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Should ESO Plus offer a 10% AP booster?

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LonePirate
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One of the perks of being an ESO Plus subscriber is the +10% XP booster you will receive. Unsurprisingly, no mention of Cyrodiil or PVP was included in the ESO Plus announcement.

Should ESO Plus offer a +10% AP booster as well?
Edited by LonePirate on January 21, 2015 11:20PM

Should ESO Plus offer a 10% AP booster? 161 votes

Yes
42% 68 votes
No
45% 73 votes
Unsure
6% 11 votes
Don't know or don't care
5% 9 votes
  • Rylana
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    We would have to consult Crystallized on this
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  • NotSo
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    Not voting on it as 10% is nothing and I wouldn't pay for that, but who am I to judge if somebody else feels they need it.
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  • KBKB
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    Voted yes,
  • Wargaard
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    Yes, or no-one should be Emp is they're F2P/B2P.
  • Sypher
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    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
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  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    AP is currency, XP isn't.
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  • DeLindsay
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    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
    This, and +10% AP should not be added to ESO Plus either as many will scream "Pay Wall" feeling forced to either buy AP pots or sub monthly to keep up.
  • KBKB
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
    This, and +10% AP should not be added to ESO Plus either as many will scream "Pay Wall" feeling forced to either buy AP pots or sub monthly to keep up.

    Anyone who screams that is stupid, they are a company trying to making money ofc the want to entice us to pay..
  • DeLindsay
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    KBKB wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
    This, and +10% AP should not be added to ESO Plus either as many will scream "Pay Wall" feeling forced to either buy AP pots or sub monthly to keep up.

    Anyone who screams that is stupid, they are a company trying to making money ofc the want to entice us to pay..
    Yes because we all know everyone on the internet is smart.
  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    KBKB wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
    This, and +10% AP should not be added to ESO Plus either as many will scream "Pay Wall" feeling forced to either buy AP pots or sub monthly to keep up.

    Anyone who screams that is stupid, they are a company trying to making money ofc the want to entice us to pay..

    Sure, they want money but they also don't want to alienate their players (money source) by going back on their word and bringing in elements of Pay2Win.
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  • KBKB
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    