One thing I am not positive on

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

My sub runs out in a week. I cancelled it. But mostly because I am not sure if I will be getting 100 Crowns for Feb and a prated 1500 Crowns for the portion of March before the transition.

Simple question is if you sub right now do you get 1500 credits per month or 100 credits?

Knootewoot · January 2015

Your sub hasn't run out yet. So if you resub now, it will be as if you didn't unsub at all and you should get 1500 crowns

Stonesthrow · January 2015

What they said was as of launch of "unlimited" in march:

500 for having bought the game, at anytime

100 for any month you had subscribed and completed

1500 for any month or part of month that you had left and already paid for

1500 for any month subscribed going forward

ZOS_GaryA · January 2015

Hey there @wiz12268b14_ESO,

This question is best answered by the section in our FAQ:

2) As a current subscriber: If you are an active subscriber when The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited launches, you will receive 500 crowns for having a game account, plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber. In addition, you'll be automatically enrolled in ESO Plus for the remainder of your subscription period. You'll receive the full benefits of membership, and 1500 crowns for each 30-day period remaining on your subscription. For example, if you have 30 days or less remaining, you will receive 1500 crowns. If you have between 30 and 60 days remaining, you will receive 3000 crowns. 60 to 90 days, 4500 crowns.

Bolded the important parts for your particular situation, so here's an example which hopefully helps!

Your sub expires in a week, which would put you at a 1/30 renewal date. A 30 day subscription from there would go from about 1/30-3/1, for which you would receive 100 crowns, as it is a 30 day subscription period prior to Tamriel Unlimited's release.

If you renew for an additional month from there, your subscription would last through March. Since you would reach March 17th with 30 days or less on your sub, you would receive 1500 crowns on March 17th for that particular sub period (3/1-3/31).

Dazin93 · January 2015

Or, a reevaluation will occur and ZOS will determine that 1500 crowns would compromise what they are trying to accomplish and instead give everyone a flat 50 crown rate per month. Just another change in direction.......

AlnilamE · January 2015

@ZOS_GaryA‌ , the way I read that, your sub has to be active ON March 17, no?

grimjim398 · January 2015

The disclaimer should be remembered, of course; Zenimax reserves the right to reverse its course at any time, and you are to understand that they do so because they have received fresh inspiration from their fans which has guided them in a direction that might or might not be the same thing they said they would do yesterday or the day before.

I_killed_Vivec · January 2015

Dazin93 wrote: »

Or, a reevaluation will occur and ZOS will determine that 1500 crowns would compromise what they are trying to accomplish and instead give everyone a flat 50 crown rate per month. Just another change in direction.......

"There will be a cap, to keep player separation at a minimum."

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @wiz12268b14_ESO,

This question is best answered by the section in our FAQ:

2) As a current subscriber: If you are an active subscriber when The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited launches, you will receive 500 crowns for having a game account, plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber. In addition, you'll be automatically enrolled in ESO Plus for the remainder of your subscription period. You'll receive the full benefits of membership, and 1500 crowns for each 30-day period remaining on your subscription. For example, if you have 30 days or less remaining, you will receive 1500 crowns. If you have between 30 and 60 days remaining, you will receive 3000 crowns. 60 to 90 days, 4500 crowns.

Bolded the important parts for your particular situation, so here's an example which hopefully helps!

Your sub expires in a week, which would put you at a 1/30 renewal date. A 30 day subscription from there would go from about 1/30-3/1, for which you would receive 100 crowns, as it is a 30 day subscription period prior to Tamriel Unlimited's release.

If you renew for an additional month from there, your subscription would last through March. Since you would reach March 17th with 30 days or less on your sub, you would receive 1500 crowns on March 17th for that particular sub period (3/1-3/31).

Yeah thats how I read it, but wasn't sure if it would go forward from the announcement or just go forward.

Basically the 'value' of February for people in my position is nearly nil. Why sub and get 100 credits when you can wait 28 days and receive 1500? Other than access to the game.

