Imperial City with no sub lock out

Joejudas · January 2015

For the Imperial City...since its in Cyrodil which everyone can access...it seems that locking people out of it who don't have a sub but making it an active part of free PvP could be a real problem. When we go to raid it if half the guild can't get in due to pay wall issues....I'm sure feathers will be ruffled.

Murmeltier · January 2015

Before you need an Abo to play full Teso and full PvP. Now you need ESO+ to play full Teso and full PvP. Before you pay to get all, now you have to pay too, to get all.

Additonal you can purchase the DLC from the Imperial City or others with Crowns, i mean. So you dont need ESO+, you could only download the Things you want.

You can decide, you save Money or you spend some and get more for it (+10% Bonus for an Example and Crowns). These are the Options you can work with.

This is defeniteley better then before. Teso isnt F2P and you only have Access to the Basics. The Imperial City isnt a Basic-Thing, it isnt in the Game yet, and how it works we dont know yet.

At the Moment you have to pay for it. Pay and you are dont locked out, Problem solved.

Joejudas · January 2015

Murmeltier wrote: »

Before you need an Abo to play full Teso and full PvP. Now you need ESO+ to play full Teso and full PvP.

Additonal you can purchase the DLC from the Imperial City with Crowns, i mean. So you dont need ESO+, you could only download the Things you want.

You can decide, you save Money or you spend some and get more for it (+10% Bonus for an Example and Crowns). These are the Options you can work with.

This is defeniteley better then before. Teso isnt F2P and you only have Access to the Basics. The Imperial City isnt a Basic-Thing, and how it works we dont know yet.

At the Moment you have to pay for it.

I support the B2P system they are going to use and I agree it doesn't change anything for the subscribing members. Are you saying they confirmed to access PvP you will need a sub ??? I hadn't seen that if that's what your saying. I was just pointing out that if only part of the PvP zone is accessible to one of the most social parts of the game it might be kind of crappy

Enodoc · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

For the Imperial City...since its in Cyrodil which everyone can access...it seems that locking people out of it who don't have a sub but making it an active part of free PvP could be a real problem. When we go to raid it if half the guild can't get in due to pay wall issues....I'm sure feathers will be ruffled.

There has been no conformation yet that Imperial City will be paid DLC. We need to present a convincing case for it to not be, before they decide to announce that it will be.

Joejudas · January 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Joejudas wrote: »

For the Imperial City...since its in Cyrodil which everyone can access...it seems that locking people out of it who don't have a sub but making it an active part of free PvP could be a real problem. When we go to raid it if half the guild can't get in due to pay wall issues....I'm sure feathers will be ruffled.

There has been no conformation yet that Imperial City will be paid DLC. We need to present a convincing case for it to not be, before they decide to announce that it will be.

I agree. I could see them locking out the dungeon in the city as a pay wall. But the ability to capture it should be free.

Valencer · January 2015

If the Imperial City is going to be an integral part of Cyrodiil, locking part of the community out of it is going to create issues.

Joejudas · January 2015

Valencer wrote: »

If the Imperial City is going to be an integral part of Cyrodiil, locking part of the community out of it is going to create issues.

From what I have seen explained about it...it's going to be similar to capturing a keep now....but it's going to include access to a dungeon and a special crafting area.

Murmeltier · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

Murmeltier wrote: »

Before you need an Abo to play full Teso and full PvP. Now you need ESO+ to play full Teso and full PvP.

Additonal you can purchase the DLC from the Imperial City with Crowns, i mean. So you dont need ESO+, you could only download the Things you want.

You can decide, you save Money or you spend some and get more for it (+10% Bonus for an Example and Crowns). These are the Options you can work with.

This is defeniteley better then before. Teso isnt F2P and you only have Access to the Basics. The Imperial City isnt a Basic-Thing, and how it works we dont know yet.

At the Moment you have to pay for it.

