When will the vet levels be gone so I can play again?
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dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So basically, OP, you don't want to grind a new toon to veteran ranks on the AD side because that's where your guild is and you started a new character there. Sure, we'll remove veteran ranks and change the entire game just for you....1 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭Psychotius wrote: »inb4V28
Why do you think they will abscond with the Veteran system?
They stated months ago that phase 4 of the champion system is to nix the vet levels leaving 50 as the cap. 1.6 is phase 3.1 -
Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes the leveling takes forever to get from V1 to V14 and is absolutely pointless, which makes the game zero fun for me. Until they fix this I will not be playing this game anymore, which sucks because I really enjoy the game.
1,000,000 xp doesn't take as long as you'd think. But, I cant understand the frustration, a lot of my guild mates left after feeling like they had to grind too much.
VR levels won't be removed anytime soon, you're looking at at least 4th Quarter of this year in my humble opinion.0 -
ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭While ZOS says they will be removed eventually after console launch, I'm inclined to think they will end up not removing them. I make this argument based on:- ZOS's history of backtracking and withholding changes to the game
- their new need to sell "convenience" things in the Crown Store (it helps to have grinds like the Vet System so you can sell people the means to speed through it)
- the fact that there are new V10 recipes
- the fact that some parts of the Champion System constellations use Vet Ranks in calculating values
Given these things, I would in fact be very surprised if they removed Vet Ranks. I would be even MORE surprised if they managed to do it without yet again screwing over long-term players.Edited by ThatNeonZebraAgain on March 3, 2015 4:09PMGore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
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gard✭✭✭✭✭I meant grinding mobs btw not questing. Grinding mobs is way faster
Seems kinda bass-ackwards.
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spryler✭✭✭Perhaps you're thinking of this the wrong way. True as a V1 you will not be able to do most raids. But you get a double bonus when you gain xp -
1) Gain in Veteran levels - increasing stats mildly (still get a stat point per level right?), allow you to wear higher level gear, and allow you to gain entry into raids
2) Gain Champion points - increasing the power of your character.
So essentially if you "grind" or "level" or whatever you are getting a lot of bang for your buck!0 -
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✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »While ZOS says they will be removed eventually after console launch, I'm inclined to think they will end up not removing them. I make this argument based on:- ZOS's history of backtracking and withholding changes to the game
- their new need to sell "convenience" things in the Crown Store (it helps to have grinds like the Vet System so you can sell people the means to speed through it)
- the fact that there are new V10 recipes
- the fact that some parts of the Champion System constellations use Vet Ranks in calculating values
Given these things, I would in fact be very surprised if they removed Vet Ranks. I would be even MORE surprised if they managed to do it without yet again screwing over long-term players.
I agree with this 100 %.
I'm also betting that we never see the removal of the Vet ranks.0 -
Anvos✭✭✭The main answer appears to be unsure to maybe never as while stage 4 is supposed to remove vet levels stage 4 doesn't have a specific timeline and ZOS seems to have stated that the first single player adventure zone and imperial city are the next priorities after console launch I believe.
Also removing vet levels seems to accomplish nothing while requiring ZOS to invent a new system for gear/crafting progression. (not to mention if you remove vet it doesn't change or maybe makes worse the difference between low and high cp)0 -
Francescolg✭✭✭✭I don't want to level to V14 only to have it taken away from me when
Sincerely guy
you are right but you see the things from the wrong perspective, that should be (related to the quote):
"I don't want to level to VR 14 till 1.6. because I'll get no reward in CP points for questing till then! (of course, already having a VR 14)
Vr 1 to 14 has become totally unimportant: people care much more about the VR-XP not being transformed into CP. (you'll not get more than 70 CP until the patch goes live, even if you have 5 VR 14 twinks you'll get 70 CP)
NOBODY is any longer interested in VR 1 or 14. WE ALL WANT MORE CP, WE ALL START leveling after level 50 when we are sure that our XP/Quests/etc. etc. will be converted into CP.
VR doesn't matter at all in the current sitiuation. What counts are CP, and more CP, and more CP,..
Edited by Francescolg on March 3, 2015 4:53PM0 -
vovus69✭✭✭✭vet levels with us for long long time. Probably they will never be gone."If I'll need your opinion, I'll give one to you" - Rivenspire1
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Psychotius✭✭✭Psychotius wrote: »inb4V28
Why do you think they will abscond with the Veteran system?
They stated months ago that phase 4 of the champion system is to nix the vet levels leaving 50 as the cap. 1.6 is phase 3.
Thanks! Must have been during my absence from the scene or possibly during a catatonic state.I'm not as am as you drunk I think.0 -
Honestly, I dont think it will be removed like you think it will. Just the textual VRx will be.
What this means is that either they will announce, hey, we decided that max level will now be level 65 (extra one thrown in for new content combination or rounding).
or
They will make the gear, items and levels be level 50 again, but your toon does not change any stats - I e textual you are 50, but all your data points do not change.
