

It took me 4 days before I found a grinder willing to allow me 2 minutes (the time needed for him to take his bio) to quest through the incessant farming in this spot.

Honestly, if you want to grind your levels, rock on. But, at least extend a little courtesy towards a quester trying to just get through a short quest.

This is false.

There are no quests in the entire game that can be interrupted by a grinder. At worst, the required NPC you have to kill will spawn, and you + grinder hit it. You get credit for the quest objective to proceed with your quest in every case.

If you hate grinding, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

This is false.

The specific quest we're talking about here requires you to control a dwemer spider. If the grinders are killing them all before you can control one, then they are preventing you from completing the quest.

If you haven't done all of the quests so you don't know the mechanics of them, fine, say so. But don't falsely accuse people of making stuff up.

This is false.

As soon as the spider takes damage, the "E" action becomes available, and if you click it, you will take control of the spider and it will become non-attackable by the grinder.

If you haven't done all of the quests so you don't know the mechanics of them, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

Doesn't help if they're killing them too fast for you to hit "E" after it's tagged.

Sorry, but you're flat-out wrong. It is possible for grinders to prevent questers from completing their quests. I highly doubt it happens often (it would only be happening with a lot of grinders in the area, and that's only realistically going to happen with bots), but saying that it can't happen is a lie, pure and simple.

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, last time I went there I noticed a couple of players farming the mobs. The spawn quickly, they can be pulled into the middle of the room, they have the potential to drop dwemer scrap, and IIRC they give you normal over-land mob XP rather than the reduced XP that most mobs in delves and dungeons give you.

Edit: of course the problem with grinding in this area is that it interferes with anyone trying to do the quest there. The quest requires you to go after a number of the mobs, and if people are grinding them all, this can be difficult.

Could it be that is why the mobs respawn fast, because it is a questing area.... why do you people even care if others grind, you do your questing and let others do the grinding and stop worrying about it.

If the grinders are preventing me from getting the mobs that I need to do the quest, then I care. If they aren't, then I really don't care.

It took me 4 days before I found a grinder willing to allow me 2 minutes (the time needed for him to take his bio) to quest through the incessant farming in this spot.

Honestly, if you want to grind your levels, rock on. But, at least extend a little courtesy towards a quester trying to just get through a short quest.

This is false.

There are no quests in the entire game that can be interrupted by a grinder. At worst, the required NPC you have to kill will spawn, and you + grinder hit it. You get credit for the quest objective to proceed with your quest in every case.

If you hate grinding, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

This is false.

The specific quest we're talking about here requires you to control a dwemer spider. If the grinders are killing them all before you can control one, then they are preventing you from completing the quest.

If you haven't done all of the quests so you don't know the mechanics of them, fine, say so. But don't falsely accuse people of making stuff up.

This is false.

As soon as the spider takes damage, the "E" action becomes available, and if you click it, you will take control of the spider and it will become non-attackable by the grinder.

If you haven't done all of the quests so you don't know the mechanics of them, fine, say so. But don't make stuff up.

Doesn't help if they're killing them too fast for you to hit "E" after it's tagged.

Sorry, but you're flat-out wrong. It is possible for grinders to prevent questers from completing their quests. I highly doubt it happens often (it would only be happening with a lot of grinders in the area, and that's only realistically going to happen with bots), but saying that it can't happen is a lie, pure and simple.

Not possible.

I went there. I pressed "E". I got control of a spider.

If you are unable to, I would recommend practicing hitting the "E" key more.... o.O

Oh wow, in one specific case you managed to do the quest? Well, that proves it: it's always possible to complete it in every circumstance. Nice try.