*ain't riding no danged cat no matter when it shows up*

Horses can be ornery.....


But cats are certainly worse....

Mikoto wrote: »

ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february

And the exact quote made by Matt

Loyalty Rewards

We have two more loyalty rewards to give out before Tamriel Unlimited launches in March. The first is the nine-month reward, and for this one we're channeling the chaos of Sheogorath, everyone's favorite deranged Daedric Prince. Behold: the Mask of Cheerful Slaughter, a unique costume which will be given to all ESO players who have subscribed for nine months between April 2014 and the Tamriel Unlimited launch in March 2015.

Key word, Before Tamriel Unlimited launch.
There is Zenimax own statement. and your link Gina.

There's no senche in that sentence. It said the MASK will be given between April and TU launch.

We have two more loyalty rewards to give out before Tamriel Unlimited launches in March.

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

The second they listened to the community and changed the eligibility criteria for the senche mount it became, at best, extremely problematic to even attempt to deliver it prior to the switch to TU. It would have been very stupid of ZOS to try to do that.

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

I take exception to this : this is not a "free gift" done out of the kindness of their hearts, LOL. It was a dangled carrot to keep us subscribing through the F2P transition, which many of us would not have done otherwise. In effect, it is the reward for spending the 15 dollars for a partial month prior to unlimited launch.

It cost us 15.00.

As soon as i know I'm getting the mount (they did not answer that question before they deleted my post for slanderous rumor-mongering) I am cancelling my subscription.

I, as well as many, would have skipped out on the privilege of playing the game for 2 or 3 weeks prior to unlimited launch if that were not the case.

mounts are content, BTW, and after a year we've finally gotten the first of that particular content - at F2P launch.

I wonder if unsubbing now, does affect the loyalty reward. In about two weeks the next bill is due and I actually wanted to go F2P as soon the tiger arrives.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

YOU personally said it in Friday's Live Stream. If you can't remember what you said then why should I bother to watch the Stream again and link it here just to point it out to you.

We said the Senche mount would be released this week at 7:34 here: https://youtu.be/uIoYXYZBk_0

Bahahah #rekt

And what about this statement back in Feb.?

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february

At no point does that article say that the mounts would be distributed prior to (or at) the launch of TU.

It very clearly says both will be given out before the relaunch.

Please copy and paste the part of the article where it says that. Because I'm not seeing it.

Mercurio wrote: »

I take exception to this : this is not a "free gift" done out of the kindness of their hearts, LOL. It was a dangled carrot to keep us subscribing through the F2P transition, which many of us would not have done otherwise. In effect, it is the reward for spending the 15 dollars for a partial month prior to unlimited launch.

It cost us 15.00.

As soon as i know I'm getting the mount (they did not answer that question before they deleted my post for slanderous rumor-mongering) I am cancelling my subscription.

I, as well as many, would have skipped out on the privilege of playing the game for 2 or 3 weeks prior to unlimited launch if that were not the case.

mounts are content, BTW, and after a year we've finally gotten the first of that particular content - at F2P launch.

Ok, first of all it's a free gift, they don't owe us anything. It is indeed a loyalty reward, if you played the game and stayed with it and played it for the whole 11 months, you wouldn't need to subscribe for any additional time just to qualify for this mount. If you subscribed for additional months to the game via the site or bought game time cards to fill in the cap, then that was your choice.

So calling it "not a free gift" is quite a lot of bull****.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

YOU personally said it in Friday's Live Stream. If you can't remember what you said then why should I bother to watch the Stream again and link it here just to point it out to you.

We said the Senche mount would be released this week at 7:34 here: https://youtu.be/uIoYXYZBk_0

Bahahah #rekt

And what about this statement back in Feb.?

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february

At no point does that article say that the mounts would be distributed prior to (or at) the launch of TU.

It very clearly says both will be given out before the relaunch.

Please copy and paste the part of the article where it says that. Because I'm not seeing it.

Its the first sentence under loyalty rewards...

That doesn't say they'd be distributing them prior to the launch, just that these were the last rewards to be accrued prior to TU. At no point does it give an actual date. Indeed, it would be absolutely ridiculous to expect the mount to be given out prior to yesterday, since that's when they actually had to calculate your game time.

