So what DO you want us to do for decent xp?
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I stopped playing for a few months when i had 2 v12 toons. I needed a break. At the time to get to v14 i could have chose to grind from 12-14 pretty quick with the boss farm that was the fastest way to do it. I decided not to bother, i don't really enjoy long grinds on same mobs.
so i come back to sample the new champion and justtice stuff. I think while getting champ points i can get to v14 on my toons and it,ll be refreshing.
here's the thing, while i was gone they removed the xp from almost every activity in the game. Well not removed but completely minimised it so nothing feels remotely rewarding for your time. pvp would take me till about XMAS to get one guy from v12-14 , ive done all the solo quests in the entire game. and they removed decent xp gains from delves or boss farming.
what is the reasoning behind this? If the objective is to stop folk progressing too much to fast then simply cap xp gains per week or something. i could then play for a couple of days per week hit the cap and play something else till it re-sets. like weekly dungeon timers.
as it stands it seems they want us to play all week but feel utterly unrewarded for our time in terms of progression.
i'd be fine with ultra slow progression if I was progressing through new and exciting content. You dont mind not progressing if your exploring entire new zones and doing stuff for the first time so much.
but everything i can possibly do in the game ive done so the rewards for choosing to do it again needs to be a satisfying amount of progression surely.
today i spent perhaps 1 hour plus maybe 30 mins to get a group doing a gold pledge. my xp bar was rewarded with 1% xp towards v13. so am i to do 100 dungeons to get from v12-13? a time investment of 150 hours for one lvl ????
what are you playing at ZOS.
if you think this shiz is gonna fly when you hit consoles you,re in for a fright.
PC MMO veterans have experienced grinds and maybe even some mad korean grind fests. but console games won,t buy into that and neither they should. it,s a joke and needs fixed bigtime.
you have a chance with the new systems to get folk back into your game but as it stands you srand to lose more folk than you gain by a vast amount.
so i come back to sample the new champion and justtice stuff. I think while getting champ points i can get to v14 on my toons and it,ll be refreshing.
here's the thing, while i was gone they removed the xp from almost every activity in the game. Well not removed but completely minimised it so nothing feels remotely rewarding for your time. pvp would take me till about XMAS to get one guy from v12-14 , ive done all the solo quests in the entire game. and they removed decent xp gains from delves or boss farming.
what is the reasoning behind this? If the objective is to stop folk progressing too much to fast then simply cap xp gains per week or something. i could then play for a couple of days per week hit the cap and play something else till it re-sets. like weekly dungeon timers.
as it stands it seems they want us to play all week but feel utterly unrewarded for our time in terms of progression.
i'd be fine with ultra slow progression if I was progressing through new and exciting content. You dont mind not progressing if your exploring entire new zones and doing stuff for the first time so much.
but everything i can possibly do in the game ive done so the rewards for choosing to do it again needs to be a satisfying amount of progression surely.
today i spent perhaps 1 hour plus maybe 30 mins to get a group doing a gold pledge. my xp bar was rewarded with 1% xp towards v13. so am i to do 100 dungeons to get from v12-13? a time investment of 150 hours for one lvl ????
what are you playing at ZOS.
if you think this shiz is gonna fly when you hit consoles you,re in for a fright.
PC MMO veterans have experienced grinds and maybe even some mad korean grind fests. but console games won,t buy into that and neither they should. it,s a joke and needs fixed bigtime.
you have a chance with the new systems to get folk back into your game but as it stands you srand to lose more folk than you gain by a vast amount.
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✭✭✭✭✭1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.----
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
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✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
Play what ? There's no new content for most of us . Some guys and ladies just aren't into role playing . PvP is a lag storm only ventured by the most die hard of competitive players with the patience of Jobe .4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
Most people who started at launch reached VR14 ages ago. It really isn't that hard.
More importantly, the veteran system is on the way out. Once the kinks in the Champion System are ironed out, it'll be gone.----
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
Most people who started at launch reached VR14 ages ago. It really isn't that hard.
