Xp question

Ashigaru
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After seeing how the xp has dropped either it be questing or grinding, i am just curios as to why it was lowered so much, is there an ulterior motive of selling xp pots or such in the store? From what i have seen its terrible, craglorn its almost non existent and the rest is on par, the only stuff that was giving decent xp has been ninja patched. So.... i was just curious :)
  • Halfwitte
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    Now we only be receiving enough enlightenment for one CP a day. Gaining anymore without Enlightenment will be close to gaining the equivalent of half of one veteran level a day when you consider the reduction in the amount of experience gained from killing monsters in Craglorn. They didn't even consider decreasing the difficulty while decreasing the amount of experience earned. All this is going to make it harder to level alts to vr14 status even with questing. Not everyone wants to go run Shada's Tear for experience which also has been nerfed. This has become more than frustrating and feels more like GW2 where they would nerf grind locations the moment they caught wind of it, but not so much for the experience gain instead for monetary gain, because you wouldn't have need of their gold store if you were farming the items instead of buying them for the hard to gain legendary items. It also feels like we won't have any leverage to complain once the subscription gets canned. Hate to play into their hand using crowns to buy EXP potions from the crown store. I find it hard to justify nerfing grind locations without a release of new quest lines for experience gain. Can only do the daily quests so often before you want to gouge your own eyes out.
  • Divad Zarn
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    well, receiving 100 XP for each mob.. thx ZOS, much appreciated, it was so happy to see players again have something to do in game, but now again.. only standing in city cuz its impossible to receive any progress with broken enlightment and totally broken XP. Big thx from old and loyal players.
  • DeLindsay
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    Ashigaru wrote: »
    After seeing how the xp has dropped either it be questing or grinding, i am just curios as to why it was lowered so much, is there an ulterior motive of selling xp pots or such in the store?
    There are 2 reasons for this:
    • Bads cry louder than good Players and they've demanded nerfs to Grinding since day 1.
    • ZoS is likely adding large XP Potions to the Crown Store "as a convenience" for all the XP they've been nerfing.
      • It's well known in the B2P/F2P gaming world that <5% of the population make up the majority of Cash Shop purchases and those folks have zero issue with P2W, because they have the money to do so.
  • Paulington
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    There are 2 reasons for this:
    • Bads cry louder than good Players and they've demanded nerfs to Grinding since day 1.
    • ZoS is likely adding large XP Potions to the Crown Store "as a convenience" for all the XP they've been nerfing.
      • It's well known in the B2P/F2P gaming world that <5% of the population make up the majority of Cash Shop purchases and those folks have zero issue with P2W, because they have the money to do so.

    Well when it comes to the part I highlighted (XP Pots) as far as I know ZOS haven't said they will add anything of the sort and to me just smacks of people making the worst of the situation. However what I do know is that ZOS have said the Crown Store will have two types of items, they are:

    Cosmetic: Such as mounts, costumes, pets and who knows maybe even cool effects like glowing hands or other such things.
    Convenience: Such as soul gems, potions, repair kits and other such things.

    Obviously the much prognosticated "XP Potions" would fall under the latter (Convenience) and that means they are subject to ZOS' entire philosophy for convenience items on the Crown Store which is people can spend real money to get said items right now if they wish but (very importantly) that nothing in the Crown Store, especially convenience items, will be unobtainable in game through normal gameplay and that the Crown Store versions must be worse than what players can craft for themselves in-game.

    So really, who cares? If they add XP pots the ethos of the Crown Store itself means they will also have to be player-craftable and vendor-purchasable in-game anyway so it gives no advantage to those buying from the Crown Store.

    I believe people are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion and are making a lot of bold promises given the thing in question hasn't even been released yet.
    Edited by Paulington on March 8, 2015 6:42AM
  • Garbrac
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    The intention of the Champion System is to have players progressing and growing their character over time. By time they do not mean a month. At the rate people were farming champion points the cap certainly would have been hit within the month. Which as I said is not the intention for the champion point.

    The best thing you can do is forget about trying to farm champion points, go about your business, play the game and enjoy it and every time you see that you gained a new champion point it'll be a nice little surprise.
  • Ashigaru
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    Garbrac wrote: »
    The intention of the Champion System is to have players progressing and growing their character over time. By time they do not mean a month. At the rate people were farming champion points the cap certainly would have been hit within the month. Which as I said is not the intention for the champion point.

    The best thing you can do is forget about trying to farm champion points, go about your business, play the game and enjoy it and every time you see that you gained a new champion point it'll be a nice little surprise.

    Not only about the champ system its all all xp. Run your dolums and your boss kills for a vet zone and get back with us about the xp. Just finished one tonight, pre xp change would have gotten at least 2 lvls, tonight clearing 4 zones netted 60% xp........

    This isnt a champ xp issue its all xp that is the issue right now.
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