So the whole thing about how they will give them out before the march relaunch means what?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

YOU personally said it in Friday's Live Stream. If you can't remember what you said then why should I bother to watch the Stream again and link it here just to point it out to you.

We said the Senche mount would be released this week at 7:34 here: https://youtu.be/uIoYXYZBk_0

Bahahah #rekt

And what about this statement back in Feb.?

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february

At no point does that article say that the mounts would be distributed prior to (or at) the launch of TU.

It very clearly says both will be given out before the relaunch.

Please copy and paste the part of the article where it says that. Because I'm not seeing it.

Its the first sentence under loyalty rewards...

That doesn't say they'd be distributing them prior to the launch, just that these were the last rewards to be accrued prior to TU. At no point does it give an actual date. Indeed, it would be absolutely ridiculous to expect the mount to be given out prior to yesterday, since that's when they actually had to calculate your game time.

So the whole thing about how they will give them out before the march relaunch means what?

They said they have two more loyalty rewards to give out before the relaunch. That didn't mean that they were literally giving them out on a specific day prior to launch. It meant that they had two more rewards that could be earned before then.

Honestly, take a second and think about this. How would they have possibly been able to award the senche mount before today? They didn't actually get the full data about who could qualify for the reward until last night.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

YOU personally said it in Friday's Live Stream. If you can't remember what you said then why should I bother to watch the Stream again and link it here just to point it out to you.

We said the Senche mount would be released this week at 7:34 here: https://youtu.be/uIoYXYZBk_0

Bahahah #rekt

And what about this statement back in Feb.?

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/02/12/the-road-ahead---february

At no point does that article say that the mounts would be distributed prior to (or at) the launch of TU.

It very clearly says both will be given out before the relaunch.

Please copy and paste the part of the article where it says that. Because I'm not seeing it.

Its the first sentence under loyalty rewards...

That doesn't say they'd be distributing them prior to the launch, just that these were the last rewards to be accrued prior to TU. At no point does it give an actual date. Indeed, it would be absolutely ridiculous to expect the mount to be given out prior to yesterday, since that's when they actually had to calculate your game time.

So the whole thing about how they will give them out before the march relaunch means what?

They said they have two more loyalty rewards to give out before the relaunch. That didn't mean that they were literally giving them out on a specific day prior to launch. It meant that they had two more rewards that could be earned before then.

Honestly, take a second and think about this. How would they have possibly been able to award the senche mount before today? They didn't actually get the full data about who could qualify for the reward until last night.

Oh I see. So they said they would give them out but that didnt mean they would really give them out. Gotcha.

Well, I guess you're right. So clearly you should have your cat now.

What does that solve, exactly?

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

1. Gina asked for a link to where it said that the Senche Mounts would be out to players before the Unlimited Launch.
I provided that link. So far Gina has refused to acknowledge the fact that it was stated before launch of unlimited.

2. It was mentioned in the German Forums that the Senche was being delayed.
It was never said in the other forums though. It should have been posted in each language forum. That's just basic respect.

3. I could care less if it was delayed or not. But if it is said that something will be done, given, ect., by a specific time or date, then stick to that date or time.
If they cannot keep the date or time mentioned, then be respectful and let people know in a timely manner. That don't mean 8 or 10 hrs after the due date or time.

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

1. The link that you provided was from over a month ago. Since that time, they changed the policy so that those who didn't quite have enough time would be able to still get the mount by subscribing for the remaining months... which is silly, I think, especially because they've confirmed that different varieties of Senche mounts would be available in the Crown Store.

2. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the forums, but it was mentioned during the last couple of ESO Live shows. If you aren't watching them, one of ZOS' key forms of communication, you can't get mad for not being in the know. It would have been nice if it was mentioned in the forums, but with 1.6 and the massive amount of patch notes, it's easy to see how something like that could have been lost in everything.

3. They told people on the ESO Live show that it would be coming out sometime this week on Friday, so it wasn't really last minute. Again, you should watch the show lol.

Regardless, I just don't see the point of nitpicking the specific date when it is a matter of a couple of days that you'll have to wait. I understand the "principle" argument, but, again, you can't use that if you didn't tune into their bi-weekly broadcast communication show lol.

