Will you keep your subscription?

liquid_wolf · March 2015

You should have made this a poll like the others.

Yes. For now I will be keeping my subscription.

newtinmpls · March 2015

global_gbb16_ESO wrote: »

I have a job, house and a family who waste money like water.

The subscription is equivalent to 3 cups from a premium coffee store - I'm really not interested in ending the sub at this moment.

I look at it as a couple of movies. Err my husband and I both have two accounts so make that a couple of non-matinee 3D Imax movies And to tell the truth I haven't gone to many since we subbed.

I like the idea of supporting the company; all the much more so since the justice system, which made it much more ES to me/us. I hope to support a slow evolution to as good a relation between clients/company as Bethesda has with their peeps. Yes, a long way, but I am an optimist.

Arugaf · March 2015

I would like to continue to pay for subscription but prices has increased twice in Russia. So not. All who I asked about their plans already canceled sub, even if they wanted to keep it earlier.

AshySamurai · March 2015

Arugaf wrote: »

I would like to continue to pay for subscription but prices has increased twice in Russia. So not. All who I asked about their plans already canceled sub, even if they wanted to keep it earlier.

I would like to keep sub, but not with new prices.

Slurg · March 2015

global_gbb16_ESO wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

global_gbb16_ESO wrote: »

I have a job, house and a family who waste money like water.

The subscription is equivalent to 3 cups from a premium coffee store - I'm really not interested in ending the sub at this moment as I now like what I see.

I did cancel it for a month but that was to make a statement due to the hard work of getting to VR11 & VR14 respectively being translated to 30CP but I'm over that now and we ended up getting 70CP.

I fully appreciate everyone is not in the same financial comfort zone as me but I regard the subscription as negligible.

You know, you actually make sense to me. I probably don't need a sub, but the cost is negligible. I may reconsider and just let the benefits there are just be.

Yeah the only time I will re-consider the sub is the next time I get huffy with Zenimax.

I feel that's a really good way to put it so I'll borrow your wording. I'm discontinuing my sub for now because I'm getting huffy with Zenimax about the no new content til after console thing.

ThePonzzz · March 2015

For me, it seems sticking with the subscription is fine. There are some fun things to buy in the crown store, and those things are essentially free with the subscription mindset still in place. The other benefits of ESO Plus don't appeal to me.

10% bonus to experience point gain
10% bonus to crafting research
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain
10% bonus to gold acquisition

Already mastered all crafts. The 10% for research should be 10% less time (unless that's the case, then yippy)! I don't want to cap super quick because end game doesn't interest me all that much. And another 10% gold in a game where there isn't much to buy isn't very interesting.

The DLC is the biggest motivator to sticking around, until we see the cost of those things in the crown store. But since you can keep the rewards/skills you earn from the DLC even if you drop your subscription, it might start losing its appeal over time.

It's a lot of wait and see I guess. The game is still fun. There is a lot of work to be done now that we're in update 6. We need a better player-driven economy. Crafting jewelry would be huge. I'd love to see crafting stations offer bonuses to enchanting and alchemy. I'd like to see some better 9 trait sets. Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood motifs. Still a lot to offer. But we need to offer it.

Elsonso · March 2015

I will pay a subscription and have selected the 180 day option. (Reminder: ZOS: When does the 6 month subscription return?)

I will keep this up for as long as I feel that a subscription is warranted and for as long as it is not canceled out or trivialized by ZeniBeth. If it starts to look like the Crown Store is where they want to get their money from, and they start introducing Pay 2 Win or fill up on cash-before-gameplay/cash-before-lore items, then I will probably drop the subscription. I won't pay for a subscription on top of P2W and I don't want to play in a world filled with over the top bling designed to fill the coffers back at the home office.

I expect that this decision to subscribe will cost me more money than if I dropped the sub and lived off of the crown store, but at this time it is the right decision. For me, the key point is value. I am getting enough from the game, as it is today on Live, to justify a subscription. I am subscribing for what I have today. Tomorrow will sort itself out when it gets here.

