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1.6.5 - Sorc you thought it couldn't get any worse? It has...
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Note the items listed in bold please.
Well Unstable Familiar, well any Summon in PVP now is totally useless for sure, before it was iffy, but now..forget about it...1.3 second cast time for a 35% heal...yeah good luck with that.
Rebate looks like a total joke now, since it no longer scales off your max magicka, the return will be much much less.
Overload took another damage scaling nerf from 3% to 1%....they must really want this Ultimate to be useless too. its bad enough what they done to Negate.
Of course we got the Expert Mage nerf which IMO may be the biggest nerf this class has ever taken since cost reductions are additive, we lost a huge cost reduction on Storm Calling for a nearly useless increase in spell power....gotta love it eh? Look on the brightside i can still stack sheilds..wait? they nerfed those too....
Unstable Familiar
This ability now heals the caster for 35% of their maximum health when the familiar is killed or toggled off.
This ability now has a cast time of 1.3 seconds.
Storm Calling
Overload
Reduced the initial cost of Overload and its morphs to 75 Ultimate from 125 Ultimate.
Increased the damage of Overload light attacks by 50%.
Reduced the rank up bonus damage for this ability from 3% to 1%.
Overload and Power Overload will now properly scale their damage off Weapon Damage and Stamina in the event that they are higher than Spell Power and Magicka.
Daedric Summoning
Rebate: Fixed an issue where this ability was not restoring magicka when a Daedric pet was de-summoned or died, and the magicka restore from this passive now scales with your level instead of your maximum magicka.
Storm Calling
Expert Mage: This passive ability has been changed. It now grants 2% Spell Power for each Sorcerer ability slotted instead of 10% reduced cost to lightning spells.
Well Unstable Familiar, well any Summon in PVP now is totally useless for sure, before it was iffy, but now..forget about it...1.3 second cast time for a 35% heal...yeah good luck with that.
Rebate looks like a total joke now, since it no longer scales off your max magicka, the return will be much much less.
Overload took another damage scaling nerf from 3% to 1%....they must really want this Ultimate to be useless too. its bad enough what they done to Negate.
Of course we got the Expert Mage nerf which IMO may be the biggest nerf this class has ever taken since cost reductions are additive, we lost a huge cost reduction on Storm Calling for a nearly useless increase in spell power....gotta love it eh? Look on the brightside i can still stack sheilds..wait? they nerfed those too....
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Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak
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Lhorion✭✭✭✭✭Oh I forgot: Sorc is a bad class! They can just shield stack (surviving) and bursting at the same time. Really bad!
And the damage nerf from overload.... Yes... This will make you useless!3 -
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✭✭✭✭Oh I forgot: Sorc is a bad class! They can just shield stack (surviving) and bursting at the same time. Really bad!
And the damage nerf from overload.... Yes... This will make you useless!
Shield stacking is countered by CC you know that right?
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RinaldoGandolphi - High Elf Sorcerer Aldmeri Dominion
Officer Fire and Ice
Co-GM - MVP
Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak0 -
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✭just to be clear, they had to put a cast time on the familiar thing... you realize how broken it would have been otherwise? It would have made battle roar look like a joke.
The game has changed radically... how bout before everyone cries doom and gloom you know... maybe play the game? Try things out and see?Edited by Huntler on March 3, 2015 9:46PM4 -
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Well Volatile Familiar was the only useful AoE for Sorcs.Oh I forgot: Sorc is a bad class! They can just shield stack (surviving) and bursting at the same time. Really bad!
And the damage nerf from overload.... Yes... This will make you useless!
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JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭Given that unstable familiar and dragon blood now both heal for 30% (ish) I wonder whether they will give dragon blood a timer too... food for thought
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✭✭✭✭✭My poor sorc, he gave up after reading the 1.6.5 notes, enough is enough I guess. *sigh*
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30k DPS with Lightning Splash is no AoE, right!
@woodsro Sure if you have CC no enemie can do shield stacking! Do you believe that? You can shield stack, breack CC, shield stack, and so on. Actually CC has nothing to do with shield stacking.
That was a bug that was fixed in 1.6.5.
We'll probably be hearing about this amazing AoE ability we have from people for the next 3 months now....Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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30k DPS with Lightning Splash is no AoE, right!
@woodsro Sure if you have CC no enemie can do shield stacking! Do you believe that? You can shield stack, breack CC, shield stack, and so on. Actually CC has nothing to do with shield stacking.
that got fixed. it now has its proper 1-1.3k dps to not dethrone DKs...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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Lhorion✭✭✭✭✭Even if it is fixed sorc is still very strong. No reason to complain.