More importantly, the veteran system is on the way out. Once the kinks in the Champion System are ironed out, it'll be gone.
it really wasnt that hard , it is now. i know exactly how easy it was with the boss grind. hell when v12 landed i managed to do the v10-12 in kardala in 3 hours before they fixed that, however to say its not that hard show you completely miss the point.
HARD isn't even a word for this context. nothing is hard about it, but is it fun enough versus time spent doing it?
no, the more repetative activities are in a game the more rewarding they need to be to compell folk to do it.
so since theres been no new content to do for ages they need to reward folk for persisting with repetitions of existing content.
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
Most people who started at launch reached VR14 ages ago. It really isn't that hard.
More importantly, the veteran system is on the way out. Once the kinks in the Champion System are ironed out, it'll be gone.
it really wasnt that hard , it is now. i know exactly how easy it was with the boss grind. hell when v12 landed i managed to do the v10-12 in kardala in 3 hours before they fixed that, however to say its not that hard show you completely miss the point.
HARD isn't even a word for this context. nothing is hard about it, but is it fun enough versus time spent doing it?
no, the more repetative activities are in a game the more rewarding they need to be to compell folk to do it.
so since theres been no new content to do for ages they need to reward folk for persisting with repetitions of existing content.
this is where they are failing in a monumental way.
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.----
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this i fear is the answer tbh. i fear you are indeed right, its a planned cynical move by zos to make it so slow you are tempted to pay for potions to make progression bearable....
i won't be doing that, i,ll uninstall it if it becomes that way.
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
Most people who started at launch reached VR14 ages ago. It really isn't that hard.
More importantly, the veteran system is on the way out. Once the kinks in the Champion System are ironed out, it'll be gone.
it really wasnt that hard , it is now. i know exactly how easy it was with the boss grind. hell when v12 landed i managed to do the v10-12 in kardala in 3 hours before they fixed that, however to say its not that hard show you completely miss the point.
HARD isn't even a word for this context. nothing is hard about it, but is it fun enough versus time spent doing it?
no, the more repetative activities are in a game the more rewarding they need to be to compell folk to do it.
so since theres been no new content to do for ages they need to reward folk for persisting with repetitions of existing content.
this is where they are failing in a monumental way.
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
ye sure,, i remember you from before man , you were ZOS's top forum apologist then and still now it would seem. Nothings ever wrong in your eyes. Zos have created a masterpiece and it,s everyone except you who just doesnt get it.......
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Zyle✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
Edited by Zyle on March 8, 2015 6:49PM
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✭✭✭✭✭everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
You'd be surprised how many MMO players disable xp altogether, they just want to do all the quests without out-levelling them and advance at their own pace. By the same token, a lot of players from launch aren't VR level yet or anywhere close. They don't see the need to get the whole game over just so they can complain about lack of content.Edited by Tandor on March 8, 2015 6:50PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?----
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✭everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
You'd be surprised how many MMO players disable xp altogether, they just want to do all the quests without out-levelling them and advance at their own pace. By the same token, a lot of players from launch aren't VR level yet or anywhere close. They don't see the need to get the whole game over just so they can complain about lack of content.
nobodys trying to get anything over, i enjoy questing , always have , but when was the last time they added some new quests for me to do?
add a new zone and i'd happily explore it for a while, doing nice new quests...... but there's no new stuff.
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Zyle✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?
So before I answer your question, lets try and answer mine.
"Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story."
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"what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?"
Are you agreeing that it is repetitive to do the same quests 8 times over?
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✭✭✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?
So before I answer your question, lets try and answer mine.
"Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story."
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"what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?"
Are you agreeing that it is repetitive to do the same quests 8 times over?
No, I was speaking to the act of leveling a character through questing. Actually doing the same thing 8 times in a row is repetitive, but this is why I asked what you expected. You're leveling an alt. That is, by its nature, a repetitive task.----
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Zyle✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?
So before I answer your question, lets try and answer mine.
"Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story."
---->
"what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?"
Are you agreeing that it is repetitive to do the same quests 8 times over?
