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Zenimax please Add Auction House
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✭✭Guild traders are absolutely horrible. You have to travel between 100 of them just to maybe have a chance at finding something you are looking for. All guild traders fall into two categories. They are either empty, or they have the same exact stuff as every other trader. Prices vary wildly for the same exact item on the same guild trader. I see this all the time, a guild trader will have a certain ring listed for 20k, then right directly under that listing will be the same exact ring for 50k.
What you people don't realize is there is already a global auction house in place, you just have to travel to 100 different traders to access it. They should just make a single kiosk in major cities, or even a hotkey like the Crown Store, and be able to access all guild stores.
And for those crying about how it would ruin the "economy", there is no economy. Players are free to buy and sell for whatever price they wish. If I see that you are charging 12k per stack for a particular item on a trader, then I offer that same exact stack in zone chat for 10k, tough luck.1 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Look for you kind folks that enjoy playing the shopping mmo , that's fine . I don't and there are many others that don't as well . When I want to buy something I like to go to one location and look around not 5 or 6 sub continents . Might as well rename it the Christopher Columbus MMO and we can spend all day seeking trade routes to the east . For those of us that wanna buy something , we wanna do it in a reasonable time frame . As it is now I don't buy anything . I craft everything myself because it's such a pain in the rear to find things . So crafting sucks up even more of my time away from what I really want to be doing , fighting ! So I'm happy you're happy even if it's at other expense . Someone needs to figure something better out like a centralized bazaar , what ever . But I have NO problem being against this current system even if everyone else is for it . It's been a thorn in my game time since launch .Edited by Roechacca on February 21, 2015 2:49PM3 -
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In the end there is a single question: Is the game more fun if you need to access many different different traders instead of a single one? If the answer is `no` for the majority of players then there should be a global auction house (which can be boycotted by everyone who doesn't like it).What you people don't realize is there is already a global auction house in place, you just have to travel to 100 different traders to access it. They should just make a single kiosk in major cities, or even a hotkey like the Crown Store, and be able to access all guild stores.Edited by Nefrast on February 21, 2015 2:54PM0 -
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭"Rent-an-AH" - Now available in the Crown Store at just 1500 crowns per month...
In the meantime, use AwesomeGuildStore, it'll help cutting down on shopping times tremendously."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Id even go for a directory that shows everything being sold and a waypoint to where the deal you want is , with a quick travel shrine nearby . Something to streamline the search process . Searching for an item even on a current kiosk takes forever because the menu has no written search feature .0 -
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Oh boo hoo, I take care of 3 grand kids from 2 to 9 and I don't think it is up to the game to make my life easier with an AH. If you can't play the game because you are too busy then maybe you shouldn't be playing. I find I can play the game fine the way it is even though am on over load with the grand kids. So it all comes down to two things, I love my grand kids and I love ESO THE WAY IT IS!
Except for the loyalty program which is allowing people that quit to be able to buy their way in.“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
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Oh boo hoo, I take care of 3 grand kids from 2 to 9 and I don't think it is up to the game to make my life easier with an AH. If you can't play the game because you are too busy then maybe you shouldn't be playing. I find I can play the game fine the way it is even though am on over load with the grand kids. So it all comes down to two things, I love my grand kids and I love ESO THE WAY IT IS!
Except for the loyalty program which is allowing people that quit to be able to buy their way in.
LMAO ! You can't just throw the Granpa card out like that . That's blatant abuse of senior citizen status ! You people already get great auto insurance deals from AARP and 10% off at movie theaters with priority parking . Don't step in here an campare watching kids with anything game time related ...1 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Time in game is relevant to every players play style . People have lives , busy schedules and some do not , it's unimportant . In the game everyone wants maximize their time doing what they love the most . That's gonna clash with players and their different play types . MMOs are about finding middle ground that people from these different areas can settle on if not agree . Compromise is relevant here . The forums were created to provide feedback so developers could decide what fits best for the customers .0 -
Khaleer✭✭Implementing an AH would effectively dissolve the Trade Guilds that GMs have spent months building. We work hard to establish large communities of traders to make our Trade Guilds fun, competitive and effective.
The current system is not perfect, and we meet with the CMs regularly to provide feedback. Truly blind bids and ways for newcomers to express their interest in joining a certain guild should be top priorities.
Improve the current system, don't destroy it with an AH.
