Magicka Caster Nightblade in 1.6 - Build and PvP Footage!

Sypher · March 2015

PvP Gameplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrNNWzPVbjk

Build Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST5QxFhQsF8

Hope you enjoy and can benefit from the build!

IxSTALKERxI · March 2015

No magicka detonation? *sadface*

Sypher · March 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

No magicka detonation? *sadface*

I do slot it from time to time. It's really fun to use with cloak into detonation cast.

Soulac · March 2015

Still Destro.. Sad kitty is sad.

Suntzu1414 · March 2015

Thank you.

Kill Well
ST

Jbugz97 · March 2015

@Sypher
its good to see you moved on from those cliff no more fall damaged good vid

Aimelin · March 2015

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

Sypher · March 2015

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

olsborg · March 2015

Just hope its fixed as they say, and is 4% better then sharpened, in 1.5, sharpened was still better then nirnhoned offencively somehow, wich is wierd. Even after they fixed sharpened.

I did tests so I know this for sure.

Will test again once this fix is live.

TheBucket · March 2015

Mirage is great.

Nirn is not.. Shouldn't use it imo till it's fixed.

TheBucket · March 2015

Also.. What is 8% stamina recovery?

I feel like reduction would be better. idk

Aimelin · March 2015

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

Glad you know what build and armor / weapons & traits i used, you must have special powers ....

Sure, i can claim the majority of clips are without nirnhoned aswell, as i'm sure you crafted one "just to test it out", sustain means nothing when they do 15k heavy attacks

then again, seeing as you couldn't kill a v5 templar in 1.5, doesn't surprise me you jumped on the nirnhoned wagon

Sypher · March 2015

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

Glad you know what build and armor / weapons & traits i used, you must have special powers ....

Sure, i can claim the majority of clips are without nirnhoned aswell, as i'm sure you crafted one "just to test it out", sustain means nothing when they do 15k heavy attacks

then again, seeing as you couldn't kill a v5 templar in 1.5, doesn't surprise me you jumped on the nirnhoned wagon

I don't have to prove anything

I'm not a one hit wonder trying to paint a false impression. I will continue to put out content regardless of the changes and patches, it's what I love to do.

People like you who try to pick apart my content due to whatever personal issue you have with me keeps me motivated to continue.

Thanks for the support

Sypher · March 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

Also.. What is 8% stamina recovery?

I feel like reduction would be better. idk

I prefer the recovery as I rarely block or dodge roll as often to make reduction worth it. I spend a lot of time moving around hidden from target to target. Extra regen during that downtime is more benifecial for my play style.

TheBucket · March 2015

Sypher wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

Also.. What is 8% stamina recovery?

I feel like reduction would be better. idk

I prefer the recovery as I rarely block or dodge roll as often to make reduction worth it. I spend a lot of time moving around hidden from target to target. Extra regen during that downtime is more benifecial for my play style.

Yea, I just think 8% is not worth it. Would be better spent on dodge roll reduction.

Isn't it 8% of your total amount? So that's like.... Yea.

What's 80 returned stamina when you can reduce dodge rolling which in my opinion is way more effective. Especially with a jumper build (like mine). But, you are right.. it's what you prefer that matters.

Edit: Read your post more clearly. I see what you're saying since you are a magic build using Cloak to mobilize yourself.

Sypher · March 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

Also.. What is 8% stamina recovery?

I feel like reduction would be better. idk

I prefer the recovery as I rarely block or dodge roll as often to make reduction worth it. I spend a lot of time moving around hidden from target to target. Extra regen during that downtime is more benifecial for my play style.

Yea, I just think 8% is not worth it. Would be better spent on dodge roll reduction.

Isn't it 8% of your total amount? So that's like.... Yea.

What's 80 returned stamina when you can reduce dodge rolling which in my opinion is way more effective. Especially with a jumper build (like mine). But, you are right.. it's what you prefer that matters.

What's the Stam saved on dodge roll reduction vs regen?

Assuming I'm in light, wouldn't both numbers be underwhelming?

Maybe I should put those points somewhere else like more magicka reduction or regen.

Aimelin · March 2015

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

Glad you know what build and armor / weapons & traits i used, you must have special powers ....

Sure, i can claim the majority of clips are without nirnhoned aswell, as i'm sure you crafted one "just to test it out", sustain means nothing when they do 15k heavy attacks

then again, seeing as you couldn't kill a v5 templar in 1.5, doesn't surprise me you jumped on the nirnhoned wagon

I don't have to prove anything

I'm not a one hit wonder trying to paint a false impression. I will continue to put out content regardless of the changes and patches, it's what I love to do.

People like you who try to pick apart my content due to whatever personal issue you have with me keeps me motivated to continue.

Thanks for the support

Here's you thinking i have a personal issue with you, i'm just pointing out you (ab)use a broken part of the game to come out on top of the rest ...

if i had an issue with you, i'd just hunt you in cyrodiil and make a video about it

Panda244 · March 2015

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

Glad you know what build and armor / weapons & traits i used, you must have special powers ....

Sure, i can claim the majority of clips are without nirnhoned aswell, as i'm sure you crafted one "just to test it out", sustain means nothing when they do 15k heavy attacks

then again, seeing as you couldn't kill a v5 templar in 1.5, doesn't surprise me you jumped on the nirnhoned wagon

@Aimelin

Nice video though Sypher

scy22b14_ESO · March 2015

Here's what I can't figure out.

