Zenimax please Add Auction House

Elsonso · February 2015

I can see a hurdle getting into a guild to get a Kiosk to be able to sell at.

One of the problems with ESO right now is that, while I can find out who has a kiosk, I have no way to contact them. We need to have a way to be able to contact guilds in the game. That, alone, would solve a lot of problems.

I am not as concerned about the people who refuse to join guilds. I am reminded of people back in early ESO days that claimed that hawking goods in Zone chat was better than joining a guild, so I assume that is just as effective today.

I like the current guild trader system. I think that the idea of local markets, vs global markets, adds to the game. There are certain guilds and certain kiosks that sell below average. Not enough for someone to resell their stuff, but enough so that I can save a few gold coins. In a global auction house of any type, these things go to the person who sits in the auction house UI all day, and I play ESO, not Auction House, so I don't camp out looking for deals. I just know that certain guilds, who tend to be at the same location each week, sell stuff cheaper than others.

I like that people have to move through the game world to get to the traders, instead of navigating a UI with some add-on.

WebBull · February 2015

Something, anything, will be better than the current system.

Elridge · February 2015

I rather like the hunt for items in the current system, I'd hate to see an auction house that makes everything way too easy to obtain. No more fun in the hunt for cool items. Maybe as someone said before have a more condensed area of stalls? That might be cool to add in?

Alphashado · February 2015

cfnxhael wrote: »

+1.I don't want to join a guild for sell my stuff.Anyway I got my answers.

You would have a difficult time getting invited to a good trading guild anyways using @cfnxhael as a name. It looks incredibly suspicious. You may wish to consider changing it if you decide to change your mind and look for a few good trading guilds.

On a side note, and completely unrelated, one thing the guild stores effectively hinder are gold farmers and bots.

Dominoid · February 2015

Add me to the list of "No".

jluceyub17_ESO · February 2015

No Auction House please, current system is great (not that I'd object to some UI improvements)

WraithAzraiel · February 2015

cfnxhael wrote: »

Some people have alot of stuffs and I think in 1.6 there should be a Auction House like every MMO.Thats way we can sell our items,potions,weapons ETC.Im pretty sure Zenimax knows this stuffs but why no AH why ((

Because you can belong to 5 guilds at 1 time, having Trade guilds is not only a fresh look at how to handle a player-run economy but it also allows for the avoidance of the pitfalls that come with such a thing.

Like the super rich cornering the market on rare materials. Like people constantly underselling each other until an item that was once desirable and costly is useless and cheap.

No thanks, I'm good with not having an AH. Sure it's convenient but is running to a bank really that much of a pain for you? If you answer yes, you might have a larger problem.

Deheart · February 2015

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

An auction house will effectively kill all Guild Stores and invalidate them.
It would also drive the price of everything to the lowest possible (mean) figure and also remove any chance of bargains for those intrepid travellers out there that do bother to explore and go to other guild trade sites in other areas.

Gone will be the days where you can pick up a Barbarian Motif for 5k

You know, out of all the threads and posts I read and or skimmed though about this subject, this post is the one that actually changed my mind on wanting a centralized AH system. Simple and to the point.

Two good solid points @P3ZZL3

Elridge · February 2015

lordrichter wrote: »

One of the problems with ESO right now is that, while I can find out who has a kiosk, I have no way to contact them. We need to have a way to be able to contact guilds in the game. That, alone, would solve a lot of problems.

It shows all of the sellers account names? you can contact them pretty easy just by /w or mail. From there you could ask them your questions about the guild or ask to put you in contact with one of their officers/guildmaster

Thelon · February 2015

Implementing an AH would effectively dissolve the Trade Guilds that GMs have spent months building. We work hard to establish large communities of traders to make our Trade Guilds fun, competitive and effective.

The current system is not perfect, and we meet with the CMs regularly to provide feedback. Truly blind bids and ways for newcomers to express their interest in joining a certain guild should be top priorities.

Improve the current system, don't destroy it with an AH.

Iluvrien · February 2015

Dear. Azura. No.

Not now, not ever, please?