Ysne58 · March 2015

My sub is not up until May 30. I will decide then whether to keep on subbing. ZOS needs to improve it's ethics (ie stop saying one thing and then doing the opposite), add the content it announced before announcing the BtP and make changes to the CP system and improve how Cyrodiil works for those who enjoy PvP. Just because I avoid PvP is not an excuse for ZOS to keep failing to fix that.

If ZOS makes progress on these changes I will definitely allow my 180 sub to renew. If it does not, the decision will be much harder for me to justify.

Elridge · March 2015

For me it really depends, if they start to focus too much on the crown store rather then the game itself, then I will probably unsub and just buy things as needed. I like that the subscription fee doesn't push subscribers far ahead with some ridiculous 50% or 100% xp boost, and that is great, but it does feel like something is lacking (for me). I'm not sure what, I don't exactly know what I want out of a subscription in a buy to play game.

On one hand I don't want it to be pay to win or have too many pay gates, on the other hand I'm paying 15$ a month, is what I get worth it to me? If I were willing to buy 1500 crowns monthly sure, but that's not my thing. I generally don't buy many cosmetic things, if I have a costume and mount I like (which I already do) maaaaybe a pet, then I'm good. I'll probably save money just buying DLC when it comes out and crowns as needed. I still have 2 months on my sub, so we will see. I just don't see much of a point in subbing when the purchase is so heavily swayed with the crown store incentive, something I normally don't spend too much in. I wouldn't say it's not worth it, just not worth it to me specifically.

Cbdudek · March 2015

liquid_wolf wrote: »

You should have made this a poll like the others.

Yes. For now I will be keeping my subscription.

I thought about making a poll, but I wanted this to be more of a discussion on the merits of subbing and if people were going to keep their subs or not rather than just clicking a "yes" or "no" button and closing the comments out.

Thanks everyone for your input so far. I think I am going to keep my sub in the short term and then evaluate the game going forward. I can see merits of subbing and dropping the sub, but since I can afford it, I will just sub and see how things go for now. Maybe they will surprise subs with something beneficial down the road.

UrQuan · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

My plan now is to do the following:

-Unsubscribe.
-Sub for 1 month if I want Crowns.
-Sub for 1 month when DLC is released, to try it out.
-Buy DLC as desired.

I'm done with the straight subscription though.

For anyone who doesn't expect that they'll be spending about 1500 crowns/month and who doesn't care about the 10% bonuses from a sub, this is a really excellent plan.

UrQuan · March 2015

Personally I'll be keeping my sub on my main account because it's only a little more expensive to buy the crowns with a sub than it is to buy bulk crown packs, and I know I'll use the crowns on that account anyway. I might as well stay subbed, especially as the 10% bonuses will be handy (although not needed), and I consider the cost to be negligible (if I want to save money there are a lot of other things I could cut down on that would work way better - like maybe not eating out every single lunch time when I'm working).

On my other account, I'm not going to bother subscribing. I really don't see a need, as any cosmetic items I want from the crown store will be things that I want for my main account (with the possible odd exception, but for those exceptions I can just buy some crowns - possibly by just subbing for 1 month), and I play the characters on that account less than the ones on my main account anyway, so the 10% bonuses mean way less on that account.

BigM · March 2015

The sad part is if the store doesn't bring in the money and a lot of people just sub for the 1500 and DLC when needed isn't that money out of the games pocket? If they do not make the cash either of these two ways box sales aren't really going to cover it will it?

Just sad what the MMORPG world is becoming. I hope it works but I have my doubts and think this could really hurt the gender in the future. WoW and FFXIV could be the last of our old MMO days. People are just not going to support the games like they use too.

Of course I could just be too old and it's hard for me to accept the new ways for my favorite games.

Istyar · March 2015

Well, I'd like a lot to sub again, but here in Brazil, $15 are like BLR $50, unfortunately it's virtually impossible to me to keep paying it, it's really a lot of money here. - Remember that Brazil is third world country

- I remember when ZOS said that subs in Brasil would cost BRL R$15, and not 15 Dollars, which would be amazing and I'd sub for sure.

