Barber shop feature. Directly into the game or cash shop feature?

LordSkyKnight · February 2015

If and when they put a barber shop into the game, do you want it to go directly into the game or do you want it to appear in the cash shop?

I have been reading talk about people wanting to see a barber shop in the game to make changes to their character. Some people seem to want to put it directly into the cash shop and I hope this never happens. I hope they put it directly into the game just as they did with their dye system.

Shunravi · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

While I would like for it to just be included in the main game, if they deem they need it for revenue you can bet it will be in the cash shop.

Selique · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Why pay for something we could potentially get for free? Seems like a simple choice to me.... FREE OF CHARGE!

Slurg · February 2015

I think they should do both so people can choose whether they wish to pay for this feature with in game gold or with crowns.

Most of us know by now based on what we've been told about the new B2P model that if a new feature is purely cosmetic, it will go into the cash shop.

But there could be some really interesting and fun game play built around putting this feature in game as a gold sink so I hope they will consider doing this too.

Shunravi · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Slurg wrote: »

I think they should do both so people can choose whether they wish to pay for this feature with in game gold or with crowns.

Most of us know by now based on what we've been told about the new B2P model that if a new feature is purely cosmetic, it will go into the cash shop.

But there could be some really interesting and fun game play built around putting this feature in game as a gold sink so I hope they will consider doing this too.

I think that was the original intention. I think they wanted it so that players could give it to each other too...

Fingers crossed about the whole thing.

Gedalya · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be implemented like the Dye System was; which is to say a new vendor stall/or crafting styled station. KISS.

Leeric · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

I mean it won't be for free if they do it, but ill vote that way anyways

Gidorick · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

But still sell items for crowns. Or make it so we need an"appointment" and those are sold in the cash shop. A mixture of the two is needed.

Locke_ESO · February 2015

Any new content like this will obviously be pay walled. Either it will require an active membership or be part of the Crown store.

Elder_III · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

I would like to see if free for Subs and Crown Store for non paying players.

Seraphyel · February 2015

Faction / Gender / Race / Name change belongs to the Crown Store, typical Barber stuff should be there for "free" in the game.

phreatophile · February 2015

Undecided.

I picked undecided. Because I don't care how they do it, just get it done.

Ourorboros · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Elder_III wrote: »

I would like to see if free for Subs and Crown Store for non paying players.

Changing my vote. This is how it should be done. Part of the game for subs, Crown store for F2Pers.

eisberg · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

It should be in the store. Something like this is a good revenue maker, and is nothing that is needed for the game. It being included with subscription sounds like a good idea, but have it as a cash shop item for everyone else.

Snit · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

A barbershop is the best possible example of a purely cosmetic change, with no implications on game mechanics. If you don't think it is appropriate for the cash shop, I wonder if you think anything is? Leaving aside "stuff I don't care about anyway."

ZOS has to make money somewhere. It's better for the game if that's from cosmetics than gamble-boxes, stat-boost consumables or the other more impactful stuff you see in other games' shops.

c0rp · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

Free for subs...otherwise shop.

eisberg · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

Snit wrote: »

A barbershop is the best possible example of a purely cosmetic change, with no implications on game mechanics. If you don't think it is appropriate for the cash shop, I wonder if you think anything is? Leaving aside "stuff I don't care about anyway."

ZOS has to make money somewhere. It's better for the game if that's from cosmetics than gamble-boxes, stat-boost consumables or the other more impactful stuff you see in other games' shops.

Going by the logic people have been using, I can tell you how they can consider this as pay to win.

In the past, if you decided you did not like the look of your character, you had to start a new character, losing all that progression you had on your old character, which is also any gold you spent for various things for your old character. If you can buy with real money the ability to change the look with your character, you are effectively buying gold with real money, since you will not lose the investment you already made into that character. Also, if someone who plays exactly the same way as you do, same skill and all, decided they want to change their looks like you did, but not spend real money on it, they have to start all over. This makes it so that even though the 2 of you play the same exact way and times, you get to the max level faster since you paid real money for the cosmetic change, and getting to max level before someone else is winning.

I think that about covers it =D

Gidorick · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

eisberg wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

A barbershop is the best possible example of a purely cosmetic change, with no implications on game mechanics. If you don't think it is appropriate for the cash shop, I wonder if you think anything is? Leaving aside "stuff I don't care about anyway."

ZOS has to make money somewhere. It's better for the game if that's from cosmetics than gamble-boxes, stat-boost consumables or the other more impactful stuff you see in other games' shops.

Going by the logic people have been using, I can tell you how they can consider this as pay to win.

In the past, if you decided you did not like the look of your character, you had to start a new character, losing all that progression you had on your old character, which is also any gold you spent for various things for your old character. If you can buy with real money the ability to change the look with your character, you are effectively buying gold with real money, since you will not lose the investment you already made into that character. Also, if someone who plays exactly the same way as you do, same skill and all, decided they want to change their looks like you did, but not spend real money on it, they have to start all over. This makes it so that even though the 2 of you play the same exact way and times, you get to the max level faster since you paid real money for the cosmetic change, and getting to max level before someone else is winning.

