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How do we earn CP without any new content
Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP? Now Have I done everything of course not, but I have did the main quest, all of caldwells stuff,all dolmens now I am finishing up the achievements for finishing X about of quests in a certain area. I still do dailies for dungeons and such. With that being said what about those people who have did it all? How will they earn CP?
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.8 -
Sindala✭✭✭✭✭Grind, grind, grind.....Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.4 -
Vulix✭✭✭Pay $10 for the next DLC and pay a subscription to get a exp boost for faster CP.
Get with the times bro you think you can just simply play the game to get good at it these days?4 -
McDoogs✭✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
First of all, pvp is a horribly time inefficient way to level CP, even for great pvpers.
Second, that kind of thinking will put your character so far behind the people who efficiently grind CP that you will be at a large disadvantage in cyrodiil. The steep CP grind hurts casuals more than it hurts the hardcore.
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✭✭✭✭My plan is to stay in Cyrodil and continue to whine about how gimped the XP gain is until they change it.Daggerfall Covenant
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Grind, grind, grind.....
I'm ok with this except don't they change the grind spots once they know people are doing it?Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
I do not like PvP in ESO I have tried multiple times granted I do not have it all figured out but seems like I go out kill some people get killed. Respawn 4 miles away takes 10 minutes to get there to get ganked by an army of the other faction. Maybe I have bad luck but no thanks.Pay $10 for the next DLC and pay a subscription to get a exp boost for faster CP.
Get with the times bro you think you can just simply play the game to get good at it these days?
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✭✭✭✭How do you fill your time now?
Figure that out, then keep doing that thing.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
First of all, pvp is a horribly time inefficient way to level CP, even for great pvpers.
Second, that kind of thinking will put your character so far behind the people who efficiently grind CP that you will be at a large disadvantage in cyrodiil. The steep CP grind hurts casuals more than it hurts the hardcore.
The champion system is not designed to be like obtaining levels where you hit max level in a month or so from PVE, so you can compete at max level in Cyrodiil. The champion system is there to slowly reward and improve your character for playing the endgame. the Cyrodiil endgame is the reason me and alot of people play this. SO why would i want to do something else with all my time like PVE or trials when thats not why i play the game?
The Champion System is a very long term progression. Your telling me to go do PVE for my Champion levels so that in a year I might have 1000 and then come PVP so im a little stronger than if i had just PVPd for that year and only have 700 CPs? NO ill just play the game for the reason I play the game and my character will compete just fine and always keep improving and ill actually have fun because i am doing what i want to do in Cyrodiil for that year.
People need to stop looking at the Champion system like its something you max out right away. Look at it like the Realm Ranks from DAOC which took years to get high rank in and 99% of people never even hit the cap.Edited by Pirhana7_ESO on January 30, 2015 7:38PM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
First of all, pvp is a horribly time inefficient way to level CP, even for great pvpers.
Second, that kind of thinking will put your character so far behind the people who efficiently grind CP that you will be at a large disadvantage in cyrodiil. The steep CP grind hurts casuals more than it hurts the hardcore.
This PvP not giving enough has got to change at some point. I realize they cannot account for how often people are actually engaged and combat and fighting and how long is riding between places but its just so far off, it doesn't really matter.0 -
prototypefb✭✭✭✭My poll with option 3 idea how to handle balance and overall fairness, no judgement, even RPers will earn CP this way or node gatherers.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HypejetJAG wrote: »Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP? Now Have I done everything of course not, but I have did the main quest, all of caldwells stuff,all dolmens now I am finishing up the achievements for finishing X about of quests in a certain area. I still do dailies for dungeons and such. With that being said what about those people who have did it all? How will they earn CP?
basically just gain exp but IF you're done with everything then wouldn't you have the max CP at release already?
Why is this even a question
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spryler✭✭✭They are planning on equalizing XP so that you get the same amount doing PVP, PVE, or whatever.
Question 1 - is that change going to come with 1.6 also?
