What are you eso?

Thechemicals · March 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

The veteran community in eso is and will always be your last and most loyal customers.

Well isn't that an arrogant thing to say. Listen up, level-queen, I have NO characters at veteran level because I am enjoying the world and the immersion - flawed as it may be - it's still ES that I can share!

You are leaving and I am staying, what does that say about who is loyal

PS recently found an honest-to-god physical copy of the pre-order Edition (happy dance)!!

Good for you, i gave you an awesome badge. Im always impressed at players who can spend a year in a game without actually progressing in it. You think that the 3 months it took me to get v12 with my girlfriend is some kind of defect i have as a player, but i dont have anything bad to say about your playstyle. I can tell you this, there is much in eso i have not seen.

newtinmpls · March 2015

And if you really really took offense to that last post of mine, pretty please lighten up.

There are plenty of brands that are just as tasty without all the caffeine ... just sayin'

(points for anyone who gets that reference)

Roechacca · March 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

I have to say I disagree with the OP, especially in regards to TSW and Wildstar. If ESO isn't for you then it just isn't for you, and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel like the energy gone in to the thread could have been better used elsewhere, unless the entire point was a vent to randoms on the internet. I hope you find a game to enjoy if you are displeased with ESO, though I couldn't make the switch to TSW or Wildstar - they've been tried and found lacking.

I plan on staying and being a squeaky wheel . I absolutely love the game , just want it to get in a good running condition for everyone . I have less issues in game then others have reported but I can hear my friends groaning in frustration in voice chat when they get fed up . I hope Zenimax listens and works fast to fix these mechanics . The games only great for me if my friends stay this time . They came back in hopes this new system would bring the fixes and improvements ZOS claimed .

Inactive Account · March 2015

roechacca wrote: »

nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »

Regards to the OP,

After reading your comments above, it does seem that you are a very hard person to please. It would seem that no matter what you are ever involved in, will ever meet your standards.

You do have issues with E.S.O. and gave it a try, good on you. Hopefully the next game you buy/try will fulfill your needs.
You could always make your own MMO, you know, program it, market it, update it, fix the bugs in it, run a Forums page, Moderate the Forums page, and so on. Please feel free to come back to these forums when you have and let us all know about it.
I know I would enjoy it, for a while, then blast it on your forums page for not being what I want it to be.

my two cents.... well since we don't have pennies anymore here, I guess it's my nickel.

If I ever make a game I will encourage people to blast it on the forums so I can get a real genuine feel for how my customers react to changes . Then use that to my advantage by fixing it and giving out a customer service questionnaire after to see if I gave the best I could for their buck . But that's just my way of doing buisness ...

Good plan, but as long as you realize that you will never be able to please everyone at the same time.

You have stated that you have tried other games. Why? Is it because you want to try something new? Something that makes you explore different ways of doing things? Because that is what patch 1.6 in E.S.O. is.
It will most likely not be the last change that will occur. Much of what has changed in the game was brought forth by people other than you, for the same reason you state above.
This change obviously does not agree with you, but for many others, it does.
I am just showing you the other side of the coin that you are holding.

I never said any of that . My complaints have been customer service related not about the new update . The material is great , the bugs are terrible and sometimes game breaking but never one Hotfix implemented .

My last MMO I left because it closed . The rest I still have accounts on . Just because I think this guy or any person should have the right to blast something he doesn't like doesn't mean I agree with him . I'm just adult enough to know his opinion has nothing to do with mine .

Sorry for the confusion here. my quote was to the OP, but things got diverted to you by mistake. Appologies.

Roechacca · March 2015

nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »

Regards to the OP,

After reading your comments above, it does seem that you are a very hard person to please. It would seem that no matter what you are ever involved in, will ever meet your standards.

You do have issues with E.S.O. and gave it a try, good on you. Hopefully the next game you buy/try will fulfill your needs.
You could always make your own MMO, you know, program it, market it, update it, fix the bugs in it, run a Forums page, Moderate the Forums page, and so on. Please feel free to come back to these forums when you have and let us all know about it.
I know I would enjoy it, for a while, then blast it on your forums page for not being what I want it to be.

my two cents.... well since we don't have pennies anymore here, I guess it's my nickel.