I think that about covers it =D

That's kind of reaching I think.

Shinozuka · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

I prefer Barbershop free.

kieso · February 2015

Undecided.

it'll be on the crownstore more likely. that why when it was brought up they kept saying we're working on it but don't know how we're going to implement it in the game.

they were waiting for cash shop.

EsORising · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

It doesn't feel special if everyone can do it for nothing. Plus who is going to pay the bills for the games development if all this stuff is free. We do like development right?

Tandor · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

Elder_III wrote: »

I would like to see if free for Subs and Crown Store for non paying players.

This sounds right to me.

WraithAzraiel · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Selique wrote: »

Why pay for something we could potentially get for free? Seems like a simple choice to me.... FREE OF CHARGE!

Oh to be young and hopeful again.

In all likelihood they'll be putting it in the cash shop. Because they know people will pay for it, so they know they'll make money off it.

WraithAzraiel · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Gidorick wrote: »

eisberg wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

A barbershop is the best possible example of a purely cosmetic change, with no implications on game mechanics. If you don't think it is appropriate for the cash shop, I wonder if you think anything is? Leaving aside "stuff I don't care about anyway."

ZOS has to make money somewhere. It's better for the game if that's from cosmetics than gamble-boxes, stat-boost consumables or the other more impactful stuff you see in other games' shops.

Going by the logic people have been using, I can tell you how they can consider this as pay to win.

In the past, if you decided you did not like the look of your character, you had to start a new character, losing all that progression you had on your old character, which is also any gold you spent for various things for your old character. If you can buy with real money the ability to change the look with your character, you are effectively buying gold with real money, since you will not lose the investment you already made into that character. Also, if someone who plays exactly the same way as you do, same skill and all, decided they want to change their looks like you did, but not spend real money on it, they have to start all over. This makes it so that even though the 2 of you play the same exact way and times, you get to the max level faster since you paid real money for the cosmetic change, and getting to max level before someone else is winning.

I think that about covers it =D

That's kind of reaching I think.

Maybe, but so are the people claiming everything they're claiming is P2W. They're reaching HARD AS HELL. They're reaching so hard, you'll wish they weren't reaching so hard.

X to the Z Xzibit heard they like reaching, so they put some reach in their reach so they can reach while they grasp at straws.

Teiji · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

This should be free. Obviously and naturally enough.

If this shouldn't be free, then the dye system shouldn't be free.

When thousands of players accidentally pick the wrong dye, and in some cases, the "wrong dye" and submit tickets to support complaining about how similar the two looked, how it looked different in the lighting and so on as they demand their 50 crowns be reimbursed, then spam the forums, reddit and social media about "P2W" and other stuff.

Exotic adornments, like exotic mounts, I could see being the the Crown Store and would be cool cheap items I'd likely buy loads of. There should be some "basic" adornments and extra hair-styles added to the Barber Shop, "exotic" [whatever this means] hair-styles I'd expect to be paid for.

Drawberrry · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

I think that the basis of the barber shop should be implemented directly into the game itself, especially since it's been highly requested since beta. But I would like to see specific things offered in the Crown-Shop; unique hairstyles, tattoo options, and adornments would be interesting to see offered.

Azzuria · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

I actually like the idea of both. A gold sink for those that want to keep away from the Crown Store and a bit of a bonus for those that subscribe.

Jando · February 2015

No, I would like to see it in the cash shop.

To me, this is the perfect kind of thing that should be in the cash shop.

karmamule · February 2015

Drawberrry wrote: »

I think that the basis of the barber shop should be implemented directly into the game itself, especially since it's been highly requested since beta. But I would like to see specific things offered in the Crown-Shop; unique hairstyles, tattoo options, and adornments would be interesting to see offered.

I like this approach too. It would be good to have a basic appearance-shifting barbershop in game for changes to other available-at-start hairstyles, tattoos etc, but have packs of additional new hairstyles (and more SHORT hairstyles for men please!!!) or other added appearance choice packs available in the crown store. And, ideally, these would be pay once to unlock at an account level.

Perhaps some major appearance changes (body size/shape, rearranging your face other than tattoos/coloring) could be in the crown store as well.

Everyone gets something out of it this way: They get to stick some stuff in the crown store that appearance-conscious people will go for, but the basic functionality of switching hairstyles/tattoos etc will be out there for all players to enjoy.

Exavius · February 2015

All of the above, pick one, don't care. Just get it done. Really should be a priority. For the love of humanity, please. Its absence limits game play.

Iluvrien · February 2015

Yes, put it directly into the main game.

Nothing should be available in the crown store that cannot be purchased for in-game gold. Implement it in the main game and, if necessary, sell a token that can be used in that shop from the crown store.

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