Question 2 - how well will they actually balance the different XP gains?0 -
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »HypejetJAG wrote: »Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP? Now Have I done everything of course not, but I have did the main quest, all of caldwells stuff,all dolmens now I am finishing up the achievements for finishing X about of quests in a certain area. I still do dailies for dungeons and such. With that being said what about those people who have did it all? How will they earn CP?
basically just gain exp but IF you're done with everything then wouldn't you have the max CP at release already?
Why is this even a question
So 70 CP is the max that's attainable and we're done with it before it's even released? Did you not understand what I was saying? Ok great we got 70 on day 1 awesome great wow thats it? We can't have anymore lol? Come on guy.2 -
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✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »HypejetJAG wrote: »Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP? Now Have I done everything of course not, but I have did the main quest, all of caldwells stuff,all dolmens now I am finishing up the achievements for finishing X about of quests in a certain area. I still do dailies for dungeons and such. With that being said what about those people who have did it all? How will they earn CP?
basically just gain exp but IF you're done with everything then wouldn't you have the max CP at release already?
Why is this even a question
This would have been more true, until #XPtrackinggateDaggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||0 -
Darkintellect✭✭✭HypejetJAG wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »HypejetJAG wrote: »Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP? Now Have I done everything of course not, but I have did the main quest, all of caldwells stuff,all dolmens now I am finishing up the achievements for finishing X about of quests in a certain area. I still do dailies for dungeons and such. With that being said what about those people who have did it all? How will they earn CP?
basically just gain exp but IF you're done with everything then wouldn't you have the max CP at release already?
Why is this even a question
So 70 CP is the max that's attainable and we're done with it before it's even released? Did you not understand what I was saying? Ok great we got 70 on day 1 awesome great wow thats it? We can't have anymore lol? Come on guy.
Additional exp will be gained through killing NPC's that give exp, dungeons, PVP, trials, pledges, Craglorn, as well as the content coming out in June, to include the solo exp zone to mirror Craglorn and last but not least, any exp you gain on an alt who's 50+.Edited by Darkintellect on January 30, 2015 7:49PM1 -
Wolfsspinne✭✭✭HypejetJAG wrote: »Unless I have missed something there is no new content with 1.6. Let's say I have done everything in game. How do I earn exp to earn CP?
Option A:
Play an alt.
Completing the two other factions and Cyrodiil is enough to reach VR11, so you get at least 10 million CP-XP.
Option B:
Do dailies in Cyrodiil.
I got 1 CP for doing 10 quests each in Cheydinhal and Cropsfort.
This takes you 1 hour on a good horse and without PvP.0 -
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✭In the grand scheme of things, the system is indeed built for long, slow progress to some plateau of accomplishments, and yeah you can reach that plateau through various means at varying paces, PvP or PvE, but given that progress is tied to completing content, you cannot forget or diminish that piece of the puzzle.
I don't see this system panning out for either side until such time as they address their lack of consistent delivery of playable content. Now we are hearing that the content delivery pace will slow down even further once B2P launches... so you can see where this is going, right? Grinding repeatble anything gets old really fast.
If that delivery doesn't improve, the CP system will just fall flat on its face into yet another massive grind no matter what game path you follow, and that will just turn people off the game entirely.1 -
McDoogs✭✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
First of all, pvp is a horribly time inefficient way to level CP, even for great pvpers.
Second, that kind of thinking will put your character so far behind the people who efficiently grind CP that you will be at a large disadvantage in cyrodiil. The steep CP grind hurts casuals more than it hurts the hardcore.
The champion system is not designed to be like obtaining levels where you hit max level in a month or so from PVE, so you can compete at max level in Cyrodiil. The champion system is there to slowly reward and improve your character for playing the endgame. the Cyrodiil endgame is the reason me and alot of people play this. SO why would i want to do something else with all my time like PVE or trials when thats not why i play the game?
The Champion System is a very long term progression. Your telling me to go do PVE for my Champion levels so that in a year I might have 1000 and then come PVP so im a little stronger than if i had just PVPd for that year and only have 700 CPs? NO ill just play the game for the reason I play the game and my character will compete just fine and always keep improving and ill actually have fun because i am doing what i want to do in Cyrodiil for that year.
