ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

The fact is they have had months to get the Senche Mounts ready for release, prior to Unlimited release as they had said. So there is no reason that the Senche wasn't given out by yesterday.

Opinions are opinions. I choose to have one that takes into account what a rocky road its been up until now and how many things have changed in the background.

Also, with the big sub boom and people racing to get extra sub time to qualify for it there has been alot of last minute arrivals.

So if its ok with you, I'll stick with my own perspective on it

Zhoyzu wrote: »

I cant seem to find mine.


Are they not given out yet or did i get shafted.

The shipment of senches that were supposed to be delivered to the Crown Store got ambushed by Worm Cultists. A lone hero is being dispatched now to retrieve them. Several NPC's told him that they would go with him, but they need to stay behind and deal with something else.

Missing Senche....missing Moon Sugar....the connection is obvious... the senche are sleeping off a bad case of 'Sugar Bellies" !!! I'm sure they will show up once it wears off

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

RainfeatherUK wrote: »

From my perspective (and that of past history) they want to take their time with the senche release and make sure everything is handled smoothly.

If they rush we will potentially see allocation mistakes, with accounts due a mount not receiving them and ones that arent, recieving them by mistake.

I'd rather we went with patience tbh. That way there is less heartache for us and them, which can only be a good thing; in a time period thats fairly crucial for the games longevity/ future.

The fact is they have had months to get the Senche Mounts ready for release, prior to Unlimited release as they had said. So there is no reason that the Senche wasn't given out by yesterday.

There's a very big reason why they shouldn't have been given out yesterday.

First off, as this is a one-time thing rather than a "send it out when people qualify" thing like previous loyalty rewards, it makes the most sense to wait for the last possible day when people can become eligible to get it in order to determine eligibility for everyone. That way, you only have to do the work of identifying who is and isn't eligible once.

So doing anything before the final day on which people could pay for game time and still be eligible would have been stupid of ZOS.

Second, once the final minute has passed in which it was possible for people to pay for game time, then you need to run a query from their account/billing database to find out who is and who isn't eligible. If their database is anything like most databases, you don't want to run big queries off the live DB as it will have a significant negative effect on performance (in severe cases it could cause crashes, or it could cause transactions on live to fail as records are locked by the query). So what you typically do is wait for the daily load to the data warehouse (or to a copy of the production account/billing DB if they don't have a data warehouse, but I'd be very surprised if they don't have a DW), and then when that is complete you run a query from there.

Third, once you have identified all of the eligible accounts, then you run a script to unlock the senche mount for those accounts. I don't know how they script these things, so I don't know what the process would be for this part of it. As such, I can't say whether there's some reason this step would take more than a few minutes, or if it would be more or less instantaneously.

So yeah, anyone who has worked in IT for a large company that deals with promotions & eligibility (in my case I work in IT for a credit union, so I'm comparing this to how we would have to accomplish something similar in retail banking) will know that it would have made no sense for them to give out the senche when you wanted it.

Mercurio wrote: »

the point is : if they give out the new free mount right away, not as many will buy the new cash shops mounts on day one, after they've been waiting since launch for something different. That's literally all it is. If ZOS wanted us to have our mounts, we would have them. This has been a really cynical and desperate don't-drop-your-subscription carrot.

so when can I cancel my subscription? If I do it today, do I still get my senche mount (whenever they decide to send it)? Inquiring minds want to know.

bingo.

This one also noticed the cash shop potions are actually better than the equivalent crafted ones. I say equivalent because most of the flavors we like do not come in cash shop version but, for simple 1 resource restore, the cash shop ones are of greater magnitude. They are most certainly not, as was previously stated, the same as trash drop potions.

Also, am I mistaken is it almost $1.00 for a soul gem in the cash shop. Is this a mistake or has somebody been hitting the skooma?

Pallmor wrote: »

My favorite was the one guy in the Ebonheart Pact (I think he was one of Jorunn's lieutenants) who you find wounded on his farm with a hurt arm (in Eastmarch or the Rift, I think). He wants you to go kill some giant who overran his farm blah-blah-blah. And he *would* go with you and all--but, you know, he can't because his arm is soooo hurt. So I kill the giant with no help from him of course, get my reward, and head back to the military camp--where he is standing, not hurt at all. lol

Haha theres tonnes of those kind of guys around. Its like the world wouldnt function without you to do their dirty work lol.

Like the guy in the Auridon Marines, he wants you to save his son because well..you know hes too old and his sword arm aint what it used to be.. except hes in an elite unit in full heavy armor lmao.

Then when I come back that arms feeling miraculously better and hes ready to dispense some whoopass of his own (now that scary creatures have been dispensed by little girl with stick ofc).

Its all good fun but makes me laugh at the screen lol. This game actually makes me talk at the screen alot...oh dear haha.