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Alurria✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is a silly conversation, the economy Is working. Having a AH would allow a farmer to list 100 of the same thing separately for a cheap price. Scroll through a few pages of gold farmer crap and see if you don't buy something. The way it is now is a more natural way and reflects how real villages would work. It's not the end of the world without a AH1 -
BigM✭✭✭✭✭
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Oh boo hoo, I take care of 3 grand kids from 2 to 9 and I don't think it is up to the game to make my life easier with an AH. If you can't play the game because you are too busy then maybe you shouldn't be playing. I find I can play the game fine the way it is even though am on over load with the grand kids. So it all comes down to two things, I love my grand kids and I love ESO THE WAY IT IS!
Except for the loyalty program which is allowing people that quit to be able to buy their way in.
LMAO ! You can't just throw the Granpa card out like that . That's blatant abuse of senior citizen status ! You people already get great auto insurance deals from AARP and 10% off at movie theaters with priority parking . Don't step in here an campare watching kids with anything game time related ...
Sorry I don't do the far left AARP. So because my grand kids live with me and I have to take care of them I can't throw it out there. Oh senior discounts come with out AARP.
Lets see I had 4 way bypass take 14 pills a day and take care of my three grand kids and you say I can't throw it out there. All I can say is WOW, just WOW! :-D
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AshySamurai✭✭✭✭✭
✭The AH will bring a lot of speculators. I know it because that is what I did in Diablo 3. It's simple to do even without huge capital. Do you really want it?Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
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Oh boo hoo, I take care of 3 grand kids from 2 to 9 and I don't think it is up to the game to make my life easier with an AH. If you can't play the game because you are too busy then maybe you shouldn't be playing. I find I can play the game fine the way it is even though am on over load with the grand kids. So it all comes down to two things, I love my grand kids and I love ESO THE WAY IT IS!
Except for the loyalty program which is allowing people that quit to be able to buy their way in.
LMAO ! You can't just throw the Granpa card out like that . That's blatant abuse of senior citizen status ! You people already get great auto insurance deals from AARP and 10% off at movie theaters with priority parking . Don't step in here an campare watching kids with anything game time related ...
Sorry I don't do the far left AARP. So because my grand kids live with me and I have to take care of them I can't throw it out there. Oh senior discounts come with out AARP.
Lets see I had 4 way bypass take 14 pills a day and take care of my three grand kids and you say I can't throw it out there. All I can say is WOW, just WOW! :-D
Lol Alright Man fair enough . I'm old too I may throw that card out once myself soon . lol1 -
Rammi✭✭✭I hope ZOS do not add an AH.
I think the economy is one of the best in an MMO, we don't have crazy inflation and i personally feel like if i put in the effort i can get some really good deals that an AH would all but eliminate.
The way it works now is that there is no price point for everyone to work against meaning that people buy and sell based on what they feel the items is worth.
It also allows for more bartering which i love.
Im sorry so many of you don't like this but you can just play the game and get the items you want that way!!
Good luck!Edited by Rammi on February 21, 2015 3:57PMThe Champion System should have rewarded Champion Points based off of achievements and feats earned through excelling at end game content not grinding your life away vs mobs in order to stay competitive. This system is uncreative and is a great example of extremely lazy system design. Yes, you should be embarrassed4 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭No one is entitled to convenience at the expense of merchants getting fair prices for the items they worked for. Adapt to the current system or don't use it. ZoS, please don't ruin what you've given us to cater to a few players who can't understand why the current system is better than one stop shopping where everyone undercuts the lowest price just to make a sale.
If you can't find something you want, look harder or too bad. Seems the convenience excuse is no different than complaining that you have to level your character, or that you have to play with people sometimes to finish group tasks. It's a game and shopping around is part of it. Learn to play.Edited by SFBryan18 on February 21, 2015 4:36PM4 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Crafting isn't "hard work" . Your pressing keys on a keyboard . I craft all my own stuff because I would rather keep my money then pay people that think their doing "Hard work" slugging down a Big Gulp at a computer desk . Get real .0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There are games where crafting is tedious work requiring multiple crafters to work together to make a finished by product . This ain't one of Em .0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭So selling your stuff and getting 500 people together that barely know each other isn't hard work either . Spam a few zones and then tell this people to invite others . It's not hard work , it's boring work .0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »Stop pretending your worry about the ingame economy, most of you who don't care about it as long as your trading guilds oligopolize the market, making you rich.
This is not true. People who trade are very interested in the in-game economy. It is what drives their sales.
I am in three guilds that have a trader, one of which is a general social guild. I depend on the in-game economy every time I want to sell something. Most (~75%) of my sales are from outside of these three guilds. The traders range from high traffic areas to places far from civilization, and I sell stuff in all of them to people outside of the guild.
