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Enlightment change.

Rydik
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We fixed an issue where more Enlightenment was being given per day than intended. You will now gain one Champion Point worth of Enlightenment per day.
Can someone explain how this change work? Is it 1 cp worth of Enlightment mean 400K exp can be obtained under Enlightment(x4) so 4cp per day under enlightment max and they fixed bug that allow more of it per day. Or i can obtain only 1 cp per day under Enlightment, then grind with suck speed???
Edited by Rydik on March 9, 2015 12:13AM
  • Natjur
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    There is no max CP you can earn per day.
    BUT 24hrs of Enlightenment = 100,000xp (which x4 as your enlighted and therefore 1 CP (400,000xp)

    After your Enlightenment runs out, you can still earn CP, but it takes 400k exp instead of 100k exp.

    Enlightenment can still stack up to 3 days worth (if you have not been on and using it) which means it will last for 300k xp (or 3 cp)

    The bug they fixed allowed some people to have endless Enlightenment instead of just 100k's worth
    Edited by Natjur on March 9, 2015 12:16AM
  • Rydik
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    So Enlightment now allow to obtain only 1 cp fast per day + other xp nerfs... People nerfed again, nice...
  • Natjur
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    Rydik wrote: »
    So Enlightment now allow to obtain only 1 cp fast per day + other xp nerfs... People nerfed again, nice...
    Yep, so if you did not use the bug to get 200+ cp points (with the PVP Keep and Craglorn daily's bug), then your back to the very slow grind.

  • Rydik
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    Natjur wrote: »
    Rydik wrote: »
    So Enlightment now allow to obtain only 1 cp fast per day + other xp nerfs... People nerfed again, nice...
    Yep, so if you did not use the bug to get 200+ cp points (with the PVP Keep and Craglorn daily's bug), then your back to the very slow grind.

    So there people with 200+ cp, and cp gain for normal people nerfed, nice job @Zos! I have 40 cp for now, how the hell i suppose to be competitive with this people now!? WIth my play time (few hours per day) it takes 160 days to catch up, but for that moment they have 500+ cp, Zos managed to completly destroy competitive gameplay in one week...
    Edited by Rydik on March 9, 2015 2:47AM
  • Anath_Q
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    So, after 50-odd hours of first logging in with my vet toon I finally seem to have enlightenment...just in time for this nerf.

    I have finally accepted the fact that I will likely never see more than a couple CP in my lifetime.

    This is a farce.
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  • Tavore1138
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    Yeah - they fixed those who got extra enlightenment but not those who got less than they should, typical rush to destroy fun while not actually fixing problems.

    The only realistic explanation is that they plan to sell CP potions as 'time savers'.
  • Eggzie
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    Natjur wrote: »
    Rydik wrote: »
    So Enlightment now allow to obtain only 1 cp fast per day + other xp nerfs... People nerfed again, nice...
    Yep, so if you did not use the bug to get 200+ cp points (with the PVP Keep and Craglorn daily's bug), then your back to the very slow grind.

    The keep exploit had nothing to do with enlightenment. It was a gold dupe.
  • Rydik
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    Anath_Q wrote: »
    So, after 50-odd hours of first logging in with my vet toon I finally seem to have enlightenment...just in time for this nerf.

    I have finally accepted the fact that I will likely never see more than a couple CP in my lifetime.

    This is a farce.

    Completly agree, it looks like a joke, grinders and abusers now sits on hundreds of cp, and now, after change, literally impossible for normal players to catch up with them, they basicly already win this game in one week, atleast competitive part of it.
    Edited by Rydik on March 9, 2015 2:37AM
  • Enodoc
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    Putting the exploit aside, fixing something that was broken isn't really a nerf. ZOS always said that it was supposed to be one Champion Point worth of Enlightenment per day (400,000 XP), capping at 1,200,000 after three days accumulation.
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  • Rydik
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    Putting the exploit aside, fixing something that was broken isn't really a nerf. ZOS always said that it was supposed to be one Champion Point worth of Enlightenment per day (400,000 XP), capping at 1,200,000 after three days accumulation.

    I have nothing against if it worked like that from the very beginning, but many people used this bug or exploit and now have hundreds of cp. With 1 cp worth of Enlightment per day I can never catch up with them and be competitive...
  • Kragorn
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    CPs are simply another in the growing list of 'abuse early, abuse often' cases which ZOS gave us and although fixing never actually undo the horrible advantage the abusers got from abusing it.
  • Valnas
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    it was never endless.

    They were giving 400k out initially. This wasn't a bug, this is how it was on PTS.

    When they realized how fast people were gaining them, they backed off and hotfixed it but don't let them fool you.

    400k of enlightenment = 1,600,000 xp of gain (4 cp's)

    People describing infinite enlightenment simply didn't earn more than 4 a day till it got nerfed.
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  • Huntler
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    No one has over 200 CPs, keep seeing that garbage posted with no proof. They are lying to make themselves feel better about the bug.
  • Enodoc
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    Rydik wrote: »
    Enodoc wrote: »
    Putting the exploit aside, fixing something that was broken isn't really a nerf. ZOS always said that it was supposed to be one Champion Point worth of Enlightenment per day (400,000 XP), capping at 1,200,000 after three days accumulation.

    I have nothing against if it worked like that from the very beginning, but many people used this bug or exploit and now have hundreds of cp. With 1 cp worth of Enlightment per day I can never catch up with them and be competitive...
    Hopefully they will address this with some form of limiter applied to people who exploited and ended up with "too many" XPs, something like this:
    - Some people have had a permanent Enlightenment bonus for days now and others have gained an insane amount of Champion points already with an exploit. For the sake of fairness, I think a fix that reduces any Champion XP gained after the first 30 Champion Points earned after the release of Update 6 (excluding the up to 70 CP gained by conversion from veteran ranks) by dividing it by 4 would be helpful:
      Someone with 10 CP earned since release of Update 6 would still have all 10 of those CP. Someone with 30 CP earned would keep all 30 of those CP. Someone with 50 CP earned would keep 35 of those CP. Someone with 100 CP earned would keep 47.5 of those CP. Someone with 200 CP earned would keep 72.5 of those CP.
    Additionally, those who used the Cyrodiil exploit to gain a large amount of CP should have their CP reset to 0 as a penalty (and only keep the ones they got from the conversion of veteran ranks).
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