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Would you take new content instead of 1.6 ?
Joejudas
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Would you take new content...like maybe the Imperial City...if they just told us that 1.6 needed more work than normal and put it off for awhile...like until June.
Edited by Joejudas on February 23, 2015 12:51PM Would you take new content instead of 1.6 ? 134 votes
yes i would take new content over 1.6
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63 votes
no i wouldnt take new content over 1.6
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41 votes
potatoe
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AshySamurai✭✭✭✭✭
✭potatoeI like 1.6 New ult generation seems pretty nice now. New animation also good. CS is not as good as it should (see power gap between old players and new players). JS seems not so good till they implement PvP aspeect (will it ever happen?), but why not to steel few goods while you're running to vendor or crafting station? Skills revamp - there are some good parts (like stamina morphs), but there are bad parts ( templar new fotm, huge nerfs). In general it's not so bad as it could be.Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!0 -
Kragorn✭✭✭✭✭potatoeI see no point in voting one way or the other, 1.6 is going to happen no matter what I do, all I can do is wait to see if my playstyle and interests have been destroyed as I fear they have, or not as the case may be.1
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Gedalya✭✭✭✭✭1.6 includes quite a bit of new content. Much of which is excellent content such as the Justice System, found in prior ES titles. And yes, I can't wait until 1.7; but 1.6 is essential in so many ways as it improves the fundamentals of the game itself.0 -
Kronosphere✭✭✭✭no i wouldnt take new content over 1.6no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter~House Indoril~
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Seraphyel✭✭✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6I would take 1.6 AND new content.
It's ridiculous that they don't deliver content with 1.6, Upper Craglorn is half a year old and boring now. They MUST release content before console version, if they don't it won't end good.1.6 includes quite a bit of new content. Much of which is excellent content such as the Justice System, found in prior ES titles. And yes, I can't wait until 1.7; but 1.6 is essential in so many ways as it improves the fundamentals of the game itself.
1.6 offers no content. Justice & Champion system can hardly be described as content, they are just new gameplay mechanics - that's not content.Edited by Seraphyel on February 23, 2015 1:17PM2 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6I would be fine waiting and having anything that actually works first .1 -
gurluasb16_ESO✭✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6Definitely new content. I've been bored for months -.-0
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭potatoeI do not see putting 1.6 off until June meaning more content in its place. They'd still be focusing on finishing their work. I know with projects I have, it makes it really difficult to just drop something then pick it up later without having to go back and look over where I was at again.0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6Kronosphere wrote: »no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter
Because you think 1.6 will actually fix the base?
Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.
New content is ready, they just aren't releasing it since they want to wait for console players to have played for a couple of months before releasing content. Remember that Imperial City was suposed to come with this patch or the next as well as the new solo zone.
Content is ready, they just won't release it yet.Edited by TehMagnus on February 23, 2015 1:53PM1 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6
Looked it up on google lol . That's messed up Man .0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kronosphere wrote: »no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter
Because you think 1.6 will actually fix the base?Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.
New content is ready, they just aren't releasing it since they want to wait for console players to have played for a couple of months before releasing content. Remember that Imperial City was suposed to come with this patch or the next as well as the new solo zone.
Content is ready, they just won't release it yet.
That's not what I recall them saying, but if you know it's factually correct rather than just an assumption then you'll be able to correct all the doomsayers who are claiming that there won't be any new content before the end of the year.0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6Kronosphere wrote: »no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter
Because you think 1.6 will actually fix the base?Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.
New content is ready, they just aren't releasing it since they want to wait for console players to have played for a couple of months before releasing content. Remember that Imperial City was suposed to come with this patch or the next as well as the new solo zone.
Content is ready, they just won't release it yet.
That's not what I recall them saying, but if you know it's factually correct rather than just an assumption then you'll be able to correct all the doomsayers who are claiming that there won't be any new content before the end of the year.
You won't get any content before the end of the year, not because it's not ready, but because on a marketing point of view, you can't release any content before console release (you gotta box the game and if you ask players to DL a huge patch just after they buy the game it will annoy them), and once console release is live, you have to wait for some time before releasing a DLC to make sure many of the console players will buy it and in order to avoid a big big content patch so close after the game release which is why we have to wait.
Zenimax only cares about consoles and getting as much money as they can now. The faster your realize this, the easier it will be to understand their decisions.
