Should I give up on sorcs being fixed and just re-roll?

Vulix · January 2015

Seems like if I am going sorc I am just making the game more difficult and less enjoyable for myself. Any suggestions on whether I should stick with it or just re-roll? I haven't tried PTS so I don't know how bad they really are now. Just sad because I picked sorcerer to be a magicka-based fighter, not because I wanted to play 2-pet pokemon

ers101284b14_ESO · January 2015

Stick with it because you know that if you re-roll a different class and spend hours upon hours questing and grinding and doing everything you can to get to VR14 they will just nerf that class into oblivion

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · January 2015

I play a petless Sorc and and fine with it.

Cuyler · January 2015

ZOS has stated that class balancing will remain at a minimum going forward to "let ESO breathe". 1.6 buffs DK and TP, nerfs SC and NB. It will more than likely remain like this for awhile based on this sentiment.

If you want to max dps potential, and have no real loyalty to your sorc (for instance you absolutely love playing with lightning) then I would suggest a re-roll. In other words, it looks like DK will be on top for awhile.

Edit: I'd like to add however it is too soon to make this determination. There may very well be a viable non-pet magicka sorc build out there. But with only a few days of testing and a mere 70 CPs to test with it's highly unlikely we can even do an accurate comparison to our previous viability.

Flaminir · January 2015

Sadly I think @Cuyler is right.

And if you are considering a re-roll then now is the time. If you get a toon to V1 then it will be earning you champion points when you play on it as soon as update 6 hits.... if you wait, then you would be spending a chunk of time levelling 1-50 without earning CP.

I'm hedging my bets.... levelling a couple of other classes to vet before 1.6 hits & will then decide what to do once we know a bit more.

Samadhi · January 2015

Re-rolled to Sorcerer due to Nightblade's Cloak never getting fixed.

Cloak still isn't fixed in 1.6, but going to go back and give my Nightblade another go in light of the other new class changes.
If they are not sufficient, can always go back to my Sorcerer. There are some minor changes for us in 1.6 outside of pets that hold appeal to me.

If something else interests you, give it a go.

Darklord_Tiberius · January 2015

Ive played Templar since the beginning of this game. Other than NBs, but even they do not come close, Templar's for a long time had been one of the weakest classes compared to DKs or Sorcs. Re-rolling is an option sure, but I would theory craft and push my class to its limit. Read forums, try different builds magika/stam whatever; there is a build out there that makes your class on par with the others. The only reason I am as good as I am is because I stuck with my class and learned every ability and found what works.

The thing with the PTS and people posting things like, "OMGOOSE MY CLASS QQ ITS SOOOO BAD QQ OMG", is that most of the time they tested it with old builds and play styles instead of approaching it with an open mind. Theory crafting is not something that one can do in an hour or two, but its a process that can take a long while. Fundamental mechanics of how combat works has changed, many skills were changed and some new ones added. I think people should be more excited for this than gloomy, I know I am thrilled; but I love to theory craft lol. Once they tweak things and re-balance this new system, it will be just fine.

Mukuro · January 2015

You should just reroll... you aint cut out for sorc... maybe roll templar so you can be part of the coming sheep to spam one move seems more your style... or roll a bow for snipe... so you can be "good" like the rest...

Mettaricana · January 2015

i still have my sorc but dont use her anymore since they broke the class to the point i have nothing worth using aside from weapon skills

Mukuro · January 2015

Mettaricana wrote: »

i still have my sorc but dont use her anymore since they broke the class to the point i have nothing worth using aside from weapon skills

You should re roll also... maybe roll a dk stam/block build and stand still... maybe you will also be "good"

jambam817_ESO · January 2015

Mukuro wrote: »

You should re roll also... maybe roll a dk stam/block build and stand still... maybe you will also be "good"

way to be a jerk man. Video Games don't make you better than people, just saying. Have fun basement dweller!

Mukuro · January 2015

Basement dweller? I wish. .. Then my wife and kids wouldn't bother me so much after a 12hr shift. .. im just saying. .. if you gonna make a thread whining you gonna reroll an easier class. .. Then just do it

Aeratus · January 2015

Just roll a character for each class. Then, for each class, roll two characters, one with a stamina-based race, and another with a magicka-based race. Then, you will never be underpowered.