For people who 'need' it for their 12 month consecutive streak and the special bonus sure but sporadic or recent buyers of the game it has almost no value at this point.

The timing of the announcement was a little off basically.

ZOS_GaryA · January 2015

Hey there @AlnilamE,

Not really clear on the question, would you mind elaborating just a bit?

If it helps, the above FAQ covers if you are subbed through the release of Tamriel Unlimited.

If you do not have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you will absolutely be able to log in and play, and you will be granted 500 Crowns for the purchase of the game and 100 crowns for each 30 day period you were subscribed in the past. If you decide to purchase an ESO plus membership after the release of Tamriel Unlimited, you will be granted your allotment of Crowns when your membership is applied to your account.

If you do have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you'll receive all of the above, plus 1500 Crowns/30 day period remaining on your account. In the above example, our example subscriber would reach the release date with 17 days remaining on their account (assuming they are on a 30 day recurring subscription). So on March 17th they would receive:

500 Crowns for the purchase of the game
100 Crowns for each 30 day period they were subscribed in the past
1500 crowns for having 30 days or less remaining on their subscription time.

Darlgon · January 2015

@ZoS_GaryA
Here is the basic questions for me. You get 100 crowns a month and your sub allows you to have access to the new DLCs.

1. Should you cancel your sub, do you loose access to all the DLCs you "paid" for with the sub up to that point? If so, it leads to:
2. Will the 100 crown allotment allow you to only purchase the expansions when they come out? (new expansion every 6 months, avail for 600 crowns) Basically that would mean either, a.) the crowns have no benefit to me because I have to save them for expansions or b.) I will have to pay cash for the expansions PLUS the sub fee to buy anything other than expansion.

In case you are curious, yes, I have had an MMO tell me it was all good to use those "loyalty" tokens as I needed, only to, three years later, start charging exactly scenario 2b. When my sub dropped thru a billing error on their side, I lost access to everything but the basic game. If I wanted any of the "perks" I would have to also pay cash for the expansions AND a sub fee.

ZOS_GaryA · January 2015

Hey there @Darlgon,

Most of these questions are answered in the FAQ, which is located here.

DLC will be available for purchase in the Crown Store on an a la carte basis. DLC purchased on an a la carte basis will be available to you for as long as The Elder Scrolls Online is available. Members of ESO Plus will receive complimentary access to all DLC game packs for the duration of their membership.

You will lose access to the DLC areas and quests should your membership lapse (unless you purchase the DLC separately in the Crown Store), but you will keep all items and rewards earned through the content.
We have not yet announced pricing for the DLC, but when that information is available we'll be sure to let everyone know.

EDIT: Formatting/additional info (read: fewer stars [*], more quotes)

Kraven · January 2015

Being asked all over. Won't be answered.

How much will DLC cost? If it is released one per every 3 months, is it going to sell for the $45 that Unlimited members have paid in subs? Not sure how many console players would pay 45 every 3 months considering they apparently had such an issue with sub model in the first place. So IF dlc is available every 3 months for the expected $10-20 what is the benefit of paying the additional $25-$35? A few crowns?

Wouldn't every player be better off buying the number of crowns that they wanted and the DLC, considering subscribers are only 'renting' the DLC no matter how long they've been subbed? (the content itself becomes locked if they drop their sub a year from now for a month or two, during those two months they don't have access to a $20 DLC even though they've paid a year's worth of subscription?)

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

One thing I am positive on, the crowns you get from subbing WILL NOT be enough to buy all DLCs. That is just common sense. I imagine people learned from Turbine and their F2P model they put in due to trying to (over) appease lifetime account holders. Paying people to play(in Turbines case they pay you for your lifetime membership you bought) your game just doesnt work.

The thing is that will also create a dilemma. They cant overcharge for them. IMO max price would be 29.99 before people balked. Because 29.99 is borderline expansion (smallish) price, for PC players anyway. 19.99 or 24.99 is more likely. So if they cant over charge then they have to have timely releases to keep the amount needed to buy the DLCs above what subscribers get 'for free'. Or they just wont sell DLCS for crowns. Which is the 'safest' choice but will also make people hedge on maybe subbing because most people might not want 'fluff'.