As for the content being ready, they have been working on the solo zone and Imperial City for more than 6 months and their releases where planed for Update 6 and 7 but where delayed because of console.Edited by TehMagnus on February 23, 2015 2:25PM0 -
LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6There is absolutely nothing in 1.6 that should have been released before both the Imperial City and Orsinium. Apart from trials and DSA, Craglorn is an epic failure as it highlights the fact that this game is seriously lacking in VR11-14 content.
Stealing stuff is not new content and it certainly is not more important than new zones, dungeons and quests. The Champion System, while interesting in theory, is a failure when it launches because there is not nearly enough content to earn the XP required by the system.
Greed is the only reason we have not received any new content for months - and we won't receive any new content for several more months. We should have received the Imperial City in January and Orsinium in March. The Champion System should have been held back for the console release. The Justice System should have been held until the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood lines were ready.
Whomever is making the product release decisions with this game needs to spend less time listening to bean counters and more time listening to players. As far as I can tell, player interests and needs are of absolutely no concern to ZOS and they do not factor in the decision making process at all.Edited by LonePirate on February 23, 2015 3:20PM2 -
Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭no i wouldnt take new content over 1.6Very interesting... I would not have guessed this one correctly.
What good is more content when our progression design is flawed, and the most competitive setup is usually light-armor magicka?
Without better game balance there's just no way this game will ever attract and retain anything other than the casual players, IMO.
I'm not saying that ZOS got 1.6 right, but I'm confident 1.5 isn't right either.Edited by Sacadon on February 23, 2015 3:41PM2 -
Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭no i wouldnt take new content over 1.6LonePirate wrote: »There is absolutely nothing in 1.6 that should have been released before both the Imperial City and Orsinium. Apart from trials and DSA, Craglorn is an epic failure as it highlights the fact that this game is seriously lacking in VR11-14 content.
Stealing stuff is not new content and it certainly is not more important than new zones, dungeons and quests. The Champion System, while interesting in theory, is a failure when it launches because there is not nearly enough content to earn the XP required by the system.
Greed is the only reason we have not received any new content for months - and we won't receive any new content for several more months. We should have received the Imperial City in January and Orsinium in March. The Champion System should have been held back for the console release. The Justice System should have been held until the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood lines were ready.
Whomever is making the product release decisions with this game needs to spend less time listening to bean counters and more time listening to players. As far as I can tell, player interests and needs are of absolutely no concern to ZOS and they do not factor in the decision making process at all.
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Also, I think this is a compounding issue with console delay and game design flaw they've been trying to correct, while keeping players as happy as possible.
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BigM✭✭✭✭✭
✭potatoePotato if it is the group tool you are talking about. Come on guys we are putting all our faith in a company to pull all this off and make the game great for us players when they can't fix something as easy as a grouping tool.
This is so funny I feel like we are a bunch of suckers.“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6
Or people with any interest in cinema. Meryl Streep did get an Oscar for that role, after all.MornaBaine wrote: »0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kronosphere wrote: »no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter
Because you think 1.6 will actually fix the base?Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.
New content is ready, they just aren't releasing it since they want to wait for console players to have played for a couple of months before releasing content. Remember that Imperial City was suposed to come with this patch or the next as well as the new solo zone.
Content is ready, they just won't release it yet.
That's not what I recall them saying, but if you know it's factually correct rather than just an assumption then you'll be able to correct all the doomsayers who are claiming that there won't be any new content before the end of the year.
You won't get any content before the end of the year, not because it's not ready, but because on a marketing point of view, you can't release any content before console release (you gotta box the game and if you ask players to DL a huge patch just after they buy the game it will annoy them), and once console release is live, you have to wait for some time before releasing a DLC to make sure many of the console players will buy it and in order to avoid a big big content patch so close after the game release which is why we have to wait.
Zenimax only cares about consoles and getting as much money as they can now. The faster your realize this, the easier it will be to understand their decisions.
As for the content being ready, they have been working on the solo zone and Imperial City for more than 6 months and their releases where planed for Update 6 and 7 but where delayed because of console.
You're contradicting yourself. First you said the DLC would be held back for a couple of months after the console launch in June, now you're saying the DLC won't be before the end of the year.
