MY 2 CENTS

SIN-X · January 2015

So I have played every class except temp on the pts with real toons/gear v14 not the premade and I just thought id throw this out there from my view.
1. Dks will still be No.1 by a still solid margin. They maintained most of there joy in regards to pve.

2.Sorcs ,wow what can I say....I'm really sorry. The crit surge nerf is unacceptable and coupled with a few other small things have rendered that a utility class. Your overall solo days are coming to an end unless you opt for crit surge take the hit for heals and sacrifice your dps by forsaking power surge, which to be honest you are better of getting the buff from the mage guild tree as it gives the sp plus a hot.

3.NB.. I cannot imagine why Veil of blades was nerfed and can only assume its to force more grouping and less solo play but its w/e. Really seems that is the main direction of this game now.

I am not sure what the internal tests are comprised of but from my own tests - stat changes etc and taking in account loss of stats from gear the sorc and nb have come in worse than 1.5 of course this is my play style so its based of magicka builds. In all my tests on the 3 the Dk still comes in a solid 500-600 dps above the other 2 and to be fair the Dk is not my main or even a toon I play more than 1 day every few weeks. There is no class hate here just calling it how I see it. Also the arg racial nerf prompts me to ask why? the racial passives from Dark elf are far more impactful for Dk than the arg passives for any class. Anyways I expect to see ALOT of changes before live as we are ofcourse testing patch so chins up and don't rage to much....That's what I'm here for

Sirlacker · January 2015

Whilst I agree to some of the things you stated, you've got to remember that this isn't the end of the world, none of this is set in stone yet. It's why it's released to the PTS for more than just the QA and Dev Team to test and see how it works out in real time, with hundreds if not thousands of players that take games way too seriously who number crunch more than the dev team, who put every skill to test more than the dev team and to ultimately decide if what the dev team thought was a good idea at the time, actually isn't and post feedback on why it isn't and how it could/should be resolved.

TheLaw · January 2015

Sirlacker wrote: »

Whilst I agree to some of the things you stated, you've got to remember that this isn't the end of the world, none of this is set in stone yet. It's why it's released to the PTS for more than just the QA and Dev Team to test and see how it works out in real time, with hundreds if not thousands of players that take games way too seriously who number crunch more than the dev team, who put every skill to test more than the dev team and to ultimately decide if what the dev team thought was a good idea at the time, actually isn't and post feedback on why it isn't and how it could/should be resolved.

I doubt there will be any major changes to Sorcs though, which is what the class needed in the first place. I was expecting much more from this patch.

Kevinmon · January 2015

Soul Tether was given a huge buff, it is basically the new Veil of Blades.

Vahrokh · January 2015

TheLaw wrote: »

I doubt there will be any major changes to Sorcs though, which is what the class needed in the first place. I was expecting much more from this patch.

I said we had to get heard loud, before 1.6 hit PTS. I got told "wait and see" and "pets give so much DPS they had to nerf them".
So, here we are.

rawne1980b16_ESO · January 2015

Vahrokh wrote: »

"pets give so much DPS they had to nerf them".

Who in the holiest of hells said that?

I chuckle every time I see a Sorc with a pet out, they are about as affective as spit balls.

Vahrokh · January 2015

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

"pets give so much DPS they had to nerf them".

Who in the holiest of hells said that?

I chuckle every time I see a Sorc with a pet out, they are about as affective as spit balls.

Look at the past days threads. All sorts of holy-light-infused people talking down others because ZoS talked about how much they buffed pets, that they even had to nerf those pets a bit to bring them back in line.

Those like me objecting that AI in MMOs only works for soloing / 4 men tops and that pets would still die to any random boss AoE got silenced by them.

And now here we are.

Valymer · January 2015

Sometimes it really sucks to be right, doesn't it?

Leeric · January 2015

Its like, the people who make these changes, hate sorcerers or something....

Shunravi · January 2015

SIN-X wrote: »

So I have played every class except temp on the pts with real toons/gear v14 not the premade and I just thought id throw this out there from my view.
1. Dks will still be No.1 by a still solid margin. They maintained most of there joy in regards to pve.

2.Sorcs ,wow what can I say....I'm really sorry. The crit surge nerf is unacceptable and coupled with a few other small things have rendered that a utility class. Your overall solo days are coming to an end unless you opt for crit surge take the hit for heals and sacrifice your dps by forsaking power surge, which to be honest you are better of getting the buff from the mage guild tree as it gives the sp plus a hot.

3.NB.. I cannot imagine why Veil of blades was nerfed and can only assume its to force more grouping and less solo play but its w/e. Really seems that is the main direction of this game now.

I am not sure what the internal tests are comprised of but from my own tests - stat changes etc and taking in account loss of stats from gear the sorc and nb have come in worse than 1.5 of course this is my play style so its based of magicka builds. In all my tests on the 3 the Dk still comes in a solid 500-600 dps above the other 2 and to be fair the Dk is not my main or even a toon I play more than 1 day every few weeks. There is no class hate here just calling it how I see it. Also the arg racial nerf prompts me to ask why? the racial passives from Dark elf are far more impactful for Dk than the arg passives for any class. Anyways I expect to see ALOT of changes before live as we are ofcourse testing patch so chins up and don't rage to much....That's what I'm here for

Soooo... more group oriented is the impression?

And so ZOS completly screws over sorc self heals, because that obviously means more group reliance..... Great idea ZOS, its not like anyone has been begging for a more reliable class self heal for pvp especially.

What, is this because you fear it would be to powerful with the impen change??? Seriously? Whatever your reason, it is a stupid one, and you should immediately reevaluate it. There are numerous other ways it could be changed or balanced... A cooldown on the heal?!? WTF!