People need to stop looking at the Champion system like its something you max out right away. Look at it like the Realm Ranks from DAOC which took years to get high rank in and 99% of people never even hit the cap.
I'm going to try to explain this to you, although I'm wasting my time because from the sound of things you have made up your mind without actually playing 1.6.
First of all, 1.6 significantly nerfs health pools, regens, and virtually all gear sets. That means when 1.6 rolls out you will be much less powerful than you are now in 1.5. They did it on purpose to allow 'headroom' for character growth through CP.
Second, if you do not grind out a lot of CP, you are going to be at a severe disadvantage against those who do (which will include all the hardcore PvPers who stick around). This is a given. The hardcore will grind their characters so as to not be at a disadvantage. Steep character progressions have been proven time and again to be hardest on the casual players. I made it on the fresh account from level 1 to VR14 in just under 5 days 20 hours /played. Grinders are gonna grind when there are significant benefits to doing so (and there definitely are in the champion system).
Third, PvP is a terrible way to earn CP.Edited by McDoogs on January 30, 2015 8:39PM2 -
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✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
First of all, pvp is a horribly time inefficient way to level CP, even for great pvpers.
Second, that kind of thinking will put your character so far behind the people who efficiently grind CP that you will be at a large disadvantage in cyrodiil. The steep CP grind hurts casuals more than it hurts the hardcore.
The champion system is not designed to be like obtaining levels where you hit max level in a month or so from PVE, so you can compete at max level in Cyrodiil. The champion system is there to slowly reward and improve your character for playing the endgame. the Cyrodiil endgame is the reason me and alot of people play this. SO why would i want to do something else with all my time like PVE or trials when thats not why i play the game?
The Champion System is a very long term progression. Your telling me to go do PVE for my Champion levels so that in a year I might have 1000 and then come PVP so im a little stronger than if i had just PVPd for that year and only have 700 CPs? NO ill just play the game for the reason I play the game and my character will compete just fine and always keep improving and ill actually have fun because i am doing what i want to do in Cyrodiil for that year.
People need to stop looking at the Champion system like its something you max out right away. Look at it like the Realm Ranks from DAOC which took years to get high rank in and 99% of people never even hit the cap.
I'm going to try to explain this to you, although I'm wasting my time because from the sound of things you have made up your mind without actually playing 1.6.
First of all, 1.6 significantly nerfs health pools, regens, and virtually all gear sets. That means when 1.6 rolls out you will be much less powerful than you are now in 1.5. They did it on purpose to allow 'headroom' for character growth through CP.
Second, if you do not grind out a lot of CP, you are going to be at a severe disadvantage against those who do (which will include all the hardcore PvPers who stick around). This is a given. The hardcore will grind their characters so as to not be at a disadvantage. Steep character progressions have been proven time and again to be hardest on the casual players. I made it on the fresh account from level 1 to VR14 in just under 5 days 20 hours /played. Grinders are gonna grind when there are significant benefits to doing so (and there definitely are in the champion system).
Third, PvP is a terrible way to earn CP.
Having been on the PTS, I agree. Which is exactly why I am saying something has to change with the content delivery since actually grinding is not everyone's idea of a good time and I for one have no intention of doing indefinitely just for the CPs1 -
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✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Go to Cyrodiil and participate in the endgame, its kinda the whole theme and purpose for you building and leveling a character, so you can fight for your alliance......... The whole point of the Champion System is a long term endgame progression so you dont hit that "im finished wall" and can always keep making your character slightly better by playing.
Thank Ruptga! Someone else who understands.
So many complaints about the CP system, when in fact it's the player's perception of what they think it is that needs to change.
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i feel sorry for the gamers who think they need to spend the next 6 months grinding spellscar in order to be able to play.5
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✭As others have said OP if you have the 70 Champion Points already from levelling a toon to VR14 then level an alt toon to do the quests again to get XP for Champion points. I'm currently levelling a third toon to VR1 so I'll have a few ready to go when it hits.PUG Life - the true test of your skill
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »IF you're done with everything then wouldn't you have the max CP at release already?
Why is this even a question
Because the max CP you can have at release is 70. The final CP cap is 3600. You might notice a slight difference between those numbers.0
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