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Resilient Passive in the Lady constellation

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I tried the Resilient passive in the Lady to see if there was an error in the tooltip, that basically says that it heals you for 187 hp when you take a critical hit.
in cyrodiil, it healed me for 159 hp, with the battle spirit "buff".

Does anybody else think that this seems like a very crappy passive for a 30 champion point investment ?
with Health Pool being at least 10k, and critical hits as high as 15k+ damage, 150 hp seems very low.
maybe it scales off total health, but still.

  • aco5712
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    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison
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  • Atreyu
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    see the bright side.

    it's a champion passive, if it sucks...it sucks for everyone.
    Edited by Atreyu on March 15, 2015 6:20AM
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  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    HiP wrote: »
    I tried the Resilient passive in the Lady to see if there was an error in the tooltip, that basically says that it heals you for 187 hp when you take a critical hit.
    in cyrodiil, it healed me for 159 hp, with the battle spirit "buff".

    Does anybody else think that this seems like a very crappy passive for a 30 champion point investment ?
    with Health Pool being at least 10k, and critical hits as high as 15k+ damage, 150 hp seems very low.
    maybe it scales off total health, but still.

    The value might be lower in PvP because every healing/shielding powers are 15% less effective in Cyrodiil, so that might explain why the talent doesn't heal the amount shown on the tooltip.
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on March 15, 2015 9:12AM
  • HiP
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.
    The value might be lower in PvP because every healing/shielding powers are 15% less effective in Cyrodiil, so that might explain why the talent doesn't heal the amount shown on the tooltip.

    i know that, i said it in my first post :) battle spirit "buff"
    the value itself, even on the tooltip, is ridiculous compared to your HP pool and the huge damage we take now in 1.6
    maybe the value was meant for 1.5 and before ? :smiley:
  • Hutuldur
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    Not all crits are 10k hits though. Doesn't it proc on crits that caltrops and DOTs do? For me it sounds like it would help nicely when you get plenty of small crits.
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    Its a good anti-crit ability. Even if the average crit is 5k, that 200 point heal is 4% less damage per crit
  • aco5712
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    HiP wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.

    You still take critical hits when you Block. Crystal frag cries might be 10 or 15 but that's just a rare example. Light attacks and dots will proc it and those don't do nearly that damage. Mobs do critical since 1.6.
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  • Skafsgaard
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    Sounds ok for PvP tanking. It's not only legendary geared sorc spamming their frags - there're vr3's with dual wield etc too and lots and lots of small ticks (dots), magicla, phyiscal dots all over - but I forgot now, is there a CD on the proc or is it EVERY crit? If no CD on the proc and you have around 32k health I think it's a nice little passive heal imo - but maybe not for solo, but for the usual DK tank bait 'n play with some snipers and sorcs around to make the take downs... dunno
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  • Mantic0r3
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    HiP wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.
    Mobs do critical since 1.6.

    no they dont, stop spreading those silly rumors

    @topic as many others have said its a nice passive heal since it procs from any kind of crit, there are some way worse passives out there^^

  • aco5712
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    Mantic0r3 wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    HiP wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.
    Mobs do critical since 1.6.

    no they dont, stop spreading those silly rumors

    @topic as many others have said its a nice passive heal since it procs from any kind of crit, there are some way worse passives out there^^

    @Mantic0r3 well they crit in PTS 1.6. so unlesss they reverted that change...
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  • Mantic0r3
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Mantic0r3 wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    HiP wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.
    Mobs do critical since 1.6.

    no they dont, stop spreading those silly rumors

    @topic as many others have said its a nice passive heal since it procs from any kind of crit, there are some way worse passives out there^^

    @Mantic0r3 well they crit in PTS 1.6. so unlesss they reverted that change...

    yes they did for one iteration of the pts patches because they bugged out and it was fixed in the next weeks patch...
  • aco5712
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    Mantic0r3 wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    Mantic0r3 wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    HiP wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    It does scale off max health However I will say that it might not look like a lot but when your a pure tank ie. Full speced for it, and when people are doing next to no damage. The heal is quite big in comparison

    i thought that too, but, if you're fully tanking, you're blocking, if you block, you take no critical hit, so the heal from the passive will never proc.
    and on tanks, i do more than 20 times more damage than that heal when they block, so no, that heal is not big at all in comparison.
    maybe it's a pve passive, but mobs don't crit.
    Mobs do critical since 1.6.

    no they dont, stop spreading those silly rumors

    @topic as many others have said its a nice passive heal since it procs from any kind of crit, there are some way worse passives out there^^

    @Mantic0r3 well they crit in PTS 1.6. so unlesss they reverted that change...

    yes they did for one iteration of the pts patches because they bugged out and it was fixed in the next weeks patch...

    okay well i didnt know that coz i dont pve but good to know impene is worthless in pve aswell now lol
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  • HiP
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    Skafsgaard wrote: »
    Sounds ok for PvP tanking. It's not only legendary geared sorc spamming their frags - there're vr3's with dual wield etc too and lots and lots of small ticks (dots), magicla, phyiscal dots all over - but I forgot now, is there a CD on the proc or is it EVERY crit? If no CD on the proc and you have around 32k health I think it's a nice little passive heal imo - but maybe not for solo, but for the usual DK tank bait 'n play with some snipers and sorcs around to make the take downs... dunno

    i did not feel a CD when standing in a caltrops + lightning flood AOEs and having entropy + destro dots on me, so maybe there's a CD but it is far less than 0.25 s
    taking that much small damage makes it worthwile even with a 0 HP spec.

    how does it scale with HP ?
    can anybody with high HP tell us the value they read on the tooltip ? :)
  • Francescolg
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    Hello @HiP
    be assured, the CP-passive works very good, especially in PvP! Many players like to use small "damaging effects" to proc their undaunted-sets (DoTs, poison, Calltrops, Channeled Skills, etc.etc. Every little f...ing crit dmg can proc that passive, making it even a choice for magicka melee-builds in PvP!
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