If I ever make a game I will encourage people to blast it on the forums so I can get a real genuine feel for how my customers react to changes . Then use that to my advantage by fixing it and giving out a customer service questionnaire after to see if I gave the best I could for their buck . But that's just my way of doing buisness ...

Good plan, but as long as you realize that you will never be able to please everyone at the same time.

You have stated that you have tried other games. Why? Is it because you want to try something new? Something that makes you explore different ways of doing things? Because that is what patch 1.6 in E.S.O. is.
It will most likely not be the last change that will occur. Much of what has changed in the game was brought forth by people other than you, for the same reason you state above.
This change obviously does not agree with you, but for many others, it does.
I am just showing you the other side of the coin that you are holding.

I never said any of that . My complaints have been customer service related not about the new update . The material is great , the bugs are terrible and sometimes game breaking but never one Hotfix implemented .

My last MMO I left because it closed . The rest I still have accounts on . Just because I think this guy or any person should have the right to blast something he doesn't like doesn't mean I agree with him . I'm just adult enough to know his opinion has nothing to do with mine .

Sorry for the confusion here. my quote was to the OP, but things got diverted to you by mistake. Appologies.

Oh lol

Cool

Vizier · March 2015

Kewl Story Bro. :-/

TheBull · March 2015

lol OP said Wildstar.

glak · March 2015

roechacca wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

I have to say I disagree with the OP, especially in regards to TSW and Wildstar. If ESO isn't for you then it just isn't for you, and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel like the energy gone in to the thread could have been better used elsewhere, unless the entire point was a vent to randoms on the internet. I hope you find a game to enjoy if you are displeased with ESO, though I couldn't make the switch to TSW or Wildstar - they've been tried and found lacking.

I plan on staying and being a squeaky wheel . I absolutely love the game , just want it to get in a good running condition for everyone . I have less issues in game then others have reported but I can hear my friends groaning in frustration in voice chat when they get fed up . I hope Zenimax listens and works fast to fix these mechanics . The games only great for me if my friends stay this time . They came back in hopes this new system would bring the fixes and improvements ZOS claimed .

Same here, but my RL friends didn't come back yet. If they do, doesn't look promising that they will stay more than a week.

newtinmpls · March 2015

Thechemicals wrote: »

Good for you, i gave you an awesome badge. Im always impressed at players who can spend a year in a game without actually progressing in it.

Actually it's worse (or better) than you think. I have a character who is now 16th level, who has gone into Toothmaul gully .... err five times (absolutely no experience the last three times) because I the player wanted to play with folks who had never been (and were lower level). I found it very enjoyable ever time (man that place is lovely) but it's my high point of doing things for absolutely NO experience whatsoever.

And yes, I do agree that ESO has some service problems. Looks like they only exist to have created this game - Wiki makes it look like this was a "get a friend started in business" opportunity for someone with MMO experience. Now they are turning out to not be able to deal successfully with the fan base/modding community/ long time ES fans. I worry that this is the knell of doom.

I'm really worried about the long term effect of the F2P changes on that relationship - as I think that relationship will make or break the company (ultimately) and I worry that upper ESO management is deliberately blind to it. It's amazing how belittling and offensive some of the (presumably well-meant, or well-PR-intended) comments on ESO live actually are.

Fingers crossed.

Thechemicals · March 2015

I think to truly understand eso ands dismal direction you have to have a pretty good understanding of mmos through experience in having played more than a few mmos yourself and also, have some veterancy levels in eso and have had experienced some of the endgame of pve/pvp. Its great that a lot of you are not veterans after a year of the games release, but you are a very very small crowd. Even casuals ive know have gotten 2-3 veteran characters by now. You are in a class all by yourselves, but your sight of the games problems cant be seen. Out of sight out of mind isnt a fix, just avoidance of the truth....like that dying man they left alone in The beach.

riverdragon72 · March 2015

OP best post evar.

Roechacca · March 2015

Thechemicals wrote: »

I think to truly understand eso ands dismal direction you have to have a pretty good understanding of mmos through experience in having played more than a few mmos yourself and also, have some veterancy levels in eso and have had experienced some of the endgame of pve/pvp. Its great that a lot of you are not veterans after a year of the games release, but you are a very very small crowd. Even casuals ive know have gotten 2-3 veteran characters by now. You are in a class all by yourselves, but your sight of the games problems cant be seen. Out of sight out of mind isnt a fix, just avoidance of the truth....like that dying man they left alone in The beach.

