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PvP Cyrodil some serious issues that NEED FIXING NOW
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Bugs I experienced tonight in Cyrodil Thornbladewith and without my add ons enabled (as in they happened to me multiple times and I have reported them)
-Setup a siege weapon multiple times and was not able to use it . . . also could not dismantle them no indicators for anything . . . very useless when trying to stop 50 or more EP headed your way
-Game crashed while sieging a keep
- Saw players frozen in mid air
- A lot of other little things that detract from the PvP experience
***Please do not tell me this is a problem with my system here are my specs 32GB Ram, Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan graphics card, Intel 4770k i7 3.5Ghz processor, Asus Gene VI motherboard, 3 SSD hard drives two at 500gb and 1 at 120GB ESO ison one of the 500gb ones with plenty of memory
If I am experiencing problems it is simply not on my end especially when I disable all my addons
I have been playing since Beta, I have always subscribed for 6 month periods and I intend to keep doing so cause I like the game. Please fix these issues now. ZOS you will not have success if your game is not sharp going into your console release. I expect a reply from someone in your customer service in response to this thread. If I am a loyal player and customer and I am frustrated that means all the new players you pick up will pack their bags if these issues persist.
-Setup a siege weapon multiple times and was not able to use it . . . also could not dismantle them no indicators for anything . . . very useless when trying to stop 50 or more EP headed your way
-Game crashed while sieging a keep
- Saw players frozen in mid air
- A lot of other little things that detract from the PvP experience
***Please do not tell me this is a problem with my system here are my specs 32GB Ram, Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan graphics card, Intel 4770k i7 3.5Ghz processor, Asus Gene VI motherboard, 3 SSD hard drives two at 500gb and 1 at 120GB ESO ison one of the 500gb ones with plenty of memory
If I am experiencing problems it is simply not on my end especially when I disable all my addons
I have been playing since Beta, I have always subscribed for 6 month periods and I intend to keep doing so cause I like the game. Please fix these issues now. ZOS you will not have success if your game is not sharp going into your console release. I expect a reply from someone in your customer service in response to this thread. If I am a loyal player and customer and I am frustrated that means all the new players you pick up will pack their bags if these issues persist.
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NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭well.....did you reset your router?
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✭Oh and EVERY time I go look at the map it activates cursor mode, which is SUPER annoying and game interferring cause you have to switch back to normal mode by pressing a button.0 -
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✭NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
I upgraded my wireless router last week it is a new Netgear Router and I have consistent speeds of 250 MBPS0 -
JDar✭✭✭✭✭All of those things are normal. Those features have been in PvP since launch.
If my siege worked every time and I didn't see players frozen in mid-air, I'd submit a bug report because.4 -
kimboh✭✭✭✭Oh and EVERY time I go look at the map it activates cursor mode, which is SUPER annoying and game interferring cause you have to switch back to normal mode by pressing a button.
That bug is caused by the 'buy multiple' option at the siege vendor, don't buy multiple and you will not get the bug any more.
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drschplatt✭✭✭✭NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
Lol, or forward your ports? Or flush your DNS? Or any of the multiple other suggestions I get back in the form letters every time I contact support about the horrible latency and lag in the game?
Funny how it's always our fault.
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Irista✭✭drschplatt wrote: »NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
Lol, or forward your ports? Or flush your DNS? Or any of the multiple other suggestions I get back in the form letters every time I contact support about the horrible latency and lag in the game?
Funny how it's always our fault.
I have never really had any issues with gameplay interference and I've played since launch. (Discounting general latency lag due to a mass amount of people/spells/etc in an area.. that's normal to experience a tiny bit of lag in an MMO).
However today it's been a literal nightmare. Tried to get into Vet Spindleclutch today. Hitting freeze spikes that last 3s or so. Shut down the game completely, got back in.. it was fine. Later I'm in Cyrodiil. SAME thing. Huge lag spikes that makes it seem like my game is crashing. No crash. Game responds... eventually...
Happened again when I zoned to quest in Auridon.
Not to mention the SEVERE frustration due to the enlightenment bugs. I finally get the buff back, get to Auridon, pull the first mob (and it was ONE mob) and I hit the 2s lag spikes that make the game seem like a slide show.
Log off.. log back in. Poof. Enlightenment is gone.
Pardon my rage. I'm in the same boat. My rig is fine, my connection is fine. Yes I've turned it off and on again. And my stuff is plugged in :P
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✭Oh and EVERY time I go look at the map it activates cursor mode, which is SUPER annoying and game interferring cause you have to switch back to normal mode by pressing a button.
That bug is caused by the 'buy multiple' option at the siege vendor, don't buy multiple and you will not get the bug any more.
OHHHHHH so this bug is supposed to be acceptable . . . OMG ZOS fix this bug NOW . . . what the heck . . . hire some coders to make hotfixes 24/7 or something
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Game is ruined now. Good job ZOS. If you have any more bright ideas or things you wanna add to the game, do us a favor...Keep It To yourselves. Save yourself another embarrassment. Its obvious now you have NO CLUE what you are doing!Edited by nukeemstudiosub17_ESO on March 11, 2015 4:54AM1
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✭Honestly, I've been very civil up to this point, but now I'm thinking sheer outrage at the lack of responsiveness from ZOS is in order. ARE YOU TRYING TO LOSE YOUR PC/MAC CUSTOMER BASE? Someone should be fired at this point and someone with more competence brought in . . .3 -
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✭✭✭drschplatt wrote: »NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
Lol, or forward your ports? Or flush your DNS? Or any of the multiple other suggestions I get back in the form letters every time I contact support about the horrible latency and lag in the game?
Funny how it's always our fault.