Lol I rescued a guy, he helpes me for like a minute and then is like 'thats all folks im going back to my unit!' Guess being in squads with me is that awful, its more of a test of fortitude than a fun trip out lol -.-

That said PvE is too easy for me to warrant much help questing. I do it anyway ofcourse, questing with friends is fun but NPC help is just overkill really.

JDar wrote: »

Where's my elephant?

Where's my elephant?

Where's my elephant?

Hey, they're playing the elephant song again!

stevenbennett_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

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Second, once the final minute has passed in which it was possible for people to pay for game time, then you need to run a query from their account/billing database to find out who is and who isn't eligible. If their database is anything like most databases, you don't want to run big queries off the live DB as it will have a significant negative effect on performance (in severe cases it could cause crashes, or it could cause transactions on live to fail as records are locked by the query). So what you typically do is wait for the daily load to the data warehouse (or to a copy of the production account/billing DB if they don't have a data warehouse, but I'd be very surprised if they don't have a DW), and then when that is complete you run a query from there.

Third, once you have identified all of the eligible accounts, then you run a script to unlock the senche mount for those accounts. I don't know how they script these things, so I don't know what the process would be for this part of it. As such, I can't say whether there's some reason this step would take more than a few minutes, or if it would be more or less instantaneously.
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Fairly accurate analysis, but you forget that the unlock for the senche mount isn't just setting a flag in the live DB -- it's quite likely that adding the senche mount to your collections is probably multiple DB requests per account, *plus* the generation of a mail record to that user to indicate they've received it. Since all of this has to run on the live servers, and you don't want to kill those servers with a huge influx of DB requests, you severely rate-limit the script so it either does the job in batches, or at a continuous slow rate of speed.

In the past, when they've sent out loyalty rewards during a non-maintenance timeframe, i seem to recall it has sometimes taken hours to over a day for everyone who qualifies to receive their reward once they've started the process, so I would expect much the same to happen in this case.

Well, I didn't forget that part of it so much as I didn't really know anything about how they might have set that up, so I didn't want to speculate too much about what it might entail

I expect that you're probably right about that aspect of the process, though - especially on the note that you'd want to rate-limit the script that does it in order to avoid server load issues. Or do it during a maintenance period I guess.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

I haven't even got the mask yet, but I did get 12500 crowns which was nice.

one of those effed up ways "loyalty" is shown. players who pre-bought game time to get the mount created for the *longest subscribers*...get the mount and more crowns than said long term subscribers. That in itself says everything you need to know about the future of ESO really.

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

YOU personally said it in Friday's Live Stream. If you can't remember what you said then why should I bother to watch the Stream again and link it here just to point it out to you.

We said the Senche mount would be released this week at 7:34 here: https://youtu.be/uIoYXYZBk_0

Bahahah #rekt

that should be #GOT_REKT!

UrQuan wrote: »

Well, I didn't forget that part of it so much as I didn't really know anything about how they might have set that up, so I didn't want to speculate too much about what it might entail

Just had to respond to say that this line is awesome. So much speculation around the forums, and so little knowledge- and it's great to see that someone else realizes that, and not speculate.

ninpo.ericub17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Yup Gina said in the Live stream we'd get them today, and nobody bothered to tell NA on these forums that they decided not to do it today, instead we found out from the GERMAN FORUMS, ZoS logic.

We may have said the cutoff for eligibility is today, or that it would be coming out this week, but never said the Senche mount would be released today. Do you have a link where you originally heard this?

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Actually Gina I heard the same thing. It was on the live stream. I heard the 17th was the date from that stream. If you have a recording watch it and I'm sure you will understand where we all got it.

You mean like the recording of the live stream that she posted in this thread, where she gave the time stamp of when she talked about the Senche mount? The one where she said "next week" and not the 17th? That one?

ebunts14_ESO wrote: »

Qyrk wrote: »

Honestly, in the scheme of things, what is one or two days delay in getting our mounts. If they never give it, that's a whole another story. But there's far more important things to discuss than receiving a mount that we will get in a few days.

Chill

The point is that Zenimax promised that we would receive the Senche Mount before the Launch of Tamriel Unlimited. I know things are different in the world these days and people interpret things how they want rather than what they say. I am one that if you say you will do something by a certain date, then that is your word and you do it. Otherwise your word means nothing.

The point is: who gives a fark. The mouthpiece misremembered an exact date. I hate it when everyone suddenly becomes a lawyer.

"Where were you that night, sir?!? Did you, or did you NOT, say we'd get the mounts PRIOR to the release of the new version of the game?"

I mean, just ride your other horse for another day or two.

In a year, what will it matter?

Kromwell63 wrote: »

Missing Senche....missing Moon Sugar....the connection is obvious... the senche are sleeping off a bad case of 'Sugar Bellies" !!! I'm sure they will show up once it wears off

Kitty thinks this is plausible. She has been missing her Moons Sugar treats something fierce.