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Nerf the Veteran Rank XP again...it's pointless and adds no depth to the game...

  • TheShadowScout
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    They are in the progress of changing the whole system. Silly to demand they throw an unplanned change into the mix. Especially one for the "gimme" crowd...

    Remember, the current content, silver, gold, craglorn is all balanced around a veteran rank progression. Changing the way those ranks are gained would mean people would breeze through some content when they are already V14 (or level 63, whichever you want to name it) halfway through silver.
    Good for those who want to get to the endgame Fast, bad for everyone who actually likes seeing how their alt does in this boss fight, or that quest... (I know I derive a lot of enjoyment from learning what works better or worse, seeing which of my alts has an easier time then my maind on thos or that fight, and which has a harder...)

    The veteran ranks now work as they were intended, they just were a suboptimal solution to the whole post-50 thing. Soon we will start to earn c-points, and somewhen in/around/after summer I would assume they will implement the last stage of the champion system and remove veteran ranks altogether, letting each have their gains through the champion system pool and how its spent.

    And then... as has been mentioned... everyone who gets to 50 will already be as viable on their alt as they are on their main. Still missing some skill points, true, and not yet geared up (though they can get sent good stuff from their main through bank), but within those limitations... fully viable for all post-50 stuff.

    It's coming... not as fast as many would like, but its coming.
  • Robbmrp
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    Jaxsun wrote: »
    Make the increase per level the same as 1-49. Please and thank you.

    Have you tried the PTS with Champion Points? Wait till you try to grind those out!
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  • Digiman
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    Hexcaliber wrote: »
    Veteran levels are about to go the way of the dinosaur with 1.6, why start a pointless qq thread at the 11th hour?

    Agreed, they are already on the way out of the office building with their box of stuff. I see no point in actually adjusting a fired system.
  • technohic
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    Hexcaliber wrote: »
    Veteran levels are about to go the way of the dinosaur with 1.6, why start a pointless qq thread at the 11th hour?

    Speculation is that they may at least be around still almost as long as they have been until now. If they wind up going anywhere at all.
  • Jaxsun
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    sagitter wrote: »
    Qq for everythig here, they are working on a total revamp of gameplay with 1.6 , and you are whining because can t do v14. Anyway they said that VT and CT will coexist for a time , it s a delicate process, can't be night and day at same time.

    I already have a vr14 before the original nerf....merely pointing out how fail it still is and that it should be changed since the vr ranks will not be removed for several months or longer if at all..
  • Robbmrp
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    technohic wrote: »
    Hexcaliber wrote: »
    Veteran levels are about to go the way of the dinosaur with 1.6, why start a pointless qq thread at the 11th hour?

    Speculation is that they may at least be around still almost as long as they have been until now. If they wind up going anywhere at all.

    Vet levels will still be in the system come June with the console launch.
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  • Lord_Draevan
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    I believe ZOS should never have given in to the community and added Cadwell's Silver/Gold in the first place (Yeah, at first there was no going into the other alliance areas, it was added due to fan request). Max level should have been 50, you want to see the other faction's zone=make an alt in that faction. But no, ZOS caved to the demand. Then people say ZOS never listens ;P
    It's not so bad that it exists, more so that you pretty much HAVE to do Cadwell's... or else you grind for weeks on end doing Cyrodiil dailies.
    Edited by Lord_Draevan on February 12, 2015 6:56PM
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  • AlnilamE
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    If you think it's ugly now, you should have seen it when the req went up with each subsequent level.

    I remember those days. I think I got to V6-7 before they changed it. After that, it was a breeze getting to V14. I didn't even have to try. Just had to run around having fun with friends.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Hey, I loved playing through Cadwells! And will do it again on all my alts, in due time...

    But I can see that some wouldn't, so it'd have been better to make it optional from the start...
  • Winnower
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    leave the xp you get and the difficulty the same. let levels go to 150 for through gold content and even up to 200 for post gold (craglorn, etc.)...

    ha ha hahaha HAHA, NO REALLY am i really saying this?
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  • snowmanflvb14_ESO
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    Troneon wrote: »
    A LFG tool for dungeons would be nice as well. Tired of spamming zone chat.

    there already is a lfg tool...hit your group tab then select the lfg in the upper right then select dungeons or world etc
    Edited by snowmanflvb14_ESO on February 12, 2015 6:59PM
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  • Soulshine
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    If you think it's ugly now, you should have seen it when the req went up with each subsequent level.

    I remember those days. I think I got to V6-7 before they changed it. After that, it was a breeze getting to V14. I didn't even have to try. Just had to run around having fun with friends.

    I am in this group as well and have to say I didn't find making levels difficult despite we had to earn so much more xp than what is needed now. But then I did really like doing quests so it seemed normal for me. Taking additional alts to vr14 does feel like a drag though, but that has more to do with having already seen everything than the system itself being too slow. If you want to see slow, look at the rate of CPs on PTS.
    Edited by Soulshine on February 12, 2015 7:00PM
  • eliisra
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    Durban wrote: »
    Yes lets nerf the XP we are going to need to level our champion points when 1.6 launches, brilliant idea.

    Or they could decrease the amount needed to gain a VR rank with let's say 50%, without nerfing the actual exp you get from kills and quests. That way future CP exp, will stay intact.

    I never understood why getting level 50 takes like 3 days, while max VR takes 3 months. Needs to be more balanced and consistent. Not just the slow VR grind but also the generous exp is at lower levels. You cant do more than maybe 20% of a map and the main quests, than you're out-levelling the area and have to move on.

    VR ranks will probably still be here 6 months from now, so it's not that pointless to have a discussion about it.
  • AlnilamE
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    No it doesn't. Completing the normal zones gets you to level 50. Completing Silver gets you at least to V5 and completing Gold gets you to V10. 5 VR level = 50 normal levels.

    Not sure why it seems to you that it takes longer.
    The Moot Councillor
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