I'll look into the game a little deeper, and if it really deserves maybe I'll cut some spending and try to pay a sub again, but for now, I'll stay unsubbed.

technohic · March 2015

BigM wrote: »

The sad part is if the store doesn't bring in the money and a lot of people just sub for the 1500 and DLC when needed isn't that money out of the games pocket? If they do not make the cash either of these two ways box sales aren't really going to cover it will it?

Just sad what the MMORPG world is becoming. I hope it works but I have my doubts and think this could really hurt the gender in the future. WoW and FFXIV could be the last of our old MMO days. People are just not going to support the games like they use too.

Of course I could just be too old and it's hard for me to accept the new ways for my favorite games.

I don't find this sad at all. It puts the pressure on ZOS to provide enough items and DLC to keep the money coming in rather than with a sub only model, people are paying just for access with no real pressure for new content other than to maintain those subs. You also can get more exposure to people who are less willing to pay monthly even if it is cheap and at least give them a chance to have a nice healthy love/hate relationship with it.

I just hope the console is a huge success to pay off what appears to be a planned slow period while they focus on its launch. Although being a PvPer, I am thinking I am seeing better news now than I did prior to 2.0 so your mileage may vary.

Lord_Kreegan · March 2015

I'm old and retired.

Much too old (and too wise) to chase younger women (they're all younger) and wouldn't know what to do with them if I caught them (the price of senility; I can't remember what they're good for); they're a lot more expensive than a subscription.

Don't have the reflexes any more to handle fast cars; they're too damn expensive, too. My first Camaro, years ago, cost $3800 and was a damn sight faster, sportier, and more comfortable than the plastic crates people are driving nowadays... but that was a lot more than a subscription, too. More than ten times as much nowadays...

So, if I can't have fast cars and younger women (or younger cars and fast women), what am I going to do in my retirement to kill time?

As long as I continue to enjoy the game; even with all of its bugs, warts, and questionable design decisions; I'll continue to pay a sub... even if there's no real reason to do so. Every time that $15.00 hits my credit card I'll be reminded to stay away from fast cars and younger women...

Gidorick · March 2015

SweetRoll wrote: »

I don't see why people keep posting about this. It is not difficult...if the money is that important to you (for whatever reason), then unsubscribe and buy DLCs as needed. If money is not an issue and/or you plan to use the crown store, then stay subbed.

Getting others to validate / invalidate your personal decision is a waste of time.

For many of us it's more about the principal and not about the money. I speak with my wallet. I'lI buy a game on the first day it comes out, well aware that by the time I get around to playing it the game will likely be cheaper. Why? Because I want support the brand/franchise/developer. I don't buy used games and I will NOT buy a game if I don't support the franchise or developer for some reason.

This is why some of us are having this discussion.

Tabkey · March 2015

I've already slapped 240 days worth of time-cards onto the account. Both in part to get the senche(I had stopped playing for two months, and dangit I wanted the kitty!), and to basically fill out the rest of the year with ESO+ time. I've got other MMO's on the backburner, but at the same time.. something about ESO still draws me back. Can't quite put my finger on it, as I mostly just *** around in the starter towns helping out new folk.

My general philosophy once a game goes into the F2P/B2P bin, I throw at most two months worth of time at it. First month is usually a whirlwind of things, while the second month the dust starts to settle.

BigM · March 2015

technohic wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

The sad part is if the store doesn't bring in the money and a lot of people just sub for the 1500 and DLC when needed isn't that money out of the games pocket? If they do not make the cash either of these two ways box sales aren't really going to cover it will it?

Just sad what the MMORPG world is becoming. I hope it works but I have my doubts and think this could really hurt the gender in the future. WoW and FFXIV could be the last of our old MMO days. People are just not going to support the games like they use too.

Of course I could just be too old and it's hard for me to accept the new ways for my favorite games.

I don't find this sad at all. It puts the pressure on ZOS to provide enough items and DLC to keep the money coming in rather than with a sub only model, people are paying just for access with no real pressure for new content other than to maintain those subs. You also can get more exposure to people who are less willing to pay monthly even if it is cheap and at least give them a chance to have a nice healthy love/hate relationship with it.

