For players who wish to level by killing stuff.

Tapio75 · February 2015

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests...

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.

Syntse · February 2015

Most of the so called grinding spots are on quest areas. Mind sharing places which are good for this and are not quest areas.

Tapio75 · February 2015

People running in circles, steamrolling stuff is not very immersive and doing quests in empty areas which are supposed to be dangerous is not very enjoyable. People grinding on quest areas in other hand feel annoying and frustrate me as the area is not what it is meant to be.

Kragorn · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests..

Back in the day we called those 'bots', sad to say I've see a resurgence of them in recent weeks, most of them are clearly 'legit' players botting CPs ahead of 1.6.

Merlin13KAGL · February 2015

Kragorn wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests..

Back in the day we called those 'bots', sad to say I've see a resurgence of them in recent weeks, most of them are clearly 'legit' players botting CPs ahead of 1.6.

@Kragorn , if by this you mean "Leveling to 14," then yes.

You cannot anything CP's ahead of 1.6.

NukeAllTheThings · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests...

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.

Sorry to break your immersion but this is the game that ZOS gave us. We had an elegant solution to this at one point. I am sure you have heard f Craglorn right? That place used to have areas that seemed like they were created for grinding. Anomalies, Burial sites...they even had a string of random bosses strewn across Upper Craglorn that weren't tied to any kind of quest that made a perfect grinding loop. Unfortunately for everyone, ZOS killed that idea. I warned at that time that they were going to force grinders right back into the middle of questing areas and that is exactly what has happened. So, I understand your frustration but the only thing that can be done is for ZOS to correct their mistake and put the grind back into Grindlorn. Until that happens then I am sorry to say...get used to it because it will only get worse

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

I just ask for an invite to the grind group in these situations.

Roechacca · February 2015

Sure I'll leave those areas alone as soon as they make pvp xp comparable again .

Samadhi · February 2015

roechacca wrote: »

Sure I'll leave those areas alone as soon as they make pvp xp comparable again .

Definitely this.

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests...

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.

Would you put in a formal request for us to have highly populated mob zones with no quests in them?

The issue is that every notable area of mob population has some quest tied to it; general speaking, the more important the quest the higher the mob population.

You're saying "please leave," but there is not much in the way of options of where to leave to.

The best accommodation available currently is simply moving from one quest zone to another higher level quest zone on each 2-3 level ups, so as to not be continually screwing up people's quests for hours in the same location.

Khaldar · February 2015

This is great. "Zos I don't like people that play the game different than me." This is an MMO. People of all races, cultures, likes and dislikes play these games. I have been playing grinding games since EQ1. Yeah, I know many people hate grinding. Yeah, it is mindless. But, I love it for some strange reason. And I prefer it over doing the same quests over and over because that is mindless to me. It allows me another method of leveling alts outside of the slow treadmill that we are forced into by quests. One time through Cadwell is more than plenty for me. In fact after hitting VR2, I quit the game for months because of the monotonous questing of Veteran ranks. Once I returned I went to grinding and fell in love with the game.

firstdecan · February 2015

What do grinders ruin in the questing experience? By removing the mobs, you can get where you are going and press 'E' much sooner. It's not like you need the extra XP, you're questing. I don't understand how other people in an MMO ruin the questing experience.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · February 2015

I found most of the dungeon grinders are in the public dungeons. Which is fine by me. It means there's help clearing out the mobs so I can go in, pick up the skyshard, tag along with a group, kill bosses and complete the quests.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · February 2015

Khaldar wrote: »

This is great. "Zos I don't like people that play the game different than me." This is an MMO. People of all races, cultures, likes and dislikes play these games. I have been playing grinding games since EQ1. Yeah, I know many people hate grinding. Yeah, it is mindless. But, I love it for some strange reason. And I prefer it over doing the same quests over and over because that is mindless to me. It allows me another method of leveling alts outside of the slow treadmill that we are forced into by quests. One time through Cadwell is more than plenty for me. In fact after hitting VR2, I quit the game for months because of the monotonous questing of Veteran ranks. Once I returned I went to grinding and fell in love with the game.

