What's easy for you may not be easy for everyone else. I find the quest grind long and boring as well, but for new players who are still unfamiliar with the game mechanics (or these kinds of games in general), this easier content may be exactly what they need to learn the game. ZoS' goal is to have content that most players can play, which means that content will not be challenging for everyone.

It would be nice if they had alternative, more challenging content, but it's probably pretty difficult to find that sweet spot of a graduated system where most players can find content that is challenging without being overwhelming. There was a point where the VR content was more challenging, but it was "nerfed" due to player feedback. To be honest, I found that more challenging content to be annoying, mostly because it was just as accomplishable as fighting weaker mobs, it just took longer. The issue I had was that the mobs didn't play smarter, they just had more HP \ damage (a continual criticism of almost any game).

You could try questing in Cyrodiil. You'll get scaled up to 50, but everything else would be scaled up to VR5, so it may be more challenging for you. You'll have to deal with the possibility of run ins against enemy factions, but that certainly adds to the challenge.

They seem to have NERFED everything. The main and guild quests are no longer a challenge. Dungeon bosses are a joke. Maybe if I stripped down and lost my weapons I would get a challenge. I wonder if the move has to do with making it easier for the casual player community.

I totally agree that mobs are too easy while questing. I wish the game gave you some option to down level yourself or something...like manually set your level 5 below the zone.

The game is a lot easier than it used to be. That is because they got a lot of complaints that it was too difficult. The silver and gold vet areas were specifically nerfed due to these complaints. Now you guys want it to be harder? Make up your minds.

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

But still something has got a serious nerf, today i've taked a 12 mobs groupof my same level and killed them all alone.... with my nightblade.... i even done a public dungeon run alone and i do remember them harder... even the group challenge in public dungeon are soloable now.

Or i've got stronger or the game got nefed hard....

What kind of armor are you wearing? My alts run around in crafted sets of good quality, with good enchants, and have good food and potions on them. They can take pretty much anything the game throws their way with ease.

I think a lot of it has to do with knowing how to play the game. I see you have 2 V14s and I assume you've done some endgame content that taught you proper game mechanics? That makes a big difference, IMO.

As someone above suggested, if you want a challenge, strip off your armor and go in with a level 1 weapon. Oh, and leave those silly potions and food alone too.




The content will subsequently get significantly tougher.

I downloaded the PTS recently and was playing a new character. After a while, I wanted to compare some things with the live server, so I rolled a new character there.

It was much easier because I was using the right abilities at the right time. I wasn't wasting skill points, and I was unconsciously light-attack weaving and block casting. It's hard to say how someone new will experience the game.

We need to remember that not everyone wants a challenge in a game. Some just want a fun escape from reality. If ESO is to be successful, it must cater to everyone.

TehMagnus wrote: »

Deathztalker wrote: »

I'm been leveling a new character since I've come back to the game and I've notice some big nerfs to trash mobs? Running from quest to quest I now don't even need stop to kill packs of trash I just run through blowing them away as a go like a road bumps. The only time I stop is if I need to loot them lol If trash fights are this meaningless why even have them? I now L24 clearing L28 content and kill groups of 3/4 like fly's. It starts to becomes boring when groups four levels above you don't even put up a fight :-(

This is a big problem of the game, people will just steamroll from level 1 to VR14, enter end game content when they have to block and roll dodge and then claim the game is too hard

Go ahead and try to steamroll to v14, you'll hit that big wall at v1.

It's not too easy. You are just experienced now. If it's too easy for you, take off your armor, don't use potions etc. Problem solved.

For someone new to the game it's not going to be "too easy". They're entitled to their fun too and shouldn't feel like they're grinding through content because the dev's make starter content harder for alt leveling. Level 1 - 50 is for people new to the game and for those of us who play alts we have to keep that in mind.

FishBreath wrote: »

And this is why my character runs around almost naked. Purposely gimping your character is the only way to get more challenge and not get bored.

Two choices:
- Don't wear all armor pieces
or
- Use lower level gear

You forgot:

or
- Use builds that are fun, even if they're not efficient.

I've got a NB running a Shadow heavy build right now. It is more of a challenge, but it's also a lot of fun. Spice things up, and pick things for entertainment, not because you intend to take that build into endgame.

Goldie wrote: »

TehMagnus wrote: »

Deathztalker wrote: »

I'm been leveling a new character since I've come back to the game and I've notice some big nerfs to trash mobs? Running from quest to quest I now don't even need stop to kill packs of trash I just run through blowing them away as a go like a road bumps. The only time I stop is if I need to loot them lol If trash fights are this meaningless why even have them? I now L24 clearing L28 content and kill groups of 3/4 like fly's. It starts to becomes boring when groups four levels above you don't even put up a fight :-(

This is a big problem of the game, people will just steamroll from level 1 to VR14, enter end game content when they have to block and roll dodge and then claim the game is too hard

Go ahead and try to steamroll to v14, you'll hit that big wall at v1.

That wall quickly comes crumbling down if you know what you're doing. I soloed nearly everything in vet zones, including some public dungeons bosses. I have no idea if this is possible with every build, but vet ranks definitely aren't a daunting challenge anymore. Also, lots of these people steamrolling to VR14 did so grinding in a group.

Being a new player, I say it varies from player to player. For example I myself don't play many PC games, more specifically MMORPGs nowadays as I struggled to find something to my liking until trying ESO, so it was a change from controller to PC for me, and deciding on a strategy for my gameplay (which ended up being a mostly destruction sorc and switching to healer when needed), and how I wanted to build my characters stats. I also agree, if you tend to stick to one class/armor/wep/race type, change it up and you may be pleasantly surprised, and this goes for other games as well. I found it a pleasant surprise to take a good few hours levelling my restoration staff and picking up a few tidbits of knowledge about the healing side of the sorc here and there. All that being said, if changing it up does nothing for you, try starting from scratch and try something completely different if you can.

TehMagnus wrote: »

Keepercraft wrote: »

It's to easy too get to Claglorn and grinding mobs without veteran content and close main story.
I feel bots coming.....

Don't worry about bots, ZOS knows how to handle them very well.

I played at start and saw many bots, but i liked like ZOS fight with bots.

It will be good, that other resources will be on over all maps like flowers, not only on high-lvl content.
All type of resources need to be mixed on the world, it will me more realistic.

firstdecan wrote: »

It would be nice if they had alternative, more challenging content, but it's probably pretty difficult to find that sweet spot of a graduated system where most players can find content that is challenging without being overwhelming. There was a point where the VR content was more challenging, but it was "nerfed" due to player feedback. To be honest, I found that more challenging content to be annoying, mostly because it was just as accomplishable as fighting weaker mobs, it just took longer. The issue I had was that the mobs didn't play smarter, they just had more HP \ damage (a continual criticism of almost any game).

This is nice in theory but every now and then you still see people complaining that veteran dungeons are too hard, that DSA is too hard, that trials are too hard because they feel entitled to complete everything the way they did quests from lvl3 to VR14. Reducing the difficulty of the veteran ranks was a step in the wrong direction imo and the dev team should have focused on expanding the tutorials further on the game's various mechanisms: block, bash, roll dodge, interrupt, taunt, cc break ...
It's a shame that all solo content can be done without understanding any of those.