LoL Option Gone?!

Varicite · February 2015

Remove all of the stupid buttons if people are so ridiculous that they feel they absolutely NEED some sort of easy button to click to try to belittle others.

It's a discussion forum. People should discuss things.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

You cannot disagree with someone without making some anonymous quip? If you disagree post you disagree.

No, I did not say that I couldn't, actually. I generally "voice" my opinion as well as a click of a button, thank you. However, as this thread proves, something else will be used. So the options then become, A. Give us a disagree button or B. Remove them all. Problem solved

Or C use them as they are supposed to be used.

Psychobunni · February 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think the whole lol and disagree buttons should stay gone. If you do not agree post why you do not agree. Dont just click a button.

I would hazard to guess that more than a few disagrees would gain a report.

Kikazaru · February 2015

Aww, my lols were all "genuine".

Samadhi · February 2015

So now required to commit to quoting posts and responding with "lol"?

So much work.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2015

Hmmm I don't see any interactions anymore. I will miss them a lot.
Otherwise I like how this works on my iPhone

Valen_Byte · February 2015

My goodness, everyone in this thread is so insightful!

Teargrants · February 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Why zos whyyyyyyyyyyyy?! Where is the logic behind this? God forbid we have a means of indicating that we feel someone's post is silly and/or incorrect.

Ok from now on, let us all agree to use "insightful" replace "lol", which was previously used to replace "disagree".

You guys can still express your negativity. Just put it in a reply... The o only difference is you can't do it anonymously anymore.

If you do make insightful your new lol, I really don't think anyone will mind at all.

Really dude? Is that really the best argument you can come up with, discounting using a button to express disagreement with a post as just expressing "negativity" "anonymously"? By that logic, why not remove all buttons then, so ppl can't express their positivity anonymously? Or is this where we get to the double standard; that somehow negative feedback is taboo and god forbid someone were to feel bad because someone clicked disagree on their post.

First off, what is wrong with expressing a negative opinion on a forum for a rated M game of all things?

What is wrong with anonymous feedback over the internet? Everyone on this forum is supposed to be an adult, why not treat them like adults? If ppl can't take negativity/trolls on the internet, they really have no business coming to online forums. I'm just really tired of all this babying - removing 'disagree' in beta, and now removing 'lol'.

IrishGirlGamer · February 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

Awww I only LOL'd when I thought it was funny :'(

This is a bit frustrating, particularly if you used the buttons as they were intended. The buttons, on this and other forums, are meant to stop the spamming posts that offer nothing more than "I agree" or "That's funny." Without the buttons, I would expect to see more of that spamming.

Having an LOL button allowed me to share a laugh with someone whose post I found funny, humorous or cute. I always assumed people were laughing with me, not at me - and if not, well, they shouldn't have hidden behind a button.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think the whole lol and disagree buttons should stay gone. If you do not agree post why you do not agree. Dont just click a button.

Really then, they should just get rid of all the buttons. I don't agree with every post and I'm sure as the sunrise not everyone agrees with mine. Having buttons which mean nothing or mean different things to different people is foolish. This isn't kindergarten. Most of us behave like adults and can be expected to exercise some degree of self-control.

However, what is particularly foolish and misleading is if the Devs use this forum as a means of assessing any kind of feedback, then monitor that feedback to any degree based on upon the silly Insightful/Agree/Awesome buttons. If that's the case, it's really time to kiss the buttons goodbye.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

There is no need to get rid of the positive ones. Only the negative ones cause issues. Im pretty sure the devs do not base decisions on who has the most lols, agrees or disagrees.

TheBull · February 2015

super lame....

TheBull · February 2015

Sacadon wrote: »

Insightful is the new LOL

brb gonna go try it now.

NadiusMaximus · February 2015

Lol

Wow that was hard.

Iluvrien · February 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There is no need to get rid of the positive ones. Only the negative ones cause issues. Im pretty sure the devs do not base decisions on who has the most lols, agrees or disagrees.

I think it has to do with a fundamental difference with agreeing and disagreeing with something.

If you agree with something (without caveats) then there is pretty much nothing more you can say apart from "I agree". Because what is, effectively, being said is "Everything that you have said here goes for me too". The post doesn't contain much more information than the button press.

If you disagree with something then I believe that it immediately becomes more complex. I can't speak for other people but I tend to disagree with things for a reason. Just clicking on a disagree/lol button does nothing to share or explain that reason and so doesn't tend to further the discussion much. So in this case a post would add information that the button press wouldn't.

Anyway, that is just how I see it. Feel free to disagree

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Roechacca · February 2015

This is terrible that was my favorite badge

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

Iluvrien wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There is no need to get rid of the positive ones. Only the negative ones cause issues. Im pretty sure the devs do not base decisions on who has the most lols, agrees or disagrees.

I think it has to do with a fundamental difference with agreeing and disagreeing with something.

If you agree with something (without caveats) then there is pretty much nothing more you can say apart from "I agree". Because what is, effectively, being said is "Everything that you have said here goes for me too". The post doesn't contain much more information than the button press.

If you disagree with something then I believe that it immediately becomes more complex. I can't speak for other people but I tend to disagree with things for a reason. Just clicking on a disagree/lol button does nothing to share or explain that reason and so doesn't tend to further the discussion much. So in this case a post would add information that the button press wouldn't.

