Why we not allow to sold stolen cloth?

QuadroTony · March 2015

i have few already cleared clothes (new equipable parts added in 1.6)
more info here - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148523/amazing-news/p1
not bound
i can trade it with other players

but i cannot list it to the guild store

WHY?

example of the item

as an addon writer i can tell this items has ITEMPYTE_NONE in their properties, so they havent their place at the subfilters of inventory
its a bug or not?

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

Could you list items from random world containers on the guild store before?

Nestor · March 2015

I thought everything that was part of the new JS loot was Bound.

QuadroTony · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Could you list items from random world containers on the guild store before?

yes ofc
i sold many sets from vr10 chests
but its different
its stolen cloth items

QuadroTony · March 2015

Nestor wrote: »

I thought everything that was part of the new JS loot was Bound.

this cloth will bound if you wear it

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Could you list items from random world containers on the guild store before?

yes ofc
i sold many sets from vr10 chests
but its different
its stolen cloth items

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

QuadroTony · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you cannnot loot items like this

only usual weapons/armor(green) and you can sold them ofc

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you can loot from containers in cities only green weapon+armor with intricate of other trait
of you able to slod them too

this is new type of items in 1.6 with ITEMTYPE_NONE, afaik

I have no idea what that first sentence means.

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

Zershar_Vemod · March 2015

Try laundering it first maybe?

driosketch · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Could you list items from random world containers on the guild store before?

These kinds of items couldn't be found before. If you're talking about the 0 value junk, pretty sure you could.

Even after laundering them you can't list the new regular clothes in a guild store. you may be able to trade them player to player.

QuadroTony · March 2015

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

Guild traders accept laundered recipes, etc. that were considered stolen. But green armor/weapons from containers are considered generic drops (just like their valueless white counterparts). As far as I know, they've never been listable on the guild store.

And again, I have to ask: who would buy this junk gear?

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you can loot from containers in cities only green weapon+armor with intricate of other trait
of you able to slod them too

this is new type of items in 1.6 with ITEMTYPE_NONE, afaik

I have no idea what that first sentence means.

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

What @QuadroTony is saying is that these items didn't exist before 1.6 so you could not have sold them.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

Guild traders accept laundered recipes, etc. that were considered stolen. But green armor/weapons from containers are considered generic drops (just like their valueless white counterparts). As far as I know, they've never been listable on the guild store.

And again, I have to ask: who would buy this junk gear?

People who RP would probably buy it. I know you don't use addons, but there are actually some fantastic addons that allow you to easily swap gear. You should check it out sometime.

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you can loot from containers in cities only green weapon+armor with intricate of other trait
of you able to slod them too

this is new type of items in 1.6 with ITEMTYPE_NONE, afaik

I have no idea what that first sentence means.

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

What @QuadroTony is saying is that these items didn't exist before 1.6 so you could not have sold them.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

Guild traders accept laundered recipes, etc. that were considered stolen. But green armor/weapons from containers are considered generic drops (just like their valueless white counterparts). As far as I know, they've never been listable on the guild store.

And again, I have to ask: who would buy this junk gear?

People who RP would probably buy it. I know you don't use addons, but there are actually some fantastic addons that allow you to easily swap gear. You should check it out sometime.

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

And these really can't have any value to roleplayers, because they aren't unique cosmetic items. You can't loot a green piece of light armor from a container that can't be crafted, and the pieces that are dropped generally don't have traits (or have the "Intricate" trait).

driosketch · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you can loot from containers in cities only green weapon+armor with intricate of other trait
of you able to slod them too

this is new type of items in 1.6 with ITEMTYPE_NONE, afaik

I have no idea what that first sentence means.

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

What @QuadroTony is saying is that these items didn't exist before 1.6 so you could not have sold them.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

Guild traders accept laundered recipes, etc. that were considered stolen. But green armor/weapons from containers are considered generic drops (just like their valueless white counterparts). As far as I know, they've never been listable on the guild store.

And again, I have to ask: who would buy this junk gear?

People who RP would probably buy it. I know you don't use addons, but there are actually some fantastic addons that allow you to easily swap gear. You should check it out sometime.

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

And these really can't have any value to roleplayers, because they aren't unique cosmetic items. You can't loot a green piece of light armor from a container that can't be crafted, and the pieces that are dropped generally don't have traits (or have the "Intricate" trait).

@nerevarine1138 you are confusing the heck out of me. Which items are you referring to?

And what items do you think OP is referring to?