I support the B2P system they are going to use and I agree it doesn't change anything for the subscribing members. Are you saying they confirmed to access PvP you will need a sub ??? I hadn't seen that if that's what your saying. I was just pointing out that if only part of the PvP zone is accessible to one of the most social parts of the game it might be kind of crappy

I dont say anything like that you have to pay for PvP. I said, you have to pay for the DLC Imperial City, or you have to be a Member ESO+ to use it.

You can play PvP, but you cant use the Imperial City without a DLC or ESO+ (not 100% sure). You can do your "social" Part in the Game.

For sure, it isnt 100% save that the Imperial City is a DLC and if, how much from the City will be free for all. But Zenimax says, every Update after 1.6 is a DLC and we have to pay for it, if i have understand this right.

How important the Imperial City for the PvP is, we dont know it yet. But you can PvP, no more Zenimax has offered.

Joejudas · January 2015

Murmeltier wrote: »

Joejudas wrote: »

Murmeltier wrote: »

Before you need an Abo to play full Teso and full PvP. Now you need ESO+ to play full Teso and full PvP.

Additonal you can purchase the DLC from the Imperial City with Crowns, i mean. So you dont need ESO+, you could only download the Things you want.

You can decide, you save Money or you spend some and get more for it (+10% Bonus for an Example and Crowns). These are the Options you can work with.

This is defeniteley better then before. Teso isnt F2P and you only have Access to the Basics. The Imperial City isnt a Basic-Thing, and how it works we dont know yet.

At the Moment you have to pay for it.

I support the B2P system they are going to use and I agree it doesn't change anything for the subscribing members. Are you saying they confirmed to access PvP you will need a sub ??? I hadn't seen that if that's what your saying. I was just pointing out that if only part of the PvP zone is accessible to one of the most social parts of the game it might be kind of crappy

I dont say anything like that you have to pay for PvP. I said, you have to pay for the DLC Imperial City, or you have to be a Member ESO+ to use it.

You can Play PvP, but you cant use the Imperial City. You can do your "social" Part in the Game.

Ok we are on the same page then. I kind of support it but I don't. Locking folks out of a keep that is required to control the map would be dumb imo. Well shall see though.

Jennifur_Vultee · January 2015

"PVP Pass, get ya PVP Pass! Only $7 for seven days, get 'em while they hot to gain access to PVP in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City for seven whole days!"

Bloodystab · January 2015

I think 1st DLC might be Free. IMHO should be!

Joejudas · January 2015

To me it's no different than locking unsubbed players out of Arrius.

Enodoc · January 2015

Murmeltier wrote: »

But Zenimax says, every Update after 1.6 is a DLC and we have to pay for it, if i have understand this right.

No, they never said that. They said: "Tamriel Unlimited will be supported with special, optional downloadable content available for purchase and an in-game Crown Store for convenience and customization items. Regular updates and new gameplay will be offered to all players to enjoy free of additional charges." Imperial City could (and should) be "new gameplay [...] free of additional charges."

Joejudas · January 2015

I think it should be free as well. I think if it isn't it's just going to cause problems. It's different than PvE stuff. PvP people haven't seen any new additional content....like ever.

kevlarto_ESO · January 2015

Speculation, but maybe for those that don't take part in the ESO pass will be able to buy a pass for Imperial city, but at this point we don't have a clue.

Joejudas · January 2015

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Speculation, but maybe for those that don't take part in the ESO pass will be able to buy a pass for Imperial city, but at this point we don't have a clue.

Yep it's all speculation. But it's fun

starkerealm · January 2015

Bloodystab wrote: »

I think 1st DLC might be Free. IMHO should be!

But, the first DLC like release has already been specifically identified as being free.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2015

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

"PVP Pass, get ya PVP Pass! Only $7 for seven days, get 'em while they hot to gain access to PVP in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City for seven whole days!"

@Jennifur_Vultee , that comes complete with a walk-around map of the stars, right?

c0rp · January 2015

As far as I am concerned, I HAVE already paid for Imperial City with my sub all this time, considering I was shown footage of it, and promised it would be here like 6 months ago.