I agree, If they had made the quests with using your brain more instead of go wherever the magical markers sends you, questing, exploring, and dungeon diving would have been a million times better. As it is now, questing is just atrocious.

DarkAedin wrote: »

i agree as well, the leveling process in an mmo is supposed to be where the player learns game mechanics and how to play.
the origional vet level areas were pretty good, by forcing ppl to l2p, but now, ur just 1 shotting things in 1-50 zones, and 2-3 shotting things in vet zones.

how is one supposed to be prepared for any type of end game content if this is what we have to learn on?

This is why there are Trolls, Over-World Bosses, and Anchors.

I did feel a bit more squishy on PTS though, as in unable to AoE down 10 enemies and a boss, pressing 2 buttons while still sipping my coffee. Felt promising, considering how brain-dead it is right now.

But I dont want go back to the first months of ESO, where I would insta-die in VR6-10 zones because I missed one single block or weapon swap failed. Pack of normal mobs required planning, positioning, buffing up, ulti ready, cc and no mistakes allowed. To much work for basic landscape cruising, that's suppose to be relaxing.

Maybe 1.6 can offer some sort of middle way?

Yes.

Snit wrote: »

The overland content must cater to players with relatively little game knowledge and skill. If it doesn't, they can't really advance.

If you want a challenge in TESO, you can find it. But you have to leave something for the utterly casual.

Exactly this. Not everyone is a MMO vet. Lv1-50 = learning zone, vet zones = perfecting zones. I personally would prefer no vet zones, not compulsory anyway. But to do endgame content, they helped me a lot to further understand the game.
The challenge is in endgame stuff, though it is too little at the moment

From personal experience, some people will never ever be able to "Master" their class.

So some people would never get past Veteran Zones thus never allowing it to see Craiglorn and such. Why ?

Many people pick Skills/Armor/Weapons that they like without thinking of how useful it is.

Example.

Person A : "I really love to use Bows, however I want be like an Agent so I wear Cloth so it is "Easier" to move around. And those skills that I got make my character look so cool!"

Some people just want to play with looks cool and feels cool to them additionally aren't good gamers so they don't have good timings and such to help out their bad build choices. So you want to ramp up the difficulty to make all of those people quit the game ? They already have hard time killing 3 mobs togethers, if you want Challenge you go End-Game and there should be choices for people... Hard challenges, Medium Challenges and Easy Challenges. Something for everyone. While reaching End-Game content should be available to everyone not just those who like Medium and Hard Challenges.

I am extremely disappointed by how many of you want to tune up difficulty. If not every single ability with full Health build doesn't kill mobs easily, then it shouldn't be increased in difficulty.

Kragorn wrote: »

DarkAedin wrote: »

2-3 shotting things in vet zones.

Stop exaggerating, there's no way ON LEVEL you can do that on anything other than a totally OP build, the VR mobs are a PITA not because they're hard but because they take too long to kill, trash isn't dangerous just damned tedious.

It's by no means an exaggeration. All you have to do is wield a bow and use [Snipe] and you can VERY EASILY take down casters in 2 hits... it takes more if they're armored, granted, but [Mark Target] rectifies this.

It takes about 1-2 more hits per level above your own.

If I use [Veiled Strike], I get similar results.

Karmine wrote: »

I am extremely disappointed by how many of you want to tune up difficulty. If not every single ability with full Health build doesn't kill mobs easily, then it shouldn't be increased in difficulty.

I don't think it's fair to condemn people who want a more challenging experience, similar to how it's not fair to condemn people who want an easier experience. Frustration from difficulty is a two way street, a player desiring a challenge could be frustrated enough to have their experience ruined in the same way a player unable to defeat a monster could have their experience ruined. Neither is wrong for that feeling. That said, I understand the necessity for a design choice to be made and that they chose for the difficulty to be tuned down to the lowest common denominator.

Content 1-50 is a little too easy once you have done it once and learnt the game mechanics, it needs to push people a little more as they progress but at the same time not too much more because not everyone is an MMO vet and it needs to allow new players to come in and learn without being discouraged.

Vet Areas started about right when the game launched in that they were quite tough and forced you to learn to properly use skills, doges and so on which you could get by without in 1-50 content. But rather foolishly ZOS nerfed it quite a lot in response to criticism without really grasping, IMO, what the criticism was actually about. Right now I don't feel it helps players get ready for vet dungeons or trials or PvP where some get a rude awakening as content steps up quite a lot.

As always though the problem is that ZOS have to cater for everyone from MMO pros through 'semi-serious casual' gamers like me through to 'true casual' gamers who will go if they can't get through the content.

Personally I think it could stand to be ramped up a bit but as always the key to doing this is not a blanket HP x 1.5 type approach but a more careful review of each type of mob and boss to ensure they don't end up braking things.

Overland stuff isnt supposed to be difficult.

It use to be a lot more difficult and this had a definite reward feeling to completing anything...in closed BETA.

I think this was in the October - November 2013 months. It was then made too easy after 2014 at some point.

I would gladly welcome that difficulty level back which also promotes co-op play BUT this would also need to remove the solo-only main story and guild quests which seems to be why the overall difficulty and lowered so much.

Perfectly fine the way it is.