P.S.: Okay some guys changed from DK to sorc because DK got nerfed so hard. It seems they cannot handle with any kind of sorc nerf^^0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Over the last month or so we have had people all use the following argument: Sorcs don't need fixes because...- "Sorcs are such a powerful class they have Negate" - Negate gets nerfed
- "Sorcs are such a powerful class they have damage shields" - Damage shields get nerfed
- "Sorcs are still OP, they have overload" - I see what you are trying to do now STOP.
Whatever sorc ability gets nerfed, you pick a new one and hold it up on a pedestal as what is supposed to save the entire class.
The anti-sorc astroturfing is so strong on this forum that someone created a whole thread about how the familiar heal is going to be better than DK Green Dragon Blood. They fail to mention how much health (and thus loss of DPS) you have to stack for that to happen.
Now all pets, even ones that don't heal, have a cast time and are unusable as battlefield weapons. You can't channel something for 1.3s with snipes flying around.
I understand that many people are heavily invested in their DKs but this constant repetition of erroneous info about sorcs in every sorc thread is getting ridiculous.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 4, 2015 12:36AM8 -
JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Over the last month or so we have had people all use the following argument: Sorcs don't need fixes because...
- "Sorcs are such a powerful class they have Negate" - Negate gets nerfed
- "Sorcs are such a powerful class they have damage shields" - Damage shields get nerfed
- "Sorcs are still OP, they have overload" - I see what you are trying to do now STOP.
Whatever sorc ability gets nerfed, you pick a new one and hold it up on a pedestal as what is supposed to save the entire class.
The anti-sorc astroturfing is so strong on this forum that someone created a whole thread about how the familiar heal is going to be better than DK Green Dragon Blood. They fail to mention how much health (and thus loss of DPS) you have to stack for that to happen.
Now all pets, even ones that don't heal, have a cast time and are unusable as battlefield weapons. You can't channel something for 1.3s with snipes flying around.
I understand that many people are heavily invested in their DKs but this constant repetition of erroneous info about sorcs in every sorc thread is getting ridiculous.
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Lhorion✭✭✭✭✭Damage shields are nerfed, but they are still strong and more important than in 1.5.
Overload is nerfed, yes. But it is such a little number!
Sorcs can put all things into magica. Their shields will be awesome and their damage, too. No other class can do this.
I am not whining about OP-sorcs, I just say: You cannot complain.
Btw there are some sorcs that think they are OP, strange.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Damage shields are nerfed, but they are still strong and more important than in 1.5.
Overload is nerfed, yes. But it is such a little number!
Sorcs can put all things into magica. Their shields will be awesome and their damage, too. No other class can do this.
I am not whining about OP-sorcs, I just say: You cannot complain.
Btw there are some sorcs that think they are OP, strange.
No other class has a powerful damage shield... No other class can spec into magicka... REALLY? Are you even trying m8?
Besides being helplessly incorrect, you are missing the point.
The argument sorcs are making: Sorc's have some fundamental problems as a class that are holding them back in terms of synergies, utility, and survivability.
The counterargument: No, sorcs are fine because they have [insert whatever build or skills you currently think is powerful and about to get nerfed]
One powerful build or one powerful situational skill does not make the class fine.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 4, 2015 1:17AM7 -
Lhorion✭✭✭✭✭Sorc shield is the only class shield scaled with macica. Sorry that you did not know this. Max magica will give the sorc great survive and damage at the same time.
This and the fact magica is INcreased with pets let me and some not whining sorcs think the class is fine.
Great damage.
Great macica scaled shield.
Great escape.
All I want to say: No broken class.0 -
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✭Sorc shield is the only class shield scaled with macica. Sorry that you did not know this. Max magica will give the sorc great survive and damage at the same time.
This and the fact magica is INcreased with pets let me and some not whining sorcs think the class is fine.
Great damage.
Great macica scaled shield.
Great escape.
All I want to say: No broken class.
Although I may not entirely agree with your post, I do believe people need to learn to adapt and create other builds. I have a sorc and I'm so looking forward to trying out what builds i can create. Daedric Summoning skill line was completely useless with passives that wouldn't even apply to the only two good skills (ward, curse). I'm interested in trying out a tank build now that pets have a "usefulness" to them.0 -
ZOS_ShannonM✭✭✭Hello folks,
We see that there is a lot of feedback on sorcerers so we are closing this thread so that we can consolidate all the feedback in one place. Please visit this thread for any feedback on sorcerers. This will allow the feedback to reach the devs in a single place. As always we appreciate all feedback, good and bad, but ask that you keep your posts civil, constructive, and on topic.
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