Think about, why will there be now VR10 food, pots etc. and why would they roll back the power of all toons, gear etc by 30% ?Astaria DødfurstinnaOfficial Hunter Community Lead DAOC(Pendragon Beta through Catacombs release)Look at this but dont QQ: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/hfxYcf3 -
McDoogs✭✭✭✭Cyberbodhi wrote: »
You do grind the wrong mobs. I went vr1-14 in a matter of a few days purely grinding overland mobs. Unfortunately, ZOS nerfed all the Craglorn mob XP, so now you have to grind solely in the vr1-10 zones to do it effectively0 -
ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭Cyberbodhi wrote: »
You do grind the wrong mobs. I went vr1-14 in a matter of a few days purely grinding overland mobs. Unfortunately, ZOS nerfed all the Craglorn mob XP, so now you have to grind solely in the vr1-10 zones to do it effectively
I thought they only nerfed Spellscar?
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✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »Cyberbodhi wrote: »
You do grind the wrong mobs. I went vr1-14 in a matter of a few days purely grinding overland mobs. Unfortunately, ZOS nerfed all the Craglorn mob XP, so now you have to grind solely in the vr1-10 zones to do it effectively
I thought they only nerfed Spellscar?
nope, its just the most significant nerf, as on top of the general nerf its respawn values got adjustet additionaly.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »Cyberbodhi wrote: »
You do grind the wrong mobs. I went vr1-14 in a matter of a few days purely grinding overland mobs. Unfortunately, ZOS nerfed all the Craglorn mob XP, so now you have to grind solely in the vr1-10 zones to do it effectively
I thought they only nerfed Spellscar?
nope, its just the most significant nerf, as on top of the general nerf its respawn values got adjustet additionaly.
Ah I see. Well now I'm even more glad I grinded the hell of out it leveling up all the skills and weapons I want for 1.6!
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Exstazik✭✭✭✭If you think v1 to v14 feels endless... How About 0 CP to 3200 CP. Its 1000x The latter
That is true, however at V14 I can do all the end game stuff, at V1 I can't do much of anything so the cp may take longer but at least i will be able to enjoy the end game stuff with everyone else and not bore myself to death with these horrid quest zones that they have.
End game stuff will be wider.It will require certain amount of CP to close it.So if you think that after vet levels will be gone and you will be able to do all content with 100 CP you're wrong.
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I am wondering when Veteran levels will be removed from the game? I feel that the game is broken and unplayable right now because I don't want to level to V14 only to have it taken away from me when they decide to remove Veteran levels. I have not played the game in a month or two because all of my characters are at max level of 50 (currently V1). I think they really dropped the ball by dropping 1.6 before taking out Veteran levels. If they plan on removing it then they should just allow us to skip to V14 when we reach lvl 50 and be done with it while they are waiting to take it away, to me the game would actually be playable then.
Getting EXP is not pointless because you are trying to raise your champion levels nows. So weather Vets levels are there or not it does not matter because your still getting exp for Champ levels0 -
LordSkyKnight wrote: »Honest question. Why are you even playing an MMO if you don't like leveling at all? That is the core feature of MMOs. They put hurdles in the game to slow you down to keep on playing and paying.
This is a rather silly question/comment ppl keep making not just you. I don't like the boring, endless, monotonous, mind numbing, questing or grinding to be v14 and equivalent to most other pvpers in cyro. I like pvp this means I do like mmos even though i DONT like the leveling from v1 to v14. Once you do it once why as a paying subscriber should we have to do it again and agian. It is more likely to make me leave than stay.Edited by Sir_Highfield on April 12, 2015 11:05AM1 -
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✭Sir_Highfield wrote: »LordSkyKnight wrote: »Honest question. Why are you even playing an MMO if you don't like leveling at all? That is the core feature of MMOs. They put hurdles in the game to slow you down to keep on playing and paying.
This is a rather silly question/comment ppl keep making not just you. I don't like the boring, endless, monotonous, mind numbing, questing or grinding to be v14 and equivalent to most other pvpers in cyro. I like pvp this means I do like mmos even though i DONT like the leveling from v1 to v14. Once you do it once why as a paying subscriber should we have to do it again and agian. It is more likely to make me leave than stay.
than this game is not for you with the implemented 1440 vet ranks the CPs system resembles ...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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McGordon✭✭✭What if they will remove vet levels? You think that at your lvl 50 with bad armor you will be good at pvp? NO! If they will remove vet levels, there will be something else. You still will need to do PVM. So stop cry, finally get some normal gear, build and do it. In a week playing less than 1 hour I have got +2vet levels. I dont have a lot of time too, but slowly slowly I will reach v14.Edited by McGordon on April 12, 2015 11:15AM0
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Wolfshead✭✭✭✭martinfriskb16_ESO wrote: »I honestly doubt VR will ever be fully removed.
I think we will have VR system in game for think of how much work it will be to redo all VR zone, VR reward gear, VR mobs, VR dungeons, raids it is way to much work for any mmo company basically what will mean is total redo the whole game more or else.If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
Haqikah✭✭✭In the ESO Live show of Friday 10th April ZoS acknowledged that at some point the veteran ranks will be removed, unfortunately there is no release date set yet for this.
As many others have stated, most likely it will be at least a few months after console release before the veteran ranks are removed.
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think people are dreaming if you think they will actually follow through on removing vet ranks. So let me understand this. We are going to let console players for months work on their characters only to nerf them all back to level 50 and take away all their progress. Nevermind the PC people who yet again instead of getting content get another game subsystem revamp. Third one now with nothing but craglorn in a year.
If they do that might as well polish up the old resume because this game will be closing up shop.2