No, I was speaking to the act of leveling a character through questing. Actually doing the same thing 8 times in a row is repetitive, but this is why I asked what you expected. You're leveling an alt. That is, by its nature, a repetitive task.
Your original advice to those who are looking for decent ways to get XP was to quest, that you never required any grind, and that questing isn't repetitive but could feel repetitive if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I then asked what about the people who have read and listened to all the quests. You then asked me what I expected? I expect that there are ways to gain decent XP than doing the same quests again..and again. Why? Because at that point I'm grinding for quest XP. It doesn't fix anything.
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JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?
In short; yes.
PvP should give decent XP.
People who wish to grind though to level characters should be allowed to. So long as they are not exploiting who cares if they reach the top level faster? Their characters won't be stronger for reaching it faster. They are inevitably gimping themselves for a while until they learn to play their toons. On top of that they have less skill points to spend so their toons *could* come off unfinished.
This is an open world MMO, the choice to play the way you want should be your choice so long as you aren't cheating. Simply not playing the quest (let's be honest not everyone does, or should be forced to, enjoy it) isn't an exploit or a cheat, it's a different way to play a game.Krojick, DC Sorc PC NA
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »1. Progression is only "ultra-slow" for the Champion System if you're playing 24/7.
2. Play the game. Earn XP. You don't need to "farm" anything.
3. This isn't a race. Unless you're really counting on keeping up your farming for a couple of years.
4. Play. The. Game.
i dont give a monkeys about CP rate tho i would like again to feel rewarded for my time, i'm talking about normal xp to get to v14. it's a joke
and don't say glib stuff like "play the game" like you'd be happy to pay zos and play for 2 years and not reach lvl 10.
everyone wants a decent amount of progression , to say otherwise is completely idiotic.
Most people who started at launch reached VR14 ages ago. It really isn't that hard.
More importantly, the veteran system is on the way out. Once the kinks in the Champion System are ironed out, it'll be gone.
it really wasnt that hard , it is now. i know exactly how easy it was with the boss grind. hell when v12 landed i managed to do the v10-12 in kardala in 3 hours before they fixed that, however to say its not that hard show you completely miss the point.
HARD isn't even a word for this context. nothing is hard about it, but is it fun enough versus time spent doing it?
no, the more repetative activities are in a game the more rewarding they need to be to compell folk to do it.
so since theres been no new content to do for ages they need to reward folk for persisting with repetitions of existing content.
this is where they are failing in a monumental way.
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
Questing is boring and repetitive, reading the stories makes it even more so. I can't believe Tamriel managed to get out of the second Era with all these helpless people waiting around for someone to lay the smack down.
On a serious note, the questing storylines are on par with a mediocre graphic novel. They might be good for a video game, but they're very poor for entertainment. Maybe after a partial lobotomy they might be more enjoyable. Just get me to "end game" so I can PvP, if I wanted to quest for 400 hours I would have bought a single player game.1 -
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They expected regular content updates, or just any kind of updates at a pace of one per 6-8 weeks (with acceptable minor delays).nerevarine1138 wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
I never did a boss grind while leveling. Or any kind of grind, really. Questing isn't repetitive, but it could feel that way if you don't read or listen to the quest story.
I'm currently leveling a templar through VR. It seems pretty much the same as it was when I was leveling my main. Just no exploits for grinders to powerlevel their characters.
What about the people who have done every quest...and read every quest...or listened to the whole quest story already? Do that 8 times over? I'm so fried with the same quests over and over again that it actually makes it worse to try and read or listen to them again.
I ask this as someone who also levels alts: what did you expect? 8 different ways to get to max level?
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C0pp3rhead✭✭✭✭firstdecan wrote: »Questing is boring and repetitive, reading the stories makes it even more so.
[T]he questing storylines are on par with a mediocre graphic novel. They might be good for a video game, but they're very poor for entertainment. ... if I wanted to quest for 400 hours I would have bought a single player game.