I actually enjoy the current system. I have maintained that view even since ESO CS and their inability to actually take an action contributed to the near-death of our guild and the loss of our guild store.

I explore all of the areas in the game. A lot. And so I run across a lot of the smaller kiosks out in the wilderness as well as in the cities. It is actually a nice bonus to the game, for me, to encounter a new kiosk (and guild) and get a feel for what they currently seem to be focussing on and how well stocked it is. There is also a pleasant "Ooh, I wonder if they have anything fun and useful?"

You see, I don't go to the kiosks hunting for specific items. I visit kiosks (or revisit them) as I encounter them and pick up things I think I might need on a preemptive basis. Does this mean that occasionally I buy things I end up not needing? Very rarely, yes. I figure that gold is going into the game economy anyway so it can only be to the good overall. On the other hand I am never needing to dash round stores looking for the next thing I need because the chances are that I already have it.

The UI could do with some work such as the inclusion of saved searches etc. but overall I like the system and I hope that it stays.

Roechacca · February 2015

So let me get this straight . Because some people like traveling all over Tamriel to do their shopping , everyone is suppose to suffer through hours of lost game time trying to locate affordable bargains ? No one seemed to care my lol button was removed because it was a "nuisance" . So why should We who don't like it put up with this "nuisance" ?

The only compromise I read that was rational was making one small Bazaar town for each faction that would have all their representative guild Kiosks focused in one easily accessible area . That's a compromise but not as bad for those of us tired of running all over Tamriel .

Parrotbrain · February 2015

I would just like one more improvement to the system. In the journal tab they should add a directory of all the guild traders accessible by that character and which guild currently owns them. The option to teleport to the wayshrine nearest to that guild trader should also be accessible in that directory. This will allow people to streamline their transactions.

If a guild which you know gives good deals etc. suddenly shifts to another trader it is currently not always easy to track where they went

Elsonso · February 2015

Elridge wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

One of the problems with ESO right now is that, while I can find out who has a kiosk, I have no way to contact them. We need to have a way to be able to contact guilds in the game. That, alone, would solve a lot of problems.

It shows all of the sellers account names? you can contact them pretty easy just by /w or mail. From there you could ask them your questions about the guild or ask to put you in contact with one of their officers/guildmaster

Oh. Excellent point. I had not considered that.

RainfeatherUK · February 2015

Sorry im also with ZoS on this one.

Global AH is a prerequisite to an over saturated and broken economy - which is actually whats 'common' in other mmos.

People are far too impatient. The current system actually introduces quite an interesting variable to trade, thats my angle anyway.

Shazanti · February 2015

I'm a relatively new player in ESO, and I thought at first I was going to miss a global Auction House.

After playing for a while, however, I wound up really liking the Guild Store system. I must admit I've never been a fan of zone chat for selling, at least not when it overwhelms any OTHER chat for the zone with the flood of spam that zone chat selling entails, though I know it's often the best way to sell certain items (particularly high demand/rare/valuable ones). But the Guild Store system, while perhaps 'less convenient' than a global AH, is much better for the economy and for any players that care to take the time to search prices on various Stores.

I personally like it. Heck, it kind of reminds me of an improved/expanded version of the original incarnation of EverQuest's 'The Bazaar' from The Shadows of Luclin expansion years ago. (looks up the launch date on a whim to see HOW many years ago... Dec. 2001... *chokes* 13 years?! jeez...)

Ourorboros · February 2015

I'm not in favor of AH. I make more than enough gold with guild stores.The current system works well on the selling side, since you can access your stores in every bank. About half my sales are outside the guild, which is proof enough to me the system works. It's the buy side of the current system that needs work. I agree that too much travel is required currently. TBH, I rarely check with the remote vendors, concentrating instead on major city vendor hubs. I like the idea of concentrating vendors more in major cities, preferably close to wayshrines, a la Windhelm, Mournhold, Rawl'kha. I loved the thread suggestion to have a journal tab showing vendor locations with the ability to travel to them. Three add-ons make current system much better: AdvancedFilters, AwesomeGuildStore, and Shopkeeper or Master Merchant.

TL:DR Selling system works well already. Buying system needs to make changes to cut down on travel.