Cuyler · January 2015

Aeratus wrote: »

Just roll a character for each class. Then, for each class, roll two characters, one with a stamina-based race, and another with a magicka-based race. Then, you will never be underpowered.

Haha. Yup this exactly.

LionheartRichard · January 2015

Play whatever is fun. Min-maxers are ruining gaming.

Cuyler · January 2015

Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »

Ive played Templar since the beginning of this game. Other than NBs, but even they do not come close, Templar's for a long time had been one of the weakest classes compared to DKs or Sorcs. Re-rolling is an option sure, but I would theory craft and push my class to its limit. Read forums, try different builds magika/stam whatever; there is a build out there that makes your class on par with the others. The only reason I am as good as I am is because I stuck with my class and learned every ability and found what works.

The thing with the PTS and people posting things like, "OMGOOSE MY CLASS QQ ITS SOOOO BAD QQ OMG", is that most of the time they tested it with old builds and play styles instead of approaching it with an open mind. Theory crafting is not something that one can do in an hour or two, but its a process that can take a long while. Fundamental mechanics of how combat works has changed, many skills were changed and some new ones added. I think people should be more excited for this than gloomy, I know I am thrilled; but I love to theory craft lol. Once they tweak things and re-balance this new system, it will be just fine.

I agree. Take your time to look at the new mechanics on the pts if you can. With that said, one can see directly from the patch notes that some changes are huge nerfs. If you're a player whose favorite skill got hit with the nerf then well, doom and gloom is only expected and understandable. Although I'd suggest thinking that maybe there are other skills now that you will learn to like better. If you can't approach it that way, then maybe a re-roll is for you. You can always go back to sorc right?

Wreuntzylla · January 2015

LionheartRichard wrote: »

Play whatever is fun. Min-maxers are ruining gaming.

Why blame players for wanting to maximize the potential of their characters in a game that is poorly balanced?

It's sort of like blaming tax payers who claim every available deduction for the national debt.

Aeternus · January 2015

Will the sorcerer pet build be the only viable pve dps build in 1.6? Honestly I find it incredibly boring to do nothing but use crushing shock with pets slotted and I will not use it. If that is the case then I will not bother with my sorc and play my nightblade or templar until sorcs get a major class skills revamp.

Cuyler · January 2015

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

LionheartRichard wrote: »

Play whatever is fun. Min-maxers are ruining gaming.

Why blame players for wanting to maximize the potential of their characters in a game that is poorly balanced?

It's sort of like blaming tax payers who claim every available deduction for the national debt.

Don't feed the trolls,

TheBull · January 2015

I have not seen one sorcerer complain in Cyrodiil on PTS...

HyperToxic · January 2015

Vulix wrote: »

Seems like if I am going sorc I am just making the game more difficult and less enjoyable for myself. Any suggestions on whether I should stick with it or just re-roll? I haven't tried PTS so I don't know how bad they really are now. Just sad because I picked sorcerer to be a magicka-based fighter, not because I wanted to play 2-pet pokemon

my first character was a Sorc, my second a Templar, third a Night Blade, and forth a DK.

Roll a DK... feels more like a caster and does way more damage even on PTS.

HyperToxic · January 2015

HyperToxic wrote: »

Vulix wrote: »

Seems like if I am going sorc I am just making the game more difficult and less enjoyable for myself. Any suggestions on whether I should stick with it or just re-roll? I haven't tried PTS so I don't know how bad they really are now. Just sad because I picked sorcerer to be a magicka-based fighter, not because I wanted to play 2-pet pokemon

my first character was a Sorc, my second a Templar, third a Night Blade, and forth a DK.

Roll a DK... feels more like a caster and does way more damage even on PTS.

I'm giving up on my SORC - Magicka Sorc sucks on 1.6 because Critical Surge is now stamina based. Surge damage was nerfed and they made Entropy equivalent.

stewhead2ub17_ESO · January 2015

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

LionheartRichard wrote: »

Play whatever is fun. Min-maxers are ruining gaming.

Why blame players for wanting to maximize the potential of their characters in a game that is poorly balanced?

It's sort of like blaming tax payers who claim every available deduction for the national debt.

Sure. Be like every other drone out there. If that's your playstyle, enjoy. I choose a different kind of fun and just play my toons my way. To each his own.