Aett_Thorn wrote: »

So basically if you're a subscriber, any new alt never needs to do anything?

would skill have to level the skills and the alt itself

account wide should have been in form the start.

will already have benefits.. account wide achieves for dyes, mount stuff

I don't know much about this account wide skill points but some of that other stuff isn't so bad.

Already getting account wide skill points in the form of champion points. Why should I be able to level up destro staff to max skills when I create a level 1 character. Talk about PAY to WIN.

Why don't you learn to get things for yourself instead of thinking it is owed to you? your owed nothing.

Slowly encroaching on Pay to Win territory. I give it a thumbs down!

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

i have yet to hear a good argument for this stuff not to be account wide.

I have yet to read an argument (good or not) why it should. All I've seen so far is "Why should I have to put forth any effort for my alts?" That's not an argument; that's just begging for freebies.

i have already done all the quest and skyshard hunting on 1 toon already why must i do everything all over again to level a toon?

Because you're leveling a new character. That's the process. That's the game.

I think premium people should also get account wide premium access to lifeboats when ship hits iceberg.

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

i have yet to hear a good argument for this stuff not to be account wide.

None so deaf as those who have already made up their mind.

Mounts - maybe, especially with cash shop mounts and horse skills coming.

Achievements - No, you are not forced to do any of them but if you care enough to want them then you should care enough to earn them.

Backpack space -is a gold sink, suck it up.

Skill points - NO, in so many ways no.

I truly don't see what good it would be - do you just want to be able to insta-level alts of each kind to make cookie builds? Do you hate the choices you made on your first character? Are you hoping the cash shop will stock an 'I won' voucher?

If you spent more time playing and less time re-posting this thread you'd already have the skill points on any number of alts...

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Achievements - No, you are not forced to do any of them but if you care enough to want them then you should care enough to earn them.

Quoted for awesomeness.

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

i have yet to hear a good argument for this stuff not to be account wide.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Nah.

Skill points should be earned for each character, by their individual deeds and spent as they level their skills. We will be having the champion system for shared points, that would be more then enough.

going by this logic CP and dyes shouldnt have been account wide.

Backpack space needs to be for each character, if it was shared like the bank, we'd have no place to put our stuff...

so you telling me if all your alts have max bag space and max bank space you would run out of room?

Horse skills should be individual as well, I would not want them to be shared, since different characters of mine will need different mount stats, some fast to get around cyrodil, some strong to carry all the gathering sutff, etc.

so lets say you have 3 horses 1 with a max skill in speed, stam and bags and letting the horse be pure cosmetic. how is this a bad thing?

Achievements... hmmm... maaaybe... but seeing how the dyes unlocked by them already are per account, I really see no need to make all the achievements account wide as well, especially since every character for example yould have to do each of their explorations by themselves to get the XP, and the achievements help find which ones you have done, and which ones you still have to do.

again with the dyes are ok but other things are not? how is this a good argument for skill points not being account wide. i have already done all the quest and skyshard hunting on 1 toon already why must i do everything all over again to level a toon? why cant i just go in and grind/quest as fast as i can to get to max and not have to worry about if i have anough skill points to you know *** it i dont care hopefully they will see the *** and remove this thread

Because giving all those skills points trivializes the content in a few ways.

First, there is the fact that you no longer need to do all the quests, group challenges, or find the skyshards. You're probably thinking "Great!", however that is for all intents and purposes content. The game should not be trivializing it at this stage in it's life, that's something that MAYBE comes along years down the line. Also, if you don't go do those dungeons to complete those quests, or go do those group challenges, then that's less players looking to group to do them which means finding a group becomes much harder. When people can't find other players to group with, they tend to leave the game. In other words, its the first steps toward the game dying.

Second, giving all those skill points to a starting character will essentially make them much stronger than they would ordinarily be, making easy content even easier. You can already level through areas quickly and with ease, especially if it's not your first character. If you give them essentially unlimited skill points at the beginning it will magnify that effect, and again, less people in those lower zones leveling because they will be gone that much faster.

Third, tied in with above, giving all those beginning characters a ton of skills points sets up for the abuse of level 3 alt crafter masters with 3/3 hirelings in every crafting skill possible, so essentially eroding the market with tons of hireling materials.

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Would you like your pink unicorn pony mount to fart rainbows too?

That sounds appealing to me. I want it!

You know rainbows come after rain, right?

You better get some crowns for a raincoat as well.

you know what you guys are right account wide stuff sucks lets get rid of everything account wide dyes and CP included. you want it you got to work for it.