I just hope the console is a huge success to pay off what appears to be a planned slow period while they focus on its launch. Although being a PvPer, I am thinking I am seeing better news now than I did prior to 2.0 so your mileage may vary.

Just remember consoles won't help keep the PC servers running, they will need to cover the consoles support and servers. It is possible even though I doubt it the game could close if not doing that well on the PC side and just keep consoles. Only time will tell.

UrQuan · March 2015

Lord_Kreegan wrote: »

I'm old and retired.

Much too old (and too wise) to chase younger women (they're all younger) and wouldn't know what to do with them if I caught them (the price of senility; I can't remember what they're good for); they're a lot more expensive than a subscription.

Don't have the reflexes any more to handle fast cars; they're too damn expensive, too. My first Camaro, years ago, cost $3800 and was a damn sight faster, sportier, and more comfortable than the plastic crates people are driving nowadays... but that was a lot more than a subscription, too. More than ten times as much nowadays...

So, if I can't have fast cars and younger women (or younger cars and fast women), what am I going to do in my retirement to kill time?

As long as I continue to enjoy the game; even with all of its bugs, warts, and questionable design decisions; I'll continue to pay a sub... even if there's no real reason to do so. Every time that $15.00 hits my credit card I'll be reminded to stay away from fast cars and younger women...

I love every part of this post.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2015

Im going to stop paying and do the buy the dlc as it comes out. I think that will be cheaper.

Valmond · March 2015

i'll sub for a month.
if nothing is not done to lag in that time, or no message about it is given, i'll unsub and see how it goes from there.

Lauradana · March 2015

I have been a paying beta tester long enough thank you very much and I do not intend to reward the lies that have been fed to us by giving them money on top. The major lag the crashes ect ect have only gotten worse and untill I see some real work from ZOS my money stays in my wallet.

cyqa · March 2015

I'm sad to hear the sub price has increased twice in Russia. Is there a reason for that? Has it increased in any other region

Anyway, I will probably continue paying my sub as long as I'm regularly playing the game.

UrQuan · March 2015

cyqa wrote: »

I'm sad to hear the sub price has increased twice in Russia. Is there a reason for that? Has it increased in any other region

In some countries (Canada and Russia for sure, maybe others) the sub price in the local currency has gone up, but only in line with the exchange rate. In Russia the price in rubles basically doubled, but that's because the ruble has tanked and is worth half what it was worth at ESO launch. If you look at the exchange rate, the current sub price in rubles is the equivalent of about $15 USD.

Alexium · March 2015

Arugaf wrote: »

I would like to continue to pay for subscription but prices has increased twice in Russia. So not. All who I asked about their plans already canceled sub, even if they wanted to keep it earlier.

Same here...

Mercurio · March 2015

not a chance

Alexium · March 2015

cyqa wrote: »

I'm sad to hear the sub price has increased twice in Russia. Is there a reason for that? Has it increased in any other region

Anyway, I will probably continue paying my sub as long as I'm regularly playing the game.

Reason? Currency exchange or what is name of it. Cost of the dollar and euro increased 2x for us. ZOS trying save their profit increasing subs and game prices, but it is wrong tactics.

Gix · March 2015

Cbdudek wrote: »

To those who are going to drop their sub...

What would Zenimax have to offer you to keep the sub now that the game is B2P? More bonuses for XP, gold, crafting, etc?

I pay for content. Since content will be sold in individual packages, there's absolutely no reason for me to pay for stuff I don't care for.

The only thing that would keep me subscribed is if they manage to release new content every 1-3months. Only then does having an automated payment process become convenient and worth the extra $.

charley222 · March 2015

already cancel , i see any reason to keep my sub after this 1 year of beta nightmare , and they give us only 100 for each month

and now is 1500 every month any sence there ,
also the crowns store fail for me because any cosmetic gear only costume ,
and most of the mounts are again horse ,
the store have any new class(necromacer) or any race or any new game Game Content and any new crating style book
so it all useless for me ,thank you