I am in agreement,

I like grinding now, in the beginning it was just ok, but now I find it infinitely better than just questing, but Grinding is way slower once you hit VR ranks..

Anyway, right now i am grinding the rest of my characters to VR level so they can all get CP, and saving quests so I can do them later for CP when 1.6 drops to live..

Deheart · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests...

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.

There is no point to grinding as far as I can tell in this game.

I mean for ex, I am going through this heavy duty high mob area for a quest, kill after constant kill, for an hour since I kept dying, and very little increase in experience.

Then the next hour I finish two quests and pretty much fill up a full bars worth of ex. I would get ex faster just researching crafting on an offline char then spending hours just ginding.

Syntse · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

People running in circles, steamrolling stuff is not very immersive and doing quests in empty areas which are supposed to be dangerous is not very enjoyable. People grinding on quest areas in other hand feel annoying and frustrate me as the area is not what it is meant to be.

Are you sure MMO is the right game for you? Sounds like you would prefer single player game where there are no others breaking your immersion.

clocksstoppe · February 2015

No, you whined about grinding xp and got it nerfed. You deserve all the hate from the grinding folks and the trampling of the questing areas too.

helediron · February 2015

Sorry about all that killing, but that's now the fastest way to levelup an alt: do the quests and kill everything few times. Of course if the public group dungeons or places like Rkundzelf would give XP, i could go there.

Actually i have often seen people following me and enjoying a nice stroll through a dungeon. When i have to stop to clear my inventory, they stop too and mind their own business until i go to killing frenzy again. Like tens of times i have described my build, what IS a build, how to assign attributes, tell what skills are, point a skyshard and how to use it and so on. Some even come to say that i missed few enemies over there near those bookshelves...

Cody · February 2015

Tough luck, they bought the game too. Deal with it.

eliisra · February 2015

This would easily be sorted if ZoS added more grind spots. Right now you have questers, loot- and material farmers, exp- and skill grinders and achievement hunters competing over the same spots. Because outside of quest-areas you rarely encounter more than 2-3 spread out enemies. It's not good enough.

Remember being at zombie spot in Coldharbour the other day to finish quests for a title. Not only was it 10+ people grinding levels but also a group grinding Fighters Guild exp, than 2-3 people trying to do the quest, poor zombies.

But doing a quest doesn't give you priority or exclusive right to monsters before everyone else in the area. The other guys running about killing stuff probably feel the same way. That finishing their grind is the most important thing in the world and the guy questing is disturbing. But no one has the right to tell others where they can and cannot be in an MMO they're paying for, even if it ruins our "immersion" or exp or whatever.

Only ZoS can fix this.

Animal_Mother · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

Nothing particular against you exept that i hate it when people choose to do this at areas where people do quests...

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.

Hate to say this, but get used to it. Once 1.6 hits, we all need a way to get our CPs.

technohic · February 2015

This is what happens when they nerf grind spots. People start going to quest mobs because they need to stay the same XP in order for the quests to pace right with the levels.

If only they had addressed it by leaving grind spots alone and allowing leveling in PvP to stay even close to on pace of questing, then everyone could happily do things how they want without getting their "immersion" ruined.

UrQuan · February 2015

clocksstoppe wrote: »

No, you whined about grinding xp and got it nerfed. You deserve all the hate from the grinding folks and the trampling of the questing areas too.

You'd better be able to back that up. Show me the post where OP whined about grinding xp. If you can't, you're a liar.

RainfeatherUK · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

Please, if you choose to attempt leveling by killing stuff, do it outside of quest areas so you do not ruin the quest experience for other people. Plenty of places rto do this.[/b]

On the grind. Hiding in the bushes waiting to snipe your mob at the last minute rawr.

Haha kidding but really, we need room for everyone. I've had many a grind, ruined by a angry verbal shakedown from a weary quester (eek) and they certainly dont care that I was there first lol.

