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Sypher's Initial Response to the B2P/Console Announcement.
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Sypherioth✭✭✭BalerionBlackDread wrote: »Name one MMO with a successful and happy community of B2P or F2P players . Just name one . I disagree with everything You said on experience .
I don't know about now, but when I left swtor it was fine as fiddlesticks. It was completely F2P with a cash shop and when the transition happened the doomsayers were out in force, but after that the community adapted and overcame and went back to normal. (at least as far as I could tell)
So why aren't you there ? I was there since beta and nothing you said is even close to the reality that is swtor .
but SWTOR battlegrounds is awsome pvp imo.
Edited by Sypherioth on January 22, 2015 2:59AM2 -
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✭Bravo sir. At first I was really pissed about it. Then I actually thought it out and it can honestly work IF they don't give any pay to win options. That can't happen. Maybe now all the people who were talking crap since announcement/beta, and currently, will finally see how good the game is. I am a huge fan of this game, though I don't agree with a lot of choices with some patches, and want it to do amazingly well. If B2P has to happen in order for people to see the game and experience it first hand. Then so be it.
Yet should it ever go pay to win.....then we have issues lol0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sypherioth wrote: »BalerionBlackDread wrote: »Name one MMO with a successful and happy community of B2P or F2P players . Just name one . I disagree with everything You said on experience .
I don't know about now, but when I left swtor it was fine as fiddlesticks. It was completely F2P with a cash shop and when the transition happened the doomsayers were out in force, but after that the community adapted and overcame and went back to normal. (at least as far as I could tell)
So why aren't you there ? I was there since beta and nothing you said is even close to the reality that is swtor .
but SWTOR battlegrounds is awsome pvp imo.
For a little while they can be fun but good lord does it get old. So to answer the guy whos name sounds suspiciously like a wookie; the reason I personally am here rather than there is because it is fun. My issues with SWTOR has never been much on the cartel shop. I think anyone that is claiming that is the reason for SWTORs shortcomings is just digging to support their own narrative.1 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyDolNzNZU&list=UU_q5WZtFp36adwqhKpZzxwQ
It's not all doom and gloom fellas.
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I'm not being blind to the negatives that may/will come with this change. The fact of the matter is, this change is happening, whether we like it or not. SO we might as well make the best out of it and try our best to give ZOS constructive feedback (avoid P2W) as opposed to just whining/threatening to quit the game.
Easy to grind soul gems and potions... for now. After the p2w transition, you very likely will find them in scarcity. Every shop starts that way.
"They are easy to get right now ..."
And then they make those items truly grindy to access.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭Also, look to Lotro for an example of "potions" in a shop.
They did not say the potions would be of equal power to craftable ones. Another trick Lotro used, was to have shop potions of equal power but that shared different cd's than the crafted ones (thus doubling your potion use).
Too many holes to fall in. Too many slippery slides to use ... and ESO has shown us no reason to trust them.Edited by Vis on January 22, 2015 3:43AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭✭✭Also, look to Lotro for an example of "potions" in a shop.
They did not say the potions would be of equal power to craftable ones. Another trick Lotro used, was to have shop potions of equal power but that shared different cd's than the crafted ones (thus doubling your potion use).
Too many holes to fall in. Too many slippery slides to use ... and ESO has shown us no reason to trust them.
True, but we have to try our best to prevent this from happening by being very vocal as a community. And if it does indeed happen, we move on.DC Dragonknight 'Sypher - AD Nightblade Sypher Ali - AD Sorcerer Sypher Sensei - EP Sorcerer Sypharian - DC Templar Ali Sypher
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