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Will you stay subscribed or leave altogether after the B2P transition?
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Just in case you didn't know, there's still a sub fee there and it grants you quite alot of crowns each month as well as some bonuses, and free updates too.
Edited by Neizir on January 22, 2015 12:34AM Neizir Stormstrider
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Will you stay subscribed or leave altogether after the B2P transition? 288 votes
Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.
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Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!
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Staying, but not subbing to ESO Plus.
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BlueIllyrian✭✭✭What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?8
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Neizir✭✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.BlueIllyrian wrote: »What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?
Because more investment = more content. That's the way it's been for every product out there.Neizir Stormstrider
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rylixav✭✭✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!Yeah, I'm sure they'll be working night and day creating engaging and innovative content from here on out. They definitely won't have the entire dev team working exclusively on mounts, pets, and costumes that they can create in a few hours and sell for $20 each. Why would they ever do that? Who likes making a quick buck for minimal investment?Edited by rylixav on January 22, 2015 1:32AM10
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Throren✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.staying. A true fan of the game wouldn't quit without actually experiencing the new systems in person first15 -
grimjim398✭✭✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!Another poll where the bias of the pollster is very clear. Makes no difference. I won't play the game under this model, no matter how reasonable people claim this change is. I came to this game because I like the subscription model; if I want B2P or F2P there are a lot of other options.5 -
Neizir✭✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.grimjim398 wrote: »Another poll where the bias of the pollster is very clear. Makes no difference. I won't play the game under this model, no matter how reasonable people claim this change is. I came to this game because I like the subscription model; if I want B2P or F2P there are a lot of other options.
If you like the subscription option then why not subscribe to ESO Plus? It's essentially the same game.Neizir Stormstrider
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BlueIllyrian✭✭✭BlueIllyrian wrote: »What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?
Because more investment = more content. That's the way it's been for every product out there.
No, that's your assumption. The goal is to increase revenues and minimize expenses, including reinvestment. By your logic every f2p game should be a huge quality project.
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✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.I will probably sub for 1 month to see what a mess they make of it.
The second the cash shop starts turning into pay2win I'm out.
Neverwinter is like that and it isn't that fun.1 -
Ohioastro✭✭✭✭If you want an actual discussion you don't start with absurdly slanted poll options.
I won't support games with cash shops. There are many, many examples of bad outcomes with them. Maybe this will be the first one where that isn't true, but it isn't irrational at all to doubt it.
So, I'll vote in the only way that I can: I canceled my sub, and I won't look back. Let them prove that they'll be different, rather than my assuming that they'll be a special snowflake.3 -
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✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.I am gonna stay and see what it looks like in 3 mos time, one of my chief questions will be, When will the New DLC's come out now ? Will they still be every 6 weeks or now quarterly, etcSigned, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.1 -
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✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!BS poll. Slanders the only one "leaving" option from the get go.1 -
Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.I played DDO for years before ESO. That one went from F2P to B2P and I did a sub there as well. After the initial cries of out rage on the forums I am waiting for the pay to win threads to start up... oops, nvm there is one in the Alliance section already."Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." - Terry Pratchett0
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sean.plackerb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.I'm going to stay sub'd and at least give it a chance until the end of March. I think next week when 1.6 hits PTS and we get to see the crown store will be very interesting. So far it seems alright to me. I'm not seeing anything so far that sounds like a big deal. Cosmetic items and some potions that are less effective than player made ones. As for DLC I'm glad they left the sub optional instead of killing it so you can just get DLC as it comes out if you are sub'd. Only time will tell though and its gonna be a interesting next 3 months for ESO.@sean8102 - Carlore - Daggerfall Covenant1 -
someuser✭✭✭✭I'll stay around like I did in SWTOR. If, like SWTOR everything is slanted and resources are geared towards cash shops / micro transactions I'll quietly move on.To make ESO look and feel like a PC MMO check out the following:
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Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.Yeah, I'm sure they'll be working night and day making creating engaging and innovative content from here on out. They definitely won't have the entire dev team working exclusively on mounts, pets, and costumes that they can create in a few hours and sell for $20 each. Why would they ever do that? Who likes making a quick buck for minimal investment?
Because you need a team of 100s to add mounts and pets to the game. LOOOL
From what we've seen Cash Shop is already created, there will be plenty of things to buy from the start anyway. Adding more things is not taking any of their valuable time.