So the compromise will more than likely be a modest cash price but an over price for crowns. So if a DLC is 19.99 which most would equate to 4000 crowns maybe, they might try and charge 5 or 6 thousand crowns for it. But that still would mean that a person subbing for a 12 month period would be able to afford 3 (at 6K crowns) a year for free.

Going to be interesting, and like I said from the announcement math geeks and guys who are 'frugal' will be all over it.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · January 2015

Kraven wrote: »

Being asked all over. Won't be answered.

They haven't answered the question yet, because they don't know the answer. As ZOS_GaryA pointed out "2. We have not yet announced pricing for the DLC, but when that information is available we'll be sure to let everyone know." While it's possable someone higher in marketing has a price point, I'm sure ZOS is still trying to figure out how much they can charge for the DLCs.

Kraven · January 2015

The fact remains if you subscribe for a year you're getting xp and gold boost, big whoop there, and access to all available DLC as it is released as well as a crown amount. SO if you have to pay for that DLC with that crown amount then you're getting nothing but the small boost which you will be able to buy from the cash shop any way.

If you don't spend crowns then if at any point your account lapses for any reason you now lose access to that DLC .

So simple question what is the benefit of subscribing for an extended period of time versus buying the DLC and buying just enough crowns if you want an item off the shop?

They won't answer the pricing question because they've already lost a lot of subs they want to wait until release on console and box sales can boost numbers so that when subscribers then see there is no real benefit they've already gotten a few extra months of subs from them. Then shortly after that they'll lower the Unlimited membership price to $10 per month or so.

If you really, seriously think they have no clue how much they are going to charge for the DLC content that they already have available...I've got this great piece of property for sale! You think what? They won't know until console releases then they'll just think of a magic number?

Razzak · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @AlnilamE,

Not really clear on the question, would you mind elaborating just a bit?

If it helps, the above FAQ covers if you are subbed through the release of Tamriel Unlimited.

If you do not have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you will absolutely be able to log in and play, and you will be granted 500 Crowns for the purchase of the game and 100 crowns for each 30 day period you were subscribed in the past. If you decide to purchase an ESO plus membership after the release of Tamriel Unlimited, you will be granted your allotment of Crowns when your membership is applied to your account.

If you do have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you'll receive all of the above, plus 1500 Crowns/30 day period remaining on your account. In the above example, our example subscriber would reach the release date with 17 days remaining on their account (assuming they are on a 30 day recurring subscription). So on March 17th they would receive:

500 Crowns for the purchase of the game
100 Crowns for each 30 day period they were subscribed in the past
1500 crowns for having 30 days or less remaining on their subscription time.

What is you re-sub after TU goes live? How long do you have to stay subbed in order to get your first 1500?

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

Razzak wrote: »

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @AlnilamE,

Not really clear on the question, would you mind elaborating just a bit?

If it helps, the above FAQ covers if you are subbed through the release of Tamriel Unlimited.

If you do not have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you will absolutely be able to log in and play, and you will be granted 500 Crowns for the purchase of the game and 100 crowns for each 30 day period you were subscribed in the past. If you decide to purchase an ESO plus membership after the release of Tamriel Unlimited, you will be granted your allotment of Crowns when your membership is applied to your account.

If you do have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you'll receive all of the above, plus 1500 Crowns/30 day period remaining on your account. In the above example, our example subscriber would reach the release date with 17 days remaining on their account (assuming they are on a 30 day recurring subscription). So on March 17th they would receive:

500 Crowns for the purchase of the game
100 Crowns for each 30 day period they were subscribed in the past
1500 crowns for having 30 days or less remaining on their subscription time.

What is you re-sub after TU goes live? How long do you have to stay subbed in order to get your first 1500?

If you sub March 1 you will get 1500 credits (I do know that much). But he confirmed what I thought ANY sub AFTER March 1 will get you 1500 credits ANY sub before that will get you 100.