As for the content being ready, I recall them saying that they weren't happy with it in its present form and wanted to do more work on it, so you wouldn't have it yet anyway. I think that comment was in an ESO Live, probably last month I think.
Neither of us really has the first idea what state the new content is in, or when it will be released. We certainly don't know how long it will take to convert it to the console versions. However, it seems reasonable to assume that with the change in business model ZOS will have to release content quickly and often, that's how they'll make their money, and on that basis I'd be very surprised if they weren't looking to release meaningful content (as opposed to e.g. potions, outfits, and mounts) in the Autumn.0 -
RDMyers65b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭This poll is silly as 1.6 IS new content. If it's not been on the game before, it's new content.0 -
Lord Xanhorn✭✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6There is not going to be a 1.7.....All future content updates will be DLCs. They certainly arent going devote resources to updating mechanics or other systems when they can have those resources making things that sell in the crown store or purchasable DLC. 1.6 will be the game systems from here on out and you better hope its as good as we think its gonna be.
Systematic things like class balance, skill balance, animations, UI, and things of that sort won't be updated frequently IMO. They devs stated a few times that they are going to let the game breathe a bit. That means no systems updates for quite some time.I'm kind of a small deal!0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭potatoeBy my definition, "new content" includes Justice SystemXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Seraphyel✭✭✭✭✭yes i would take new content over 1.6Kronosphere wrote: »no. why build new stuff with a rotten framework? fix the base then move on is alot smarter
Because you think 1.6 will actually fix the base?Given that the new content is not ready, I don't see the point in the question other than to keep stirring the pot.
I'll happily take 1.6 when the developers consider it ready, and so far as those on the PTS are concerned there are seemingly plenty who feel that it's ready now.
New content is ready, they just aren't releasing it since they want to wait for console players to have played for a couple of months before releasing content. Remember that Imperial City was suposed to come with this patch or the next as well as the new solo zone.
Content is ready, they just won't release it yet.
That's not what I recall them saying, but if you know it's factually correct rather than just an assumption then you'll be able to correct all the doomsayers who are claiming that there won't be any new content before the end of the year.
You won't get any content before the end of the year, not because it's not ready, but because on a marketing point of view, you can't release any content before console release (you gotta box the game and if you ask players to DL a huge patch just after they buy the game it will annoy them), and once console release is live, you have to wait for some time before releasing a DLC to make sure many of the console players will buy it and in order to avoid a big big content patch so close after the game release which is why we have to wait.
Zenimax only cares about consoles and getting as much money as they can now. The faster your realize this, the easier it will be to understand their decisions.
As for the content being ready, they have been working on the solo zone and Imperial City for more than 6 months and their releases where planed for Update 6 and 7 but where delayed because of console.
You're contradicting yourself. First you said the DLC would be held back for a couple of months after the console launch in June, now you're saying the DLC won't be before the end of the year.
As for the content being ready, I recall them saying that they weren't happy with it in its present form and wanted to do more work on it, so you wouldn't have it yet anyway. I think that comment was in an ESO Live, probably last month I think.
Neither of us really has the first idea what state the new content is in, or when it will be released. We certainly don't know how long it will take to convert it to the console versions. However, it seems reasonable to assume that with the change in business model ZOS will have to release content quickly and often, that's how they'll make their money, and on that basis I'd be very surprised if they weren't looking to release meaningful content (as opposed to e.g. potions, outfits, and mounts) in the Autumn.
Gosh, Zenimax is working - or at least saying they're working on - new content for more than 10 months now. TEN MONTHS!!!! And all we got in this ten months were VISUAL things in those new zones, that's it. That's hideous and ridiculous at the same time.
What the hell is the content development team doing? Or is Zenimax lying with their statement they are actually working on all of those new zones?
Sorry, you can't tell me that they work on 4 or 5 zones and none of them is ready now but surprisingly will be ready after B2P and console launch.
That's just a despicable marketing thing.RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »This poll is silly as 1.6 IS new content. If it's not been on the game before, it's new content.
No, it's not.
New textures that haven't been there before ---> new content when it comes to your post - and excuse me, but that's laughable.
Content = new things to do in new areas or at least new questlines
Putting in better audio or textures in there is no content, the champion system is no content (it's just another progression) and so on.Edited by Seraphyel on February 23, 2015 6:12PM0