Why the hell does your dark cloak work so often? I'd say that at least 50% of the time mine either doesn't work, or people attack me while I'm in it. Your secret?

Sypher · March 2015

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's what I can't figure out.

Why the hell does your dark cloak work so often? I'd say that at least 50% of the time mine either doesn't work, or people attack me while I'm in it. Your secret?

A few things I do to make it work more often than not.

1. Use speed/teleport to create distance before activating, I find that my cloak breaks a majority of the time when enemies are too close.

2. Well timed dodge roll right before cloak also helps.

3. Sometimes I might activate it more than once quickly just incase I get pulled out of it so I can immediately go back in it.

It still has its issues, gap closers breaking it, radiant destruction not being removed by it, etc.

Joy_Division · March 2015

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's what I can't figure out.

Why the hell does your dark cloak work so often? I'd say that at least 50% of the time mine either doesn't work, or people attack me while I'm in it. Your secret?

I'm not saying the skill doesn't have it's issues, but all those threads and cries that it is "worthless" are *way* overstated. Sypher is right that this skill should be a given on NB bars.

People are much more apt to remember the minority of times it doesn't work as opposed to the majority of times that it does.

Samadhi · March 2015

Sypher wrote: »

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's what I can't figure out.

Why the hell does your dark cloak work so often? I'd say that at least 50% of the time mine either doesn't work, or people attack me while I'm in it. Your secret?

A few things I do to make it work more often than not.

1. Use speed/teleport to create distance before activating, I find that my cloak breaks a majority of the time when enemies are too close.
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This is a huge factor.

Use Shadowy Disguise + Concealed Weapon on my Nightblade Healer to move around the field at high-speed while untargettable and unseen, and the crit rate increase from Shadowy Disguise turns things into guaranteed crit heals. Being able to pop out and hit an ally near death with Healing Ward then turn around and make the pop a guaranteed crit can save lives.
Since my time is spent out of range of most enemies, am basically a ghost.

Detection potions with the Medicinal Use passive will likely kill it for me eventually though.
Craft myself potions that give Stealth Detection 20 meters for 40 seconds, Major Sorcery for 40 seconds and Magicka Regen for 40 seconds on a 45 second cooldown. That kind of uptime counters other Nightblades even more effectively than the potions used to.

Fatalyis · March 2015

Good stuff, Sypher, as always. I spent most of my time in 1.5 as a caster NB and, aside from some of the gear pairings, I've been using damn near the exact same build. It's a lot of fun, but the Nirnhoned bug and the issue with Dark Cloak not being able to break Radiant really have been frustrating.

Thanks for the vids!

Rust_in_Peace · March 2015

scy22b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's what I can't figure out.

Why the hell does your dark cloak work so often? I'd say that at least 50% of the time mine either doesn't work, or people attack me while I'm in it. Your secret?

Cloaking while still getting hammered on never really works. Like others said, gotta break contact or LOS and then use it for max effectiveness.

Fatalyis · March 2015

I can vouch for cloak having it's issues, but it may not always be that cloak is bugging out. I do know that detect potions are being used quite frequently now, and with a length of 40 seconds, it can be a nightmare to deal with. I've had people pop me while I was in cloak and I was not initiating any combat whatsoever.

Poxheart · March 2015

When I start playing my NB again I plan on using immovable, speed, stamina regen pots to GTFO before using cloak. 40 seconds of sprinting with 15 seconds immovable will go a long way toward improving the chances of surviving.

Lava_Croft · March 2015

Cloak -> Dodgeroll -> Cloak -> Dodgeroll -> Cloak.

Sypher · March 2015

I still feel like gap closers shouldn't break cloak.

Lhorion · March 2015

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

rofl nirnhoned is bugged, the fact that you even use it in its current state says alot

A majority of the clips are without nirnhoned. bugs aside, it's still the most viable option for light armor builds to increase pen/resistance. I heard it was bugged so I crafted a staff to test it out. I'm glad they're fixing it on Monday, as a solo player, having more sustain is better than maxing damage, so it will help tremendously that all the casters won't be hitting me for as much as they do now.

A majority of the caster player base (including you) used sharpened for months and that had the same issue as nirnhoned. I specifically mentioned that it was bugged but left it in there because it's still the most viable option after Monday's fix.

Glad you know what build and armor / weapons & traits i used, you must have special powers ....

Sure, i can claim the majority of clips are without nirnhoned aswell, as i'm sure you crafted one "just to test it out", sustain means nothing when they do 15k heavy attacks

then again, seeing as you couldn't kill a v5 templar in 1.5, doesn't surprise me you jumped on the nirnhoned wagon

You are templar? So I am sure you did not use Radiant Destruction until it was fixed?

Erondil · March 2015

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Cloak -> Dodgeroll -> Cloak -> Dodgeroll -> Cloak.

Well 2 dodgerolls with magicka build on 1.6 = no more stam to break cc... doesnt worth it imo

Nice vids btw, even if I dont like destro nb style.

kokoandshinb14a_ESO · March 2015

Good Day Sypher

Im curious to know why and how HA seducer/Warlock would or wouldnt work with the build?

the bonuses that LA offers to magic use/regen/consumption seem marginal, and it seems like with enough MRegen and a high Magika pool, that 5 HA +2 LA, or 5 HA + 1MA +1LA would still be good, especially with the CP one can assign to augment regen and spell DPS