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

1. Gina asked for a link to where it said that the Senche Mounts would be out to players before the Unlimited Launch.
I provided that link. So far Gina has refused to acknowledge the fact that it was stated before launch of unlimited.

2. It was mentioned in the German Forums that the Senche was being delayed.
It was never said in the other forums though. It should have been posted in each language forum. That's just basic respect.

3. I could care less if it was delayed or not. But if it is said that something will be done, given, ect., by a specific time or date, then stick to that date or time.
If they cannot keep the date or time mentioned, then be respectful and let people know in a timely manner. That don't mean 8 or 10 hrs after the due date or time.

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

1. The link that you provided was from over a month ago. Since that time, they changed the policy so that those who didn't quite have enough time would be able to still get the mount by subscribing for the remaining months... which is silly, I think, especially because they've confirmed that different varieties of Senche mounts would be available in the Crown Store.

2. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the forums, but it was mentioned during the last couple of ESO Live shows. If you aren't watching them, one of ZOS' key forms of communication, you can't get mad for not being in the know. It would have been nice if it was mentioned in the forums, but with 1.6 and the massive amount of patch notes, it's easy to see how something like that could have been lost in everything.

3. They told people on the ESO Live show that it would be coming out sometime this week on Friday, so it wasn't really last minute. Again, you should watch the show lol.

Regardless, I just don't see the point of nitpicking the specific date when it is a matter of a couple of days that you'll have to wait. I understand the "principle" argument, but, again, you can't use that if you didn't tune into their bi-weekly broadcast communication show lol.

I think the main thing is they keep telling us one thing then doing another. People are fed up. It isnt just the loyalty rewards. They have consistently given out false information they KNEW was false then changed it up later.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

1. Gina asked for a link to where it said that the Senche Mounts would be out to players before the Unlimited Launch.
I provided that link. So far Gina has refused to acknowledge the fact that it was stated before launch of unlimited.

2. It was mentioned in the German Forums that the Senche was being delayed.
It was never said in the other forums though. It should have been posted in each language forum. That's just basic respect.

3. I could care less if it was delayed or not. But if it is said that something will be done, given, ect., by a specific time or date, then stick to that date or time.
If they cannot keep the date or time mentioned, then be respectful and let people know in a timely manner. That don't mean 8 or 10 hrs after the due date or time.

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

1. The link that you provided was from over a month ago. Since that time, they changed the policy so that those who didn't quite have enough time would be able to still get the mount by subscribing for the remaining months... which is silly, I think, especially because they've confirmed that different varieties of Senche mounts would be available in the Crown Store.

2. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the forums, but it was mentioned during the last couple of ESO Live shows. If you aren't watching them, one of ZOS' key forms of communication, you can't get mad for not being in the know. It would have been nice if it was mentioned in the forums, but with 1.6 and the massive amount of patch notes, it's easy to see how something like that could have been lost in everything.

3. They told people on the ESO Live show that it would be coming out sometime this week on Friday, so it wasn't really last minute. Again, you should watch the show lol.

Regardless, I just don't see the point of nitpicking the specific date when it is a matter of a couple of days that you'll have to wait. I understand the "principle" argument, but, again, you can't use that if you didn't tune into their bi-weekly broadcast communication show lol.

I think the main thing is they keep telling us one thing then doing another. People are fed up. It isnt just the loyalty rewards. They have consistently given out false information they KNEW was false then changed it up later.

I think that people have too much time on their hands lol. It's a big company with a lot of moving parts. Things change. I don't believe that they've been purposefully deceiving the community. If people are that upset about it then they should just leave. That's the nature of game development, in general.

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

1. Gina asked for a link to where it said that the Senche Mounts would be out to players before the Unlimited Launch.
I provided that link. So far Gina has refused to acknowledge the fact that it was stated before launch of unlimited.

2. It was mentioned in the German Forums that the Senche was being delayed.
It was never said in the other forums though. It should have been posted in each language forum. That's just basic respect.

3. I could care less if it was delayed or not. But if it is said that something will be done, given, ect., by a specific time or date, then stick to that date or time.
If they cannot keep the date or time mentioned, then be respectful and let people know in a timely manner. That don't mean 8 or 10 hrs after the due date or time.