I am not sure if your free month counts, I doubt it does since they are giving you 500 for purchase. Because if you did it would be 600 for anyone who bought the game because they would obviously get a 1 month credit if they counted that free month sub.

Dazin93 · January 2015

I just find it amusing people continue to ask questions when it's clear the mods here are either blatant liars or are only fed specific "information" and don't really have a clue about anything going on. I suspect it's the latter, but who really knows. Whatever is said here is obviously "subject to change" and judging by their track record it most likely will.

Darlgon · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @Darlgon,

Most of these questions are answered in the FAQ, which is located here.

DLC will be available for purchase in the Crown Store on an a la carte basis. DLC purchased on an a la carte basis will be available to you for as long as The Elder Scrolls Online is available. Members of ESO Plus will receive complimentary access to all DLC game packs for the duration of their membership.

You will lose access to the DLC areas and quests should your membership lapse (unless you purchase the DLC separately in the Crown Store), but you will keep all items and rewards earned through the content.

We have not yet announced pricing for the DLC, but when that information is available we'll be sure to let everyone know.

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Thanks for the link. Saw mention of the FAQ in other places and forgot to look for it. Be nice if it was included in the initial announcement page, instead of just a link to the forum discussion. Or, maybe I just missed that. (Yeah, I missed it. see it now.)

It appears you get 1500 crowns a month instead of 100 once the program starts to roll?

However:

FaQ wrote: »

ESO Plus offers members exclusive in-game bonuses, a reoccurring allotment of crowns and access to all downloadable content (DLC) game packs for the duration of membership:

Main concern number one.. I am paying for those DLCs with my monthly fee, since non-subscribers get to play the game after initial purchase or just by purchasing the expansions, except, as a loyal sub, I am saying, "I will pay you for x days playtime" while the non-subs are not. I should retain access to those DLCs I paid you for as they came out. Or, get a Crown Shop discount with an active sub, with me knowing I need to buy the DLCs anyway from the shop as they come out to get access to them.

Also, in a slightly reformated version:

FaQ wrote: »

Crowns
1500 crowns at the start of each 30-day membership period per month (1500/30 day, 4500/90 day, 9000/180 day

DLC access
Access to all downloadable content for the duration of membership
(same for all three)

Exclusive character progression bonuses for the duration of membership
(Listed below?)

Benefits
10% bonus to experience point gain
10% bonus to crafting research
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain
10% bonus to gold acquisition
(same for all three)

Main concern number two and three. Frankly, I am on the 180 day sub due to having to pay less per month. Will that continue be the only benefit? I see no reward for paying six months at a time otherwise.

For those who have max VR14s, the XP gain will... affect getting Champ Points?
For those of us with maxed out crafting, the inspiration bonus will only come into play if we decide to craft up an alt.
For those who have completed researching all traits, that benefit only comes into play with .. new traits..coming?

Everyone needs more gold tho, but how does that affect the group split, if you have 3 non-subs and a sub?

a.) Non-sub pops the corpse and the group divides up 100 gold (all get 25)
b.) Sub loots first and group divides up 110 gold ( all get 28 gold)

or
c.) Anyone loots first and non-subs get 25 gold, with the sub getting 28. With that as the most likely option, the filter will work when we test it on PTS?

Lordstarfox · January 2015

wiz12268b14_ESO wrote: »

I am not sure if your free month counts, I doubt it does since they are giving you 500 for purchase. Because if you did it would be 600 for anyone who bought the game because they would obviously get a 1 month credit if they counted that free month sub.

FAQ states that " plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber." if your first month is still going you haven't been a sub for month yet,so i would guess no.

My question;
Game contains "30 days of game time" and it appears as "Game Time" in the account page. Is this any different than the subscription you buy after the initial purchase?

Sooo....
If you buy the game before B2P (but after feb 17th) will you get ; Game + 2000 crown points (account + game time left) and +10% buff for remaining game time after the transition?

I recommended my friends to buy the game between Feb 17th and March 17th,hope i was right to do so.