Ya the old "I don't play that much so I don't see any problems ." approach . Or , "I've NEVER seen a bug or glitch in this game."

.... lol Ya ok ...

nimander99 · March 2015

OP wrote "...and ontop of that youll need to scale the newer system of champion as well."

Champion System is based on diminishing returns of percentage boost to stats, that means no scaling necessary, scaling is a by product of the number change (greater or smaller). Basically the system takes care of its self, which is most likely the reason they chose to go with percentage increases as opposed to hard number boosts to stats.

Thechemicals · March 2015

roechacca wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

I think to truly understand eso ands dismal direction you have to have a pretty good understanding of mmos through experience in having played more than a few mmos yourself and also, have some veterancy levels in eso and have had experienced some of the endgame of pve/pvp. Its great that a lot of you are not veterans after a year of the games release, but you are a very very small crowd. Even casuals ive know have gotten 2-3 veteran characters by now. You are in a class all by yourselves, but your sight of the games problems cant be seen. Out of sight out of mind isnt a fix, just avoidance of the truth....like that dying man they left alone in The beach.

Ya the old "I don't play that much so I don't see any problems ." approach . Or , "I've NEVER seen a bug or glitch in this game."

.... lol Ya ok ...

its a response to the old "you levelled too fast and thats why you arent having fun like me "the non-veteran" approach. To each his own, but everyone who is a vr14 right now is "by fact" more knowleagable of the games problems than anyone running around as a level 40 after a year of the games release. Thanks, but your looking at the wrong thing...me. You should be looking at the marketing approach, the console failure they will have, and the stiff clunky engine versus the amount of mmos soon to come in the next 1-2 years which will not be using clunky engines and taken themselves so seriously.

As far as wildstar. Its the best piece of crap mmo to play right now if you are just tired of seeing the same problems. The biggest complaint about wildstar is that there is a progression wall that you hit after max levelling. That isnt a big deal to me. I used to be a powergamer but now im casual, a very fast and keen one.

Bane_of_Fringe · March 2015

Thechemicals wrote: »

You would get defensive, you dont like what i have to say and you are upset because im a damper on your source of entertainment. Im only telling you that i have been involved in this game through forums, events, interviews, conventions, and have always put my heart into eso.It was never what many people wanted it to be and it still isnt what many who stuck around want it to be.

As far as the mmo market goes, yes it does have a lot of crap and eso is stnading on that hill of crap. That doesnt make it a gem. World of warcraft, even though i only played it 8 months is a gem despite its past its prime. Ultima online and dark age of cam were gems. Eso, is a brand carrying rich lore and imagination, but not much else.

No, you don't affect me whatsoever, and are by no means a damper on the game. I'm merely here by chance, figuring you'd be discussing the change that 1.6 was, and how a change so far from release/so close to console release could be a bad or good thing. Not my thread. You did invoke a smirk on my face with your statement on the types of people ESO attracts. Not the first time I've seen anybody post something similar though.

I personally never played Wildstar. There were probably hundreds of people that stated it would outshine ESO right about the time it was released. Heard it "busted" harder. You don't seem too easy to please, so I assume you'll be saying the same thing after awhile of that game, and the same after awhile of the EQ reboot.

Thechemicals · March 2015

Bane_of_Fringe wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

You would get defensive, you dont like what i have to say and you are upset because im a damper on your source of entertainment. Im only telling you that i have been involved in this game through forums, events, interviews, conventions, and have always put my heart into eso.It was never what many people wanted it to be and it still isnt what many who stuck around want it to be.

As far as the mmo market goes, yes it does have a lot of crap and eso is stnading on that hill of crap. That doesnt make it a gem. World of warcraft, even though i only played it 8 months is a gem despite its past its prime. Ultima online and dark age of cam were gems. Eso, is a brand carrying rich lore and imagination, but not much else.

No, you don't affect me whatsoever, and are by no means a damper on the game. I'm merely here by chance, figuring you'd be discussing the change that 1.6 was, and how a change so far from release/so close to console release could be a bad or good thing. Not my thread. You did invoke a smirk on my face with your statement on the types of people ESO attracts. Not the first time I've seen anybody post something similar though.

