I did not read the entire text. normally i would, but im on a time constraint atm:(
yes a tanky DK DPS is very possible, the DK does that roll better than any other class atm.
I cant tell you which exact abilities to use, but you want to be in most-all light armor, and make heavy use of block casting
course, that's for the game as it is now.
in update 1.6, which is less than a month away, the game is completely changing, and all the good builds will be obsolete. wait until 1.6 before making a build.
@ValeriusMede, I have a couple of questions:
1. Do you prefer PvE or PvP mostly? builds vary drastically
2. Would you prefer melee or ranged DPS? the v1.5.x hates melee dps, v1.6.x gets better for it
3. Are you looking to be min/maxed or dead set on a tank/dps hybrid?
Having this info would better help to get you a build that works with your playstyle.
Happy Hunting!
First off I just want to say that what I write is my opinion and what works for me. There are people that do a lot more detailed study of numbers that could probably give you a better answer.
Attribute points should all be in one category. The way I do it is all in magicka if I'm magicka dps, all in stamina if I'm stamina dps even tank dps, and all in health if I'm making a pure tank. Since you want to melee I would suggest stamina and focus your dps abilities as stamina abilities. Save magicka for buffs and heals. Put all your enchants into stamina, stamina ability cost reduction, or weapon power. This should max out your stamina dps. And maybe even switch to medium armor unless you are dead set on using heavy. But medium will further increase your stamina dps.
Sword and shield is good for one of the bars but it isn't the greatest dps. I would put a 2 hander or duel wield on the other for better dps. You can run a dps bar and a tanking bar.
Things to have on your bars are crowd control, single target dps, aoe dps, buffs, debuffs, and heals. I know it is hard to get all that on there and you will have to make some sacrifices. I have different setups depending on what I'm doing, PVP, solo PVE, group PVE dps, group PVE heals, etc.
I hope this helps and half the fun is figuring it out.
If you want to get fancy and money isn't an issue, this is my PvE tank set up, can pull about 200-600 Single Target DPS and 1.2k-2k AoE DPS depending on the situation. It's got decent Magicka management, and Stamina isn't a problem, my DK is an Imperial as well, you may need to keep Magic Potions or Tripots on hand for when situations get really bad, otherwise it's self-sustainable.
5 Set Hist Bark - Heavy Armor enchanted with Health.
4 Set Magnus's Gift - 2 Pieces of Light Armor, Sword/Shield, Armor enchanted with Magicka, Sword with Disease, Shield with Stamina.
3 Set Footman's Fortunes - Jewelry, Enchant your rings with Reduce Spell Cost, and your necklace with Spell Damage.
First Bar:
Taunt - Burning Embers - Engulfing Flames - Coagulating Blood - Razor Armor - Magma Shell
Second Bar:
Draw Essence - Choking Talons - Cinder Storm - Flame Lash - Spell Symmetry - Fercious Leap
Attributes are 30 Magicka 16 Health 16 Stamina.
I don't use Magnus's gift, I use Warlock, but I don't recommend that set anymore because the Signets of the Warlock are practically nonexistent these days and they cost 250-400k, but this is the build I use in Veteran Dungeons when I have to tank, otherwise I just run through them with my PvP build for fun.
ValeriusMede wrote: »First off I just want to say that what I write is my opinion and what works for me. There are people that do a lot more detailed study of numbers that could probably give you a better answer.
Attribute points should all be in one category. The way I do it is all in magicka if I'm magicka dps, all in stamina if I'm stamina dps even tank dps, and all in health if I'm making a pure tank. Since you want to melee I would suggest stamina and focus your dps abilities as stamina abilities. Save magicka for buffs and heals. Put all your enchants into stamina, stamina ability cost reduction, or weapon power. This should max out your stamina dps. And maybe even switch to medium armor unless you are dead set on using heavy. But medium will further increase your stamina dps.
Sword and shield is good for one of the bars but it isn't the greatest dps. I would put a 2 hander or duel wield on the other for better dps. You can run a dps bar and a tanking bar.
Things to have on your bars are crowd control, single target dps, aoe dps, buffs, debuffs, and heals. I know it is hard to get all that on there and you will have to make some sacrifices. I have different setups depending on what I'm doing, PVP, solo PVE, group PVE dps, group PVE heals, etc.
I hope this helps and half the fun is figuring it out.
If you want to get fancy and money isn't an issue, this is my PvE tank set up, can pull about 200-600 Single Target DPS and 1.2k-2k AoE DPS depending on the situation. It's got decent Magicka management, and Stamina isn't a problem, my DK is an Imperial as well, you may need to keep Magic Potions or Tripots on hand for when situations get really bad, otherwise it's self-sustainable.
5 Set Hist Bark - Heavy Armor enchanted with Health.
4 Set Magnus's Gift - 2 Pieces of Light Armor, Sword/Shield, Armor enchanted with Magicka, Sword with Disease, Shield with Stamina.
3 Set Footman's Fortunes - Jewelry, Enchant your rings with Reduce Spell Cost, and your necklace with Spell Damage.
First Bar:
Taunt - Burning Embers - Engulfing Flames - Coagulating Blood - Razor Armor - Magma Shell
Second Bar:
Draw Essence - Choking Talons - Cinder Storm - Flame Lash - Spell Symmetry - Fercious Leap
Attributes are 30 Magicka 16 Health 16 Stamina.