Anyway, that is just how I see it. Feel free to disagree .

You said it better than I did. This is what I meant by we dont need to get rid of the agree button etc but a lol or disagree is not needed. If Im a dev I want to know why you disagree. Not just you clicked a button but give feedback.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

roechacca wrote: »

This is terrible that was my favorite badge

Shhh! You will get people complaining they cannot get the LOL badge anymore hehe

xMovingTarget · February 2015

The Forums got nurfed! Nurf dem lol buttonZ

Dru1076 · February 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Why zos whyyyyyyyyyyyy?! Where is the logic behind this? God forbid we have a means of indicating that we feel someone's post is silly and/or incorrect.

Ok from now on, let us all agree to use "insightful" replace "lol", which was previously used to replace "disagree".

You guys can still express your negativity. Just put it in a reply... The o only difference is you can't do it anonymously anymore.

If you do make insightful your new lol, I really don't think anyone will mind at all.

Really dude? Is that really the best argument you can come up with, discounting using a button to express disagreement with a post as just expressing "negativity" "anonymously"? By that logic, why not remove all buttons then, so ppl can't express their positivity anonymously? Or is this where we get to the double standard; that somehow negative feedback is taboo and god forbid someone were to feel bad because someone clicked disagree on their post.

First off, what is wrong with expressing a negative opinion on a forum for a rated M game of all things?

What is wrong with anonymous feedback over the internet? Everyone on this forum is supposed to be an adult, why not treat them like adults? If ppl can't take negativity/trolls on the internet, they really have no business coming to online forums. I'm just really tired of all this babying - removing 'disagree' in beta, and now removing 'lol'.

Yup, really dude. We are mostly adults, but it seems many are not mature adults. And your demands for a "I don't like your post but I don't want to say why or let you know who I am" button is evidence of that.

I don't think we need a troll button, and honestly that is what LOL was being used for, as is proved by you and other people in this thread bemoaning its loss, given the reasons most supply. I'm grateful, cuz now i have earned my first insightful badge today, and I believe I have you to thank for that. Cheers.

Personally, I did use it when I found genuine humour in the forum, and that's why I will miss it.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · February 2015

guess you will just have to quote and proceed to civilly disagree. I think 50 well argued disagreements will go a lot farther that 50 lol what an ....

IrishGirlGamer · February 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

What is wrong with anonymous feedback over the internet? Everyone on this forum is supposed to be an adult, why not treat them like adults? If ppl can't take negativity/trolls on the internet, they really have no business coming to online forums. I'm just really tired of all this babying - removing 'disagree' in beta, and now removing 'lol'.

You really have to ask? Really? That's almost ... funny.

If you're an adult, act like one - and sign your name.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There is no need to get rid of the positive ones. Only the negative ones cause issues. Im pretty sure the devs do not base decisions on who has the most lols, agrees or disagrees.

Okay, James, let me try this again: There was nothing disagreeable about the LOL button UNTIL Zeni got rid of the disagree button. Then it came to mean something else and that something, as your correctly noted, was negative.

My point was that, if people are going to use stupid buttons to mean something other than they were intended (such as insightful is now the new "I think this is stupid" button), then the buttons are not working, are they? We can keep them, of course, but it won't mean anything because they mean different things to different people. We should either of all the buttons or none of them.

And I think a laugh is a positive thing.

Iluvrien wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There is no need to get rid of the positive ones. Only the negative ones cause issues. Im pretty sure the devs do not base decisions on who has the most lols, agrees or disagrees.

I think it has to do with a fundamental difference with agreeing and disagreeing with something ...

I agree with that entire insightful post. However, I feel the need to say it as I have no idea what the freakin buttons mean anymore.

Vyndeleron · February 2015

Zenimax has taken our lols so yall need to hide yo insighfuls hide yo agrees and hide yo awesomes cause our reactions are in jeopardy

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

Noone is going to use insightful as the new "I want to troll this post anonymously" button. If they do there should be corrective action taken for misusing the forums. Maybe after a few perm bans people will act like adults.

Maverick827 · February 2015

Did Jessica or Gina just post that they were investigating adding the "Disagree" button back yesterday or something?

DeLindsay · February 2015

ZoS is already considering adding a "Disagree" button. The LOL button was ambiguous anyway as some used it because they didn't like the comment, others because they thought the comment was hilarious, and others still just because they don't like that poster.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · February 2015

I think they should reconsider. There is no real use for a disagree button. It tells them nothing.

Samadhi · February 2015

DeLindsay wrote: »

ZoS is already considering adding a "Disagree" button. The LOL button was ambiguous anyway as some used it because they didn't like the comment, others because they thought the comment was hilarious, and others still just because they don't like that poster.

So we'll have a civilized button to press in disagreement with bad posts instead of arguments after all?

What a shame; was looking forward to the flamefests of a b2p forum where people who disagreed had no option but to respond to the poster.

Drazhar14 · February 2015

Tamriel is in a state of war. ZOS decided now is not the time for laughter!

Sacadon · February 2015

TheBull wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

Insightful is the new LOL

brb gonna go try it now.

TequilaFire · February 2015

They should just do away with the flags all together since they don't seem to get it.
First forum ever I have been on where the flags were such an issue.