I personally never played Wildstar. There were probably hundreds of people that stated it would outshine ESO right about the time it was released. Heard it "busted" harder. You don't seem too easy to please, so I assume you'll be saying the same thing after awhile of that game, and the same after awhile of the EQ reboot.

come on, i shook you up. lol

BBSooner · March 2015

Thechemicals wrote: »

Bane_of_Fringe wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

You would get defensive, you dont like what i have to say and you are upset because im a damper on your source of entertainment. Im only telling you that i have been involved in this game through forums, events, interviews, conventions, and have always put my heart into eso.It was never what many people wanted it to be and it still isnt what many who stuck around want it to be.

As far as the mmo market goes, yes it does have a lot of crap and eso is stnading on that hill of crap. That doesnt make it a gem. World of warcraft, even though i only played it 8 months is a gem despite its past its prime. Ultima online and dark age of cam were gems. Eso, is a brand carrying rich lore and imagination, but not much else.

No, you don't affect me whatsoever, and are by no means a damper on the game. I'm merely here by chance, figuring you'd be discussing the change that 1.6 was, and how a change so far from release/so close to console release could be a bad or good thing. Not my thread. You did invoke a smirk on my face with your statement on the types of people ESO attracts. Not the first time I've seen anybody post something similar though.

I personally never played Wildstar. There were probably hundreds of people that stated it would outshine ESO right about the time it was released. Heard it "busted" harder. You don't seem too easy to please, so I assume you'll be saying the same thing after awhile of that game, and the same after awhile of the EQ reboot.

come on, i shook you up. lol

Not sure how the thread benefits from you insisting on that point.

Gidorick · March 2015

glak wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

I have to say I disagree with the OP, especially in regards to TSW and Wildstar. If ESO isn't for you then it just isn't for you, and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel like the energy gone in to the thread could have been better used elsewhere, unless the entire point was a vent to randoms on the internet. I hope you find a game to enjoy if you are displeased with ESO, though I couldn't make the switch to TSW or Wildstar - they've been tried and found lacking.

I plan on staying and being a squeaky wheel . I absolutely love the game , just want it to get in a good running condition for everyone . I have less issues in game then others have reported but I can hear my friends groaning in frustration in voice chat when they get fed up . I hope Zenimax listens and works fast to fix these mechanics . The games only great for me if my friends stay this time . They came back in hopes this new system would bring the fixes and improvements ZOS claimed .

Same here, but my RL friends didn't come back yet. If they do, doesn't look promising that they will stay more than a week.

None of my RL friends play games. They're either non-gamers or their spouses "won't let them" lol!

rhubbert_ESO · March 2015

Try listening to "Tears from Heaven" while reading this post

Roechacca · March 2015

Thechemicals wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

I think to truly understand eso ands dismal direction you have to have a pretty good understanding of mmos through experience in having played more than a few mmos yourself and also, have some veterancy levels in eso and have had experienced some of the endgame of pve/pvp. Its great that a lot of you are not veterans after a year of the games release, but you are a very very small crowd. Even casuals ive know have gotten 2-3 veteran characters by now. You are in a class all by yourselves, but your sight of the games problems cant be seen. Out of sight out of mind isnt a fix, just avoidance of the truth....like that dying man they left alone in The beach.

Ya the old "I don't play that much so I don't see any problems ." approach . Or , "I've NEVER seen a bug or glitch in this game."

.... lol Ya ok ...

its a response to the old "you levelled too fast and thats why you arent having fun like me "the non-veteran" approach. To each his own, but everyone who is a vr14 right now is "by fact" more knowleagable of the games problems than anyone running around as a level 40 after a year of the games release. Thanks, but your looking at the wrong thing...me. You should be looking at the marketing approach, the console failure they will have, and the stiff clunky engine versus the amount of mmos soon to come in the next 1-2 years which will not be using clunky engines and taken themselves so seriously.

As far as wildstar. Its the best piece of crap mmo to play right now if you are just tired of seeing the same problems. The biggest complaint about wildstar is that there is a progression wall that you hit after max levelling. That isnt a big deal to me. I used to be a powergamer but now im casual, a very fast and keen one.

I was agreeing with your last post not looking at you . Reading back I guess it was ambiguous .

cyqa · March 2015

I've enjoyed reading your posts on the forum OP, sad to see you go.