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

Dazin93 wrote: »

I just find it amusing people continue to ask questions when it's clear the mods here are either blatant liars or are only fed specific "information" and don't really have a clue about anything going on. I suspect it's the latter, but who really knows. Whatever is said here is obviously "subject to change" and judging by their track record it most likely will.

Nah my original question was simple. Do you get 1500 for Feb or 100? That was because some people do go month to month and a lot of new people just bought the game in December (on the cheap) and they will more than likely NOT have an active sub in Feb. So I was trying to determine if subbing for Feb or taking a 28 (29 if its a leap year not sure) and then resubbing in March would be more 'valuable'.

As a caveat and not to derail my own thread I assume they will also drop a DLC on March 17 because if they dont then there is (at that point) no real benefit to subbing other than the 10% perks which most veterans probably wont need anyway (akin to RIFT perks)

Unless of course they announce a 'loyalty' program which accumulates monthly subs and at benchmarks and milestones give subscribers nice little perks and benefits and titles and fluff.

AlnilamE · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @AlnilamE,

Not really clear on the question, would you mind elaborating just a bit?

If it helps, the above FAQ covers if you are subbed through the release of Tamriel Unlimited.

If you do not have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you will absolutely be able to log in and play, and you will be granted 500 Crowns for the purchase of the game and 100 crowns for each 30 day period you were subscribed in the past. If you decide to purchase an ESO plus membership after the release of Tamriel Unlimited, you will be granted your allotment of Crowns when your membership is applied to your account.

If you do have an active subscription when Tamriel Unlimited goes live, you'll receive all of the above, plus 1500 Crowns/30 day period remaining on your account. In the above example, our example subscriber would reach the release date with 17 days remaining on their account (assuming they are on a 30 day recurring subscription). So on March 17th they would receive:

500 Crowns for the purchase of the game
100 Crowns for each 30 day period they were subscribed in the past
1500 crowns for having 30 days or less remaining on their subscription time.

Thanks. I had read it as needing to have an active sub on March 17 in order to get the 100 crowns per 30 days.

I doesn't matter in my case, as I will, but I didn't want others misinterpreting it, if that was the case.

Thanks for clarifying!

Vis · January 2015

Yay! They will give me a little bit of in-game credit so I can buy back some of the content I paid for earlier. Huzzah! I am so stoked! I am glad I do not have any self-respect!

Govalon · January 2015

Vis wrote: »

Yay! They will give me a little bit of in-game credit so I can buy back some of the content I paid for earlier. Huzzah! I am so stoked! I am glad I do not have any self-respect!

We are total suckers but what can we do? This is the only Elder Scrolls online on the market. We have no choice but sell our dignity and soul.

Robocles · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @wiz12268b14_ESO,

This question is best answered by the section in our FAQ:

2) As a current subscriber: If you are an active subscriber when The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited launches, you will receive 500 crowns for having a game account, plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber. In addition, you'll be automatically enrolled in ESO Plus for the remainder of your subscription period. You'll receive the full benefits of membership, and 1500 crowns for each 30-day period remaining on your subscription. For example, if you have 30 days or less remaining, you will receive 1500 crowns. If you have between 30 and 60 days remaining, you will receive 3000 crowns. 60 to 90 days, 4500 crowns.

Bolded the important parts for your particular situation, so here's an example which hopefully helps!

Your sub expires in a week, which would put you at a 1/30 renewal date. A 30 day subscription from there would go from about 1/30-3/1, for which you would receive 100 crowns, as it is a 30 day subscription period prior to Tamriel Unlimited's release.

If you renew for an additional month from there, your subscription would last through March. Since you would reach March 17th with 30 days or less on your sub, you would receive 1500 crowns on March 17th for that particular sub period (3/1-3/31).

Wouldn't that sub be from 3/2 to 3/31?

TequilaFire · January 2015

If what ZOS is trying to do is to format the price structure of DLC to the console market, I can say I usually pay between $5.00 to $20.00 for DLC.
Console users will not go for prices much beyond that, especially since they have
to pay for a base game download or disk.