Iluvrien · February 2015

roechacca wrote: »

So let me get this straight . Because some people like traveling all over Tamriel to do their shopping , everyone is suppose to suffer through hours of lost game time trying to locate affordable bargains ?

Not at all. I certainly wasn't trying to suggest that my way was the only way. I hope that was the intention of others also.

My post, as I can't speak for others, was about how I look at the current system and why I don't have a problem with it... and how I even find certain aspects (although not the UI) positive.

Might that be something to consider? I hope so.
Do I expect that to have a direct impact on the game anyone else is playing? Nope.

wraith808 · February 2015

roechacca wrote: »

So let me get this straight . Because some people like traveling all over Tamriel to do their shopping , everyone is suppose to suffer through hours of lost game time trying to locate affordable bargains ? No one seemed to care my lol button was removed because it was a "nuisance" . So why should We who don't like it put up with this "nuisance" ?

The only compromise I read that was rational was making one small Bazaar town for each faction that would have all their representative guild Kiosks focused in one easily accessible area . That's a compromise but not as bad for those of us tired of running all over Tamriel .

No, people are expressing their opinions that they don't want an AH in a rational manner, and giving their reasons for the same.

I see only one argument for that you've expressed. Convenience.

I see several against- the living economy, the ability to avoid the pitfalls of several other games with price fixers, the ability find bargains and really play the market as it would have been in the time, the comraderie that has been built up in the trade guilds.

Care to participate and add anymore to the cons directive? Or is it really just about convenience? Because there seem to be more supporters of not than to at least in this thread... but you've said everyone, which seems disingenuous at best...

BigM · February 2015

No don't put an Auction house in game like all the others. We needed something different and you gave it to us. Other than the loyalty program you guys have done a lot of great things here.

Laerania_ESO · February 2015

Some answers here remember me the candlestick makers' petition. Please government, force people to buy my overpriced stuff only.<lol>

Eso need a better and UNRESTRICTED trading system. Not necessarily centralized.

The current trading system not only put ESO behind the mmorpg standards in this matter but leave a part of the community OUT of the economy; forcing people to join a guild, to socialize, to spam the chat, to trade "face to face" when they want to sell their wares is not innovative, it is part of the past when Auction Houses were not possible due to technical reasons.

It is not possible to buy everything, hoard it and control the market when the inventory is limited. Also, even if the supply is not restricted artificially like now (leaving part of the community out of the trading system), the minimum value of the items is set by ZOS. The rest is efficiency, competition and perseverance. Don't be afraid.

Stop pretending your worry about the ingame economy, most of you who don't care about it as long as your trading guilds oligopolize the market, making you rich.

Elridge · February 2015

Laerania_ESO wrote: »

Stop pretending your worry about the ingame economy, most of you who don't care about it as long as your trading guilds oligopolize the market, making you rich.

Proud card carrying member of absolutely no trading guild since March of 2014

. doing things face to face might be an older way of doing things, but being social in an MMO isn't exactly a bad thing in my opinion, these days making people socialize in an MMO actually seems pretty innovative with the amount of things we have the capabilities to do ourselves? I just talk to people if I want to sell things, or give them to someone else to sell for me and give them a cut of it, I haven't had to do that in an MMO for 10 years now, and I myself (apparently as well as alot of other people) am pretty happy to have one of the social aspects back.

roechacca wrote: »

So let me get this straight . Because some people like traveling all over Tamriel to do their shopping , everyone is suppose to suffer through hours of lost game time trying to locate affordable bargains ? No one seemed to care my lol button was removed because it was a "nuisance" . So why should We who don't like it put up with this "nuisance" ?

The only compromise I read that was rational was making one small Bazaar town for each faction that would have all their representative guild Kiosks focused in one easily accessible area . That's a compromise but not as bad for those of us tired of running all over Tamriel .

The current system allows people to purchase things for exactly what they are willing to pay for it, if you aren't willing to look around and put the effort into finding a good price.. you get to buy items a bit more pricey. Seems straight forward and fair, the people who are willing to actually put in effort into things generally get a better outcome then the impatient. It's not because people "like" traveling everywhere.. it's because they are willing to do it for a better price then the guy who is unwilling to do the same. Personally, I only check a few of the spots with 5 traders, because that is what I am willing to do to make the purchase. If some other player goes and checks more then me, +1 to him if he finds a better deal.