I've Flushed the Toilet , Cleaned the leaves out of the gutters and broomed the chimney flume and still got the Lagz !1 -
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✭drschplatt wrote: »NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
Lol, or forward your ports? Or flush your DNS? Or any of the multiple other suggestions I get back in the form letters every time I contact support about the horrible latency and lag in the game?
Funny how it's always our fault.
I've Flushed the Toilet , Cleaned the leaves out of the gutters and broomed the chimney flume and still got the Lagz !
My only hope at this point is that we can turn the forums into a giant complaint box and finally see some progress . . . Once they stabilize the game then maybe, maybe they can deliver us some fun stuff.3 -
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✭✭✭drschplatt wrote: »NukeAllTheThings wrote: »well.....did you reset your router?
Lol, or forward your ports? Or flush your DNS? Or any of the multiple other suggestions I get back in the form letters every time I contact support about the horrible latency and lag in the game?
Funny how it's always our fault.
I've Flushed the Toilet , Cleaned the leaves out of the gutters and broomed the chimney flume and still got the Lagz !
My only hope at this point is that we can turn the forums into a giant complaint box and finally see some progress . . . Once they stabilize the game then maybe, maybe they can deliver us some fun stuff.
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Rasimir✭✭✭It's about time for a definitive answer: ZOS, are you seriously trying to make PvP work, or is it just a sidetrack? For me, the PvP part is the one usp that distinguishes ESO from other games. The PvE part isn't much different from other MMOs (except for those hardcore elder Scrolls fanbase... but can these people really support a game?).
My most important problems (Thornblade EU):
- Lag. Since 1.6, even smaller groups experience it with high latency, skills and doors not responding, It now happens occasionally when you are not even close to the action.
- sometimes all skills stop working, can't press any key
- crashes to desktop are back, happen to me once or twice every evening
- indicators vanishing, forcing uns to restart the client
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✭✭✭I just want a version roll-back to 1.2 or 1.3. At least then large battles where supported with less lag. I remember at start i was amazed how many people it could handle at once and even made loads of screenshots to show it to my buddies. Now the groups you encounter are smaller and cause major lag. Feels like SWTOR PvP.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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✭✭✭✭It's totally acceptable to tank the game's performance a couple of months after it has released and then not fix it for the coming year. I mean, a sale is a sale right? Buy to Play is coming and the suckers who bought into the expensive extended beta can sod off.
Right?Edited by Lava_Croft on March 11, 2015 5:55AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭For a sake of comparison, here is what happens when Lag or bugs are reported in a PvE Zone. Look at the 5th and 47th response. Same day response and resolution.
Are we playing two different games here? Are PvP'ers second class citizens of Tamriel?Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 11, 2015 5:57AM2 -
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That's because PvE zones are inherently much easier to fix. While I dislike ZOS' near complete disregard for PvP just as much as anyone else, one should understand that Cyrodiil is in a totally different ballpark compared to a PvE zone. If there was a 'fix' they could apply, they would have done so long ago. The problem is that so far nobody at ZOS even seems to have the faintest clue about how to fix Cyrodiil, as evidenced by laughable 'fixes' like removing deer and torchbugs and lowering the population cap.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »For a sake of comparison, here is what happens when Lag or bugs are reported in a PvE Zone. Look at the 5th and 47th response. Same day response and resolution.
Are we playing two different games here? Are PvP'ers second class citizens of Tamriel?
Edited by Lava_Croft on March 11, 2015 6:02AM4 -
Aektann✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »For a sake of comparison, here is what happens when Lag or bugs are reported in a PvE Zone. Look at the 5th and 47th response. Same day response and resolution.
Are we playing two different games here? Are PvP'ers second class citizens of Tamriel?
Yes , that's right, we are second class citizens. ZOS just ignore us.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
That's because PvE zones are inherently much easier to fix. While I dislike ZOS' near complete disregard for PvP just as much as anyone else, one should understand that Cyrodiil is in a totally different ballpark compared to a PvE zone. If there was a 'fix' they could apply, they would have done so long ago. The problem is that so far nobody at ZOS even seems to have the faintest clue about how to fix Cyrodiil, as evidenced by laughable 'fixes' like removing deer and torchbugs and lowering the population cap.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »For a sake of comparison, here is what happens when Lag or bugs are reported in a PvE Zone. Look at the 5th and 47th response. Same day response and resolution.
Are we playing two different games here? Are PvP'ers second class citizens of Tamriel?
AKA the "programming is hard" excuse. I see this type of response frequently. Yes, programming is hard. Taking a pre-built graphics engine and then adding all the netcode that is required for PvP takes some very talented programmers.
And that is why you hire talented programmers and pay them a salary commensurate with their experience - oh wait, why am I falling out of my chair. When you don't invest the resources you need, you don't get a high quality product. Other games have massive online PvP, its a matter of how much they care about PvP, and how much we let them know we care.3 -
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Nausea aside, your Cat does make an important point, which I will illustrate with further cats.
I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Guess I need to start taking carebear lessons. Despite all the frustration and neglect we feel, perhaps we need to modify our approach a bit from angry kitty to sad kitty.
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ForTheRealm✭✭✭I expect there will be a special item in the Crown Store, maybe a potion named "Khajit Swiftness Mojo" which will give "5 minutes lag-less Cyrodill experience" with a note "works only when used by one character in Cyrodill at a time"...0
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✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »
Nausea aside, your Cat does make an important point, which I will illustrate with further cats.
I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Guess I need to start taking carebear lessons. Despite all the frustration and neglect we feel, perhaps we need to modify our approach a bit from angry kitty to sad kitty.
The sad kitty is going to grow up and be an angry kitty . . . Okay but that's beside the point, there is a lot of rage in the PvP community and it can't keep on being ignored or marginalizedEdited by Messy1 on March 11, 2015 10:28AM1
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