QuadroTony · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

look again at the first post
and to this
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148523/amazing-news/p1

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

look again at the first post
and to this
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148523/amazing-news/p1

Oh, holy Stendarr.

Those aren't green cloth items. Those are white-quality disguises. Not even remotely close.

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I'm not talking about chests. I'm talking about the generic equipment that you can get from random containers. It wasn't considered stolen before (because that was impossible), but I'm pretty sure you could sell it on the guild store.

before 1.6 you can loot from containers in cities only green weapon+armor with intricate of other trait
of you able to slod them too

this is new type of items in 1.6 with ITEMTYPE_NONE, afaik

I have no idea what that first sentence means.

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

What @QuadroTony is saying is that these items didn't exist before 1.6 so you could not have sold them.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Try laundering it first maybe?

ofc i told its clear now

we can only trade em player-to-player

dunno why
guild traders dont wanna take stolen(but cleared) goods? logic?

Guild traders accept laundered recipes, etc. that were considered stolen. But green armor/weapons from containers are considered generic drops (just like their valueless white counterparts). As far as I know, they've never been listable on the guild store.

And again, I have to ask: who would buy this junk gear?

People who RP would probably buy it. I know you don't use addons, but there are actually some fantastic addons that allow you to easily swap gear. You should check it out sometime.

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

And these really can't have any value to roleplayers, because they aren't unique cosmetic items. You can't loot a green piece of light armor from a container that can't be crafted, and the pieces that are dropped generally don't have traits (or have the "Intricate" trait).

I'm pretty sure this item isn't what you're describing. I'm very confused how you were able to find these items pre 1.6.

QuadroTony · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

look again at the first post
and to this
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148523/amazing-news/p1

Oh, holy Stendarr.

Those aren't green cloth items. Those are white-quality disguises. Not even remotely close.

yes, its part of equipment now, not like disguises - disguises are different and coming to the "Appearance" slot
and this we talking about equipping to the each of 7 armor slots
i added picture to the first post in 30 sec after topic was created

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

If he's saying that they didn't exist, then he's mistaken. I saw green items drop from random containers on a regular basis once they introduced random generic item drops.

look again at the first post
and to this
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148523/amazing-news/p1

Oh, holy Stendarr.

Those aren't green cloth items. Those are white-quality disguises. Not even remotely close.

yes, its part of equipment now, not like disguises - disguises are different and coming to the "Appearance" slot
and this we talking about equipping to the each of 7 armor slots
i added picture to the first post in 30 sec after topic was created

It's possible he hasn't played it since 1.6 went live.

Thavie · March 2015

Those are white-quality disguises.

Well, you're wrong again

It's not disguise, it's new tipe of loot - clothes. You can put it into armor slots, not disguise slot.

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

Thavie wrote: »

Those are white-quality disguises.

Well, you're wrong again It's not disguise, it's new tipe of loot - clothes. You can put it into armor slots, not disguise slot.

Yeah, I didn't realize this was so confusing to people.

Nestor · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Green items were dropping pre-1.6, and they were not, as far as I know, available for selling on the guild store. Who would buy them, anyway?

Green Armor and Weapons found in regular containers was frequently Intricate, so had value to crafters looking to deconstruct. I never tried to sell them in a Kiosk, only decon or Vendored.

Gidorick · March 2015

I'll buy clothes from you @QuadroTony I don't want to steal but I'll buy from those that do

pm me what you have and what you're looking to get for them!

QuadroTony · March 2015

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

It's possible he hasn't played it since 1.6 went live.

ye, first post edited for clarification

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

I'll buy clothes from you @QuadroTony I don't want to steal but I'll buy from those that do pm me what you have and what you're looking to get for them!

Gidorick the Fence.

driosketch · March 2015

Now that that's clear, I'm thinking it might be because the guild stores list according to armor type, and even though these are equipable like armor, they don't have a type. Probably a coding oversight.

QuadroTony · March 2015

yes as an addon writer i can tell this items has ITEMPYTE_NONE in their properties, so they havent their place at the subfilters of inventory

poor "clothumes"

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

yes as an addon writer i can tell this items has ITEMPYTE_NONE in their properties, so they havent their place at the subfilters of inventory

poor "clothumes"

That's unfortunate.

QuadroTony · March 2015

should we report this as a bug?

@ZOS_GinaBruno if you can tell us pls

QuadroTony · March 2015

will w8 till afternoon tomorrow and then i will report this items