Expect bigger content updates with the launch of P2P/B2P Hybrid Model. (Seriously stop calling it B2P, nothing wrong with it, however -> B2P games don't have a Subscription Fee).0 -
Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭You should have put an option in for I don't know yet. My sub expires March 30th. I'll be testing on the PTS and have a few days to play on my sub before deciding whether to keep paying to play.0 -
Fissh✭✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.With an influx of millions of console player revenues, development will increase. This assumption that a B2P business model will include less content is absurd. This is not a PC game going B2P, this is a B2P PC game going console. HUGE difference. Jumping to the conclusion of game ending.....ignorant.<X-Raided>3
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Sinbaar✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.Though i really don't know how to feel about the whole "news" and i am slightly pissed off - i will look into it and see how it will work. I think we all know where it will go by the end of march or april.Mitgründer der Allianz Bosriel!
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Mercurio✭✭✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!this poll sucks.3 -
Plantagenet✭✭✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!I'll prob end up quitting. I hate being lied to, I hate being manipulated... ZOS has done both.3
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Hartagon✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.
Because pissing off your customers and not giving them anything for their money doesn't seem like a very good method of obtaining long term revenue.BlueIllyrian wrote: »What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?
If they just wanted people to hit it and quit it they would have made a single player game.
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Because pissing off your customers and not giving them anything for their money doesn't seem like a very good method of obtaining long term revenue.BlueIllyrian wrote: »What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?
If they just wanted people to hit it and quit it they would have made a single player game.
Wrong, as STO amply showed, pissed off customers leave and new one come to try F2P and drop some bucks in the cash shop, plus you do get something for your money. And no, they would not, single player game is sold once, cash shop has infinite resale potential.1 -
Plantagenet✭✭✭Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!BlueIllyrian wrote: »Wrong, as STO amply showed, pissed off customers leave and new one come to try F2P ...
Did you really just use Star Trek Online as a 'positive' example of anything other than a stunning example of Skunk Excrement?
That game was a steaming pile of terrible.
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✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.You know, it's probably mean of me but I look at some of the names clicking the "I'm leaving" option and I'm okay with it.Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade
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Lord_Kreegan✭✭✭✭✭Look... this game is 99% solo play anyway. What's going to change as they go to the F2P/B2P model?
Nothing.
Oh, sure, eventually it'll go downhill like all of these games do after one of these transitions. That's pretty much guaranteed. But it's not going to happen overnight... in fact, based on other games, I supect it'll be a couple of years before it goes down the toliet.
In any case, after the disastrous release, what did anyone expect? Development teams don't release in that state because they want to; development teams don't want the deplorable reviews, the discredit to their reputations, or the dissatisfaction of their customers. They release in that state because of pressures from investors... as in, "You're over budget and behind schedule! Release now or else!"
There's no catching up afterwards, try as they may... so, inevitably, games end up going F2P/B2P.
If you're surprised, you have nobody to blame but yourselves. Sorry. If you can't recognize marketing-speech and learn to distrust it, then eventually you're going to buy gold, get a reverse mortgage, tell your doctor to switch you to some pharmaceutical that will eventually kill you, buy an electric car, buy a pocket hose, contact Fender-Bender-Gender-and Mom to handle all of your legal problems, vote for a politician who's good at making speeches and nothing else, hire a tax accountant to file a short form, get a huge life insurance policy (you know you have to die to collect, right?), trade your brand new perfectly good car in for some other brand just because it's red, sign up for diet foods that will be prepared and brought to your door... etc., etc., etc.
There's no such thing as a good deal. Once you realize that, you won't necessarily only buy good products, but you won't be surprised when a product isn't as good as advertised.
I apologize for pontificating... but people need to take responsibility for their own purchase decisions. Companys exist to make a profit, not to make you happy.Edited by Lord_Kreegan on January 22, 2015 1:22AM3 -
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✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.As long as I am having fun and I feel there is still value to my sub I will stick around.1 -
Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.BlueIllyrian wrote: »What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?
Because more investment = more content. That's the way it's been for every product out there.
You're funny.House Nyssara (NA)
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eonowakb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.The payment model is completly unimportant in the end. The bigger question is, will Zenimax continue with the great improvement through great updates on a short time basis still? Will the focus on group play? Will they look for PvE and/or PvP? Will the focus on solo-games content? The content counts - and not how you pay it. That will decide about the future of the game.Jerak Arenreth - legendär in Glenumbra - legendär überall2