I've got some nice stacks of alchemical reagents in some random places for cheap just because I was willing to actually check.. with an AH the chance of that happening would be nearly completely gone, everyone's price would be the same.

it's the same as a person willing to take the time to think out and research their build, as opposed to the person who just picks whatever skills and hopes it works. Obviously, the one who put thought into it will have a better outcome.

Though I can see them compromising with a somewhat larger bazaar or more places with multiple trade posts.

Spottswoode · February 2015

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

A good compromise would be to consolidate the kiosks into a true bazaar. So instead of having them spread across all zones, just have one bazaar per faction. As long as there remain a few kiosks out in the boondocks, new guilds still would have a chance to establish themselves.

Eyevea would make a good centralized trading hub that would be usable for all factions. Not to mention it would be readily accessible from every town with a mage's guild portal. As it stands, no one actually goes there unless they need to craft Eyes of Mara or Shalidor's Curse sets. Kind of a waste of prime real estate. Granted, newbies would have to finish the Mage's Guild quest line to access it but it would substantially cut down on travel time for vet players looking for items.

Frawr · February 2015

If we had 1 AH then everything would be a race to the bottom. Cheap cheap cheap. No-one will make money and people will quit selling.

I prefer the current system whereby you either buy from the nearest or hunt for a bargain. It provides more depth than 1 global AH because it forces players to do some thinking in order to get the best price.

Basically, it allows 1 person to be better/richer/stronger/smarter than another person.

Good.

Nikolas · February 2015

I'll say NO to AH as well.
Not that it maters since I'm sure ZOS will add it someday as with everything else they said "no" at the past. I am still here after the f2p fiasco because I love Tamriel not ESO so feel free to betray us once again ZOS I don't care. I'm enjoying the current system though, love the guild system for selling and buying.

Keepercraft · February 2015

Frawr wrote: »

If we had 1 AH then everything would be a race to the bottom. Cheap cheap cheap. No-one will make money and people will quit selling.

I prefer the current system whereby you either buy from the nearest or hunt for a bargain. It provides more depth than 1 global AH because it forces players to do some thinking in order to get the best price.

Basically, it allows 1 person to be better/richer/stronger/smarter than another person.

Good.

No global AH, give that fun like in EVEonline, to be a real merchant.

Theosis · February 2015

Cogo wrote: »

Not this again. AH isnt needed...

...Buying and selling in ESO is very easy. But you have to DO something. Lazy people hates it....

I work constantly, I have a child, shoud l I spend my 1 hour a day looking for a #*&^ guild store. Your statement is rude.

Theosis · February 2015

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

A good compromise would be to consolidate the kiosks into a true bazaar. So instead of having them spread across all zones, just have one bazaar per faction. As long as there remain a few kiosks out in the boondocks, new guilds still would have a chance to establish themselves.

This is a great idea! There should be entrances to this area in many places. Kind of like a que for Cyrodiil but to the market!

clocksstoppe · February 2015

cfnxhael wrote: »

Some people have alot of stuffs and I think in 1.6 there should be a Auction House like every MMO.Thats way we can sell our items,potions,weapons ETC.Im pretty sure Zenimax knows this stuffs but why no AH why ((

I disagree with your post. And I won't provide my reasoning, I don't want to.

Bring back dislike button or suffer the bloat, ZOS.

Nazon_Katts · February 2015

Theosis wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

A good compromise would be to consolidate the kiosks into a true bazaar. So instead of having them spread across all zones, just have one bazaar per faction. As long as there remain a few kiosks out in the boondocks, new guilds still would have a chance to establish themselves.

This is a great idea! There should be entrances to this area in many places. Kind of like a que for Cyrodiil but to the market!

I'd rather see it added to an actual zone. It's just ~40 kiosks per faction we're talking here and with phasing there wouldn't be a need for an extra instance. This could be an opportunity to turn the factions' respective capitals into the buzzing centers of power they should be.