I agree with this sentiment. When you look at the big picture, many of the quests are the same: Go here, fight this person. Go there, collect that item. Just because they have different dialogue between the running and fetching doesn't make them engaging. Plus, the dialogue in this game is not well written nor well voiced (for the most part). The moral choices you have to make in this game are laughable. The "tough" decisions you have to make in this game have no consequences. You still get a useless reward, and no quest lines are closed nor new questlines opened depending on your "choices"."Things which are alike in nature grow to look alike, and the speaking stones have lain a long time lookin' at the sun. Some believe they descend with the lightning, but I believe they are on the ground and are projected downward by the bolt."
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✭✭✭✭✭C0pp3rhead wrote: »firstdecan wrote: »Questing is boring and repetitive, reading the stories makes it even more so.
[T]he questing storylines are on par with a mediocre graphic novel. They might be good for a video game, but they're very poor for entertainment. ... if I wanted to quest for 400 hours I would have bought a single player game.
I agree with this sentiment. When you look at the big picture, many of the quests are the same: Go here, fight this person. Go there, collect that item. Just because they have different dialogue between the running and fetching doesn't make them engaging. Plus, the dialogue in this game is not well written nor well voiced (for the most part). The moral choices you have to make in this game are laughable. The "tough" decisions you have to make in this game have no consequences. You still get a useless reward, and no quest lines are closed nor new questlines opened depending on your "choices".
I'll just say, "To each their own." But know that your opinion of the writing isn't shared by most people. Especially considering the scope of this game as an MMO, I found the quest and character writing to be absolutely superb.
As always, it'll be a matter of taste, but I find it difficult to believe you find the dialogue in this game to be "sub-par" if the par is determined by the average standard of video game writing.----
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✭✭✭WraithAzraiel wrote: »Hey guys, remember when they said the conversion from Veteran Points to Experience Points was going to make Veteran Leveling "faster"?
Don't remind me . I don't even look at Dev updates anymore . I wait 4-5 days and then read the credible player reports after its released .1 -
jeevin✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »C0pp3rhead wrote: »firstdecan wrote: »Questing is boring and repetitive, reading the stories makes it even more so.
[T]he questing storylines are on par with a mediocre graphic novel. They might be good for a video game, but they're very poor for entertainment. ... if I wanted to quest for 400 hours I would have bought a single player game.
I agree with this sentiment. When you look at the big picture, many of the quests are the same: Go here, fight this person. Go there, collect that item. Just because they have different dialogue between the running and fetching doesn't make them engaging. Plus, the dialogue in this game is not well written nor well voiced (for the most part). The moral choices you have to make in this game are laughable. The "tough" decisions you have to make in this game have no consequences. You still get a useless reward, and no quest lines are closed nor new questlines opened depending on your "choices".
I'll just say, "To each their own." But know that your opinion of the writing isn't shared by most people. Especially considering the scope of this game as an MMO, I found the quest and character writing to be absolutely superb.
As always, it'll be a matter of taste, but I find it difficult to believe you find the dialogue in this game to be "sub-par" if the par is determined by the average standard of video game writing.
The quests and writing are superb the first time through. Maybe even the second. A lot of the quests do become repetitive though and you do see the same template used over in different zones and factions.
When Zos is trying to make questing the only way to level it only puts a barrier between those who just want to reach endgame.0 -
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✭They want you to buy XP Potions in the Crown Store.
How is this not obvious to you?
The EXP pots we've seen are all of 10%. I understand the cynicism, but I'm not sure it's entirely justified.
Most of us have played a game where the Cash Shop got out of control. We know what that looks like. So far, at least, the Crown Shop looks nothing at all like its counterparts in AA, NWO or the other more offensive iterations. Before we assume the accounts are now wholly in charge over at ZOS, let's wait and see if that actually happens.
I'm actually optimistic on that front.Snit AD Sorc
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ZOS_ShannonM✭✭✭Hello folks,
We have been reading your concerns with the current issues with enlightenment, XP gain and champion points.
In an effort to consolidate the feedback for these current issues, we have created an official thread for you to discuss these issues, and ask that all further discussions happen there.
We would like to assure you that this is this is not to silence any feedback, and we welcome you to share all feedback with us, as long as it within the Code of Conduct.
Thank you for understanding.0
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