As I recall Skyrim expansions were in the $20.00 range.

It will also boil down to the crown to dollar/euro conversion rate they set.

ZOS_GaryA · January 2015

What is you re-sub after TU goes live? How long do you have to stay subbed in order to get your first 1500?

If you resub after TU goes live, you will receive your allotment of crowns immediately based on your subscription duration. If you were to begin a 30 day subscription on March 17th, you would receive 1500 Crowns that day, and 1500 Crowns each time your sub renews.

If you sub March 1 you will get 1500 credits (I do know that much). But he confirmed what I thought ANY sub AFTER March 1 will get you 1500 credits ANY sub before that will get you 100.

Close-ish. Maybe this will help. Completed 30 day periods prior to the launch of TU on March 17th will grant you 100 crowns. Remaining subscription time will receive crowns based on how much time is remaining on the account.

Examples:

A subscription period ends on or before March 16th would be granted 100 crowns, as no remaining time rolls into ESO Plus.

A subscription period that begins ON March 16th (the day before) will receive full crowns (because you would have X days remaining when TU launched, and you would be granted crowns based on remaining time. For instance, a 30 day subscription would have 29 days remaining in this case, and would be eligible to receive 1500 crowns.)

A current subscription that exceeds the release receive crowns based on how much time is left. For instance, if you had a 180 day ESO subscription, and have 88 days of sub time remaining on March 17th, you would receive 4500 crowns for the 88 remaining days, and 300 crowns for the completed 30 day periods prior to that (just for that sub, if you had purchased more time prior to the 180 day sub, these would obviously be included at the 100 Crown/month as well)

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

What is you re-sub after TU goes live? How long do you have to stay subbed in order to get your first 1500?

If you resub after TU goes live, you will receive your allotment of crowns immediately based on your subscription duration. If you were to begin a 30 day subscription on March 17th, you would receive 1500 Crowns that day, and 1500 Crowns each time your sub renews.

If you sub March 1 you will get 1500 credits (I do know that much). But he confirmed what I thought ANY sub AFTER March 1 will get you 1500 credits ANY sub before that will get you 100.

Close-ish. Maybe this will help. Completed 30 day periods prior to the launch of TU on March 17th will grant you 100 crowns. Remaining subscription time will receive crowns based on how much time is remaining on the account.

Examples:

A subscription period ends on or before March 16th would be granted 100 crowns, as no remaining time rolls into ESO Plus.

A subscription period that begins ON March 16th (the day before) will receive full crowns (because you would have X days remaining when TU launched, and you would be granted crowns based on remaining time. For instance, a 30 day subscription would have 29 days remaining in this case, and would be eligible to receive 1500 crowns.)

A current subscription that exceeds the release receive crowns based on how much time is left. For instance, if you had a 180 day ESO subscription, and have 88 days of sub time remaining on March 17th, you would receive 4500 crowns for the 88 remaining days, and 300 crowns for the completed 30 day periods prior to that (just for that sub, if you had purchased more time prior to the 180 day sub, these would obviously be included at the 100 Crown/month as well)

Now that it has been explained out a little more I think I got it.

The EARLIEST someone who doesnt have a current sub or one that is expiring soon can subscribe and receive the 1500 credits for a 30 day sub is Feb 15th(since it isnt a leap year).

In my case My sub runs out on Jan 30. Therefore to get a 'maximum" benefit would be to unsub now and then resub on Feb 15th. Sure I cant play for 15 days but since it is right on half a sub period the 'benefits' before the transition have now been diluted.

So I was half wrong Feb isnt worth 'nil' as a subscriber but half of it is. Or anything before the 15th for anyone who wont have a sub going at that time. The really unlucky ones are the people who might happen to have a sub expiring on the 14th.

osaceeub17_ESO · January 2015

I have "recurring" on my account page, does this mean as long as my account is recurring that my account won't get dropped? I want to make sure my account doesn't get terminated just because of and error in understanding. Let me know what is needed to assure that my payment plans is seamless. Thank you.