As a seller and a buyer, I want to have the option to choose a price. The guild traders have enough price variation that I am not forced to conform to what other people think is the right price.
If I think a sell price in one guild is too high, or too low, I can sell in one of my other guilds without any worry about undercutting or selling too high.
If I am buying, I don't have to wait for someone to post at the price I am willing to pay, or accept what the going rate is. I can shop around.
I also draw exception at the whole auction concept. Anyone who bids on an item with a buy now price is wasting their time. Most auction houses do not really auction anything, in my experience.
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SK1TZ0FR3N1K✭✭✭or even a hotkey like the Crown Store, and be able to access all guild stores.
Give it a month, you can probably get this on the Crown store for 5,000,000 Crowns. /end sarcasm
“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
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Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .Edited by Roechacca on February 21, 2015 5:00PM0 -
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Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .
Well. You already got improvement - guild trader. Now you can buy from any good store and not being member of this guild. Want to sell - sell to vendors or trage it with group mates. Want something more - it's a MMO, join a guild.Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
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Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .
What you don't want is to play the game the way it was designed. Perhaps you should just not trade and leave the rest of us alone. The current system works well for most of us and in my opinion, it should stay the same.
Your point about how hard it is to create a guild had very little relevance. You seem to be coming up with anything you can think of in an attempt to prove something you can't. Please stop.2 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭AshySamurai wrote: »
Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .
Well. You already got improvement - guild trader. Now you can buy from any good store and not being member of this guild. Want to sell - sell to vendors or trage it with group mates. Want something more - it's a MMO, join a guild.
Or I'll just keep doing what I want and request what I want . Even if it's not what you want . I don't even bother to browse those guild kiosks because they're worthless to me . You can't even repair at them . Every time I browse one it's filled with junk items I don't need out in the middle of no where .1 -
Rammi✭✭✭Crafting isn't "hard work" . Your pressing keys on a keyboard . I craft all my own stuff because I would rather keep my money then pay people that think their doing "Hard work" slugging down a Big Gulp at a computer desk . Get real .
Lol you could say this about gaming as a whole. What a terrible argument!
Their is a ton of skill involved in communicating and working within a community to barter (Buy and Sell) Just because you do not value it and can't be bothered with it, does not make you right on this.
As I mentioned, you have the choice to not be involved in buying and selling items, as the game provides you with the means to acquire everything you want without having to buy anything. Just play the game.
The current system does provide you with a way to reduce down the time it takes to acquire items but it does so in a way that it does not trivialize the market and still requires effort. This is a good thing for balancing the economy.
Edited by Rammi on February 21, 2015 5:19PMThe Champion System should have rewarded Champion Points based off of achievements and feats earned through excelling at end game content not grinding your life away vs mobs in order to stay competitive. This system is uncreative and is a great example of extremely lazy system design. Yes, you should be embarrassed2 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
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Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .
What you don't want is to play the game the way it was designed. Perhaps you should just not trade and leave the rest of us alone. The current system works well for most of us and in my opinion, it should stay the same.
Your point about how hard it is to create a guild had very little relevance. You seem to be coming up with anything you can think of in an attempt to prove something you can't. Please stop.
I don't have to prove my opinion , it's an opinion just like yours . If you don't like my opinion , deal with it . But don't tell me how I need to just accept what you think is best . I have every right to voice my opinion as you do to protest it . So now you are taking this off topic . Moving on .
Yea for AH . It's what I want .
It's not what you want
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Alurria✭✭✭✭✭
✭AshySamurai wrote: »
Making or joining a trading guild has been apart of this discussion in several posts and is absutely on topic as people are asking everyone to just use the current system . Don't try to bait me .
I for one don't want to use one or more of my guild slots up just for the easier access of buying items from Bank nodes . You said if you don't like the current system , don't use . Well my answer is Im not . I'm not using it all cause it sucks . I'm requesting something be put in that's useable for people that don't like it . If you don't like that it may change or people are requesting different option , YOU deal with that issue .
Well. You already got improvement - guild trader. Now you can buy from any good store and not being member of this guild. Want to sell - sell to vendors or trage it with group mates. Want something more - it's a MMO, join a guild.
Or I'll just keep doing what I want and request what I want . Even if it's not what you want . I don't even bother to browse those guild kiosks because they're worthless to me . You can't even repair at them . Every time I browse one it's filled with junk items I don't need out in the middle of no where .
So in other words you don't want a discussion about it, you just want what YOU want. Ok gotcha, good luck with that. No sense in continuing to try and have a conversation with someone who is so set and doesn't entertain the fact that the economy is working, they just want it because. I'm done with this thread.
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