I don't use Magnus's gift, I use Warlock, but I don't recommend that set anymore because the Signets of the Warlock are practically nonexistent these days and they cost 250-400k, but this is the build I use in Veteran Dungeons when I have to tank, otherwise I just run through them with my PvP build for fun.
Ah yeah, footman's gear is V12-V14 only, if you don't have light armor I'd make it heavy, as you still get the set bonus. It won't help you now, but in about a week, week n a half, I get a new computer so I can craft whatever you need at no cost, there's no bonus for using light armor without the passives, the only reason I do is because the two passives I have in light armor reduce the cost of spells and increases magicka recovery.ValeriusMede wrote: »Thank you!
So it turned out I didn't have enough traits to craft the entire hist bark set, but I crafted a sword, the cuirass, the greaves, and the pauldron. Now I'm browsing through various guild traders to try and find some of the other items you listed. I found a focus of the warlock for 1.2k but, as you said might be the case, I can't find the signet. I haven't found any of the footsman's fortunes items yet.
You recommended light armor for Magnus' Gift; since my light armor skill is practically nonexistent, should I just try and craft the heavy pieces instead? I imagine that your set is structured as such to get the most out of whatever light armor passives you've unlocked, but since I don't have any light armor skill, should I just go for the heavy or is there a definite benefit to going with light armor for the Magnus set?
EDIT - Managed to find the Signet of the Warlock but it's listed at 20k, so I probably won't be making that purchase. Found some footsman's items but they were VR12 and similarly priced.
Ah yeah, footman's gear is V12-V14 only, if you don't have light armor I'd make it heavy, as you still get the set bonus. It won't help you now, but in about a week, week n a half, I get a new computer so I can craft whatever you need at no cost, there's no bonus for using light armor without the passives, the only reason I do is because the two passives I have in light armor reduce the cost of spells and increases magicka recovery.ValeriusMede wrote: »Thank you!
So it turned out I didn't have enough traits to craft the entire hist bark set, but I crafted a sword, the cuirass, the greaves, and the pauldron. Now I'm browsing through various guild traders to try and find some of the other items you listed. I found a focus of the warlock for 1.2k but, as you said might be the case, I can't find the signet. I haven't found any of the footsman's fortunes items yet.
You recommended light armor for Magnus' Gift; since my light armor skill is practically nonexistent, should I just try and craft the heavy pieces instead? I imagine that your set is structured as such to get the most out of whatever light armor passives you've unlocked, but since I don't have any light armor skill, should I just go for the heavy or is there a definite benefit to going with light armor for the Magnus set?
EDIT - Managed to find the Signet of the Warlock but it's listed at 20k, so I probably won't be making that purchase. Found some footsman's items but they were VR12 and similarly priced.
None that I can name off the top of my head, I could be wrong though... Can check This Site but I'm not sure how up to date it is either.ValeriusMede wrote: »Ah yeah, footman's gear is V12-V14 only, if you don't have light armor I'd make it heavy, as you still get the set bonus. It won't help you now, but in about a week, week n a half, I get a new computer so I can craft whatever you need at no cost, there's no bonus for using light armor without the passives, the only reason I do is because the two passives I have in light armor reduce the cost of spells and increases magicka recovery.ValeriusMede wrote: »Thank you!
So it turned out I didn't have enough traits to craft the entire hist bark set, but I crafted a sword, the cuirass, the greaves, and the pauldron. Now I'm browsing through various guild traders to try and find some of the other items you listed. I found a focus of the warlock for 1.2k but, as you said might be the case, I can't find the signet. I haven't found any of the footsman's fortunes items yet.
You recommended light armor for Magnus' Gift; since my light armor skill is practically nonexistent, should I just try and craft the heavy pieces instead? I imagine that your set is structured as such to get the most out of whatever light armor passives you've unlocked, but since I don't have any light armor skill, should I just go for the heavy or is there a definite benefit to going with light armor for the Magnus set?
EDIT - Managed to find the Signet of the Warlock but it's listed at 20k, so I probably won't be making that purchase. Found some footsman's items but they were VR12 and similarly priced.
Ahh, gotcha. And thank you, I'd appreciate that!My username is the same in-game as it is here, so if you want to shoot me a friend request, that'd be awesome.
Are there any lower-rank VR sets similar to footman's gear that I should be on the lookout for, or should I just purchase a couple of rings and necklaces with the same sort of enchantments already on 'em? I'd like to stack sets to get bonuses wherever I can, but if there aren't any lower-rank VR accessory sets like footman's gear I'd be fine with getting some standalone ones to tide me over.
ValeriusMede wrote: »So after outfitting myself as suggested and re-allocating my stats similarly to your own build, I have to say I've noticed an immediate difference in effectiveness. I'm cutting down enemies quicker and it just feels better. Unless I get swamped by 3+ enemies at once with half-depleted stamina/magicka/health most common mobs don't have a chance to get more than a few hits in edgewise. Excellent control and power -- I'm definitely going to stick with this build for the foreseeable future. Thank you again!