IrishGirlGamer · February 2015

Tapio75 wrote: »

People running in circles, steamrolling stuff is not very immersive and doing quests in empty areas which are supposed to be dangerous is not very enjoyable. People grinding on quest areas in other hand feel annoying and frustrate me as the area is not what it is meant to be.

Perhaps unfortunately, the answer to this issue is don't play an MMO.

There's a lot of things I don't like about the game, but yes, going into a dungeon and watching three or four people grind out all my mods is probably fairly high on the list. But then, they get to play, too.

Sorry.

TheShadowScout · February 2015

Personally I don't like grinding, and I don't like people grinding instead of playing through quests. But that's -my- opinion. Other people may have a different opinion, and when they bought the game, they bought their share on the right to kill mobs for fun and profit. It's one of those "deal with it" things, I'd say.

Though I still sometimes wish the game counted how many of any specific mob type you slay, and lowers your XP gains... say, -5% XP per ten kills... meaning eventually killing some mob type will be such "routine" you get no more expees from it, regardless of levels. (And I mean -specific- type, so when you had killed your fill of bloodthorn zombies, other zombies would still be slightly different and a new experience, and give expees)

Epona222 · February 2015

No-one is saying 'Don't grind', it's just a simple request that people choose other areas to grind that don't frustrate people who are on a quest that requires them to kill enemies or collect quest items from their bodies. No-one wants to be given a quest to kill 5 daedra or collect military order documents off bodies or capture an enemy and find the area has been completely decimated by people farming XP. It really is that simple. And yes there are plenty of places to farm that do not interfere with other people questing. Yes I do sometimes farm in quest areas, usually in the small hours of the morning, but if anyone turns up to do a quest I go visit the bank or do some writs and let them do their quests! Just be polite!

Brizz · February 2015

Go play your solo RPG.... This is an MMO, you have to deal with other players.

Auricle · February 2015

When you encounter these situations where you're frustrated over people killing quest mobs... Have you tried asking them politely to cool it for a moment? Communication might be helpful here.

Oh wait. I'm talking to antisocial gamers... Nevermind. I'll just sit here and eat my cookie. Carry on.

Epona222 · February 2015

Or you know, you could just exercise some good manners and try to be considerate without having to be asked... or is this what the world has come to these days, where everyone is a unique snowflake and has no consideration towards other people?

I wasn't brought up to be that selfish.

Morshire · February 2015

Well I am on the fence about this. I mean, I really should change what I am doing to allow someone else to jump in? Seriously? Not trying to be rude, but if I am grinding away and someone comes through that is questing. Technically speaking, there are plenty of other quests. Can't they just move along till I have to go dump my bags or something? (Of course, I am not generally very polite)

BUT...huge disclaimer here because I know I have a huge fan base I don't want to make mad at me

...I am usually grinding solo. I rarely dismiss a group request. Don't care if they want to grind with me, or get the benefits from my heals, or whatever. You could just send a group invite, see if they accept, ride along till you are done, drop a TY in group chat, and be on your way. I would accept and be just fine when you left.

I get that it is frustrating, I do. But it is just as frustrating when trying to grind to have to stop and wait for anything (including my wife screaming at me to come eat) My time is limited in game and I want to make ever bit count. The game designers should have taken grinding into account and provided a better way to accomplish both goals. And truth be told, I am not really that impolite (at least I tell myself that to feel better) Changing the way grinders get their levels on these forums will probably not get you the responses you want, but I would bet that an in game whisper or group invite might. Just saying. We all have to share this small world called Tamriel, and leveling is a two way street.

You see it as an annoyance, I'd be counting the bodies and thinking about how big my imaginary ego was at that moment. Different strokes for different folks, right?

technohic · February 2015

You know, its not just leveling but since there is no new solo content as of yet and I have completed caldwells gold; I find myself going around and grinding for gear to deconstruct and farming mats and gold.

They should make caldwells repeatable or add more solo content. Don't think I want to get a group just for my own personal farming.