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

1. The link that you provided was from over a month ago. Since that time, they changed the policy so that those who didn't quite have enough time would be able to still get the mount by subscribing for the remaining months... which is silly, I think, especially because they've confirmed that different varieties of Senche mounts would be available in the Crown Store.

2. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the forums, but it was mentioned during the last couple of ESO Live shows. If you aren't watching them, one of ZOS' key forms of communication, you can't get mad for not being in the know. It would have been nice if it was mentioned in the forums, but with 1.6 and the massive amount of patch notes, it's easy to see how something like that could have been lost in everything.

3. They told people on the ESO Live show that it would be coming out sometime this week on Friday, so it wasn't really last minute. Again, you should watch the show lol.

Regardless, I just don't see the point of nitpicking the specific date when it is a matter of a couple of days that you'll have to wait. I understand the "principle" argument, but, again, you can't use that if you didn't tune into their bi-weekly broadcast communication show lol.

I think the main thing is they keep telling us one thing then doing another. People are fed up. It isnt just the loyalty rewards. They have consistently given out false information they KNEW was false then changed it up later.

I think that people have too much time on their hands lol. It's a big company with a lot of moving parts. Things change. I don't believe that they've been purposefully deceiving the community. If people are that upset about it then they should just leave. That's the nature of game development, in general.

Also, your quote by Gina is a little misleading. Sure, you can play as any race in any alliance by purchasing that through the Crown Store, but you can't purchase the Imperial Race.

Actually you can. Just upgrade the game to Imperial Edition, and you will have one.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

jwboudreau1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ugh, I'm so sick of this attitude: "Where is MY Senche mount?"

It's a loyalty reward, dear god. It's a free gift from the development team that doesn't have to happen. If you get it in a month, who cares? It's free. You pay to access the game. It's not charity money that you're giving to ZOS because you want to; you're giving the money to ZOS because you want to play their product. The only thing that they owe us is continued maintenance and content because that is what we're paying for.

1. Gina asked for a link to where it said that the Senche Mounts would be out to players before the Unlimited Launch.
I provided that link. So far Gina has refused to acknowledge the fact that it was stated before launch of unlimited.

2. It was mentioned in the German Forums that the Senche was being delayed.
It was never said in the other forums though. It should have been posted in each language forum. That's just basic respect.

3. I could care less if it was delayed or not. But if it is said that something will be done, given, ect., by a specific time or date, then stick to that date or time.
If they cannot keep the date or time mentioned, then be respectful and let people know in a timely manner. That don't mean 8 or 10 hrs after the due date or time.

People know things get delayed, and have no issue with that as long as you made every attempt to honor that date or time and give notice if there will be a delay.

1. The link that you provided was from over a month ago. Since that time, they changed the policy so that those who didn't quite have enough time would be able to still get the mount by subscribing for the remaining months... which is silly, I think, especially because they've confirmed that different varieties of Senche mounts would be available in the Crown Store.

2. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the forums, but it was mentioned during the last couple of ESO Live shows. If you aren't watching them, one of ZOS' key forms of communication, you can't get mad for not being in the know. It would have been nice if it was mentioned in the forums, but with 1.6 and the massive amount of patch notes, it's easy to see how something like that could have been lost in everything.

3. They told people on the ESO Live show that it would be coming out sometime this week on Friday, so it wasn't really last minute. Again, you should watch the show lol.

Regardless, I just don't see the point of nitpicking the specific date when it is a matter of a couple of days that you'll have to wait. I understand the "principle" argument, but, again, you can't use that if you didn't tune into their bi-weekly broadcast communication show lol.

I think the main thing is they keep telling us one thing then doing another. People are fed up. It isnt just the loyalty rewards. They have consistently given out false information they KNEW was false then changed it up later.

I think that people have too much time on their hands lol. It's a big company with a lot of moving parts. Things change. I don't believe that they've been purposefully deceiving the community. If people are that upset about it then they should just leave. That's the nature of game development, in general.

Also, your quote by Gina is a little misleading. Sure, you can play as any race in any alliance by purchasing that through the Crown Store, but you can't purchase the Imperial Race.

The explorer pack didnt include imperial race. It had maps, a crab pet and the play any alliance any race deal.

Lol I know. I edited it afterward. You were too fast for me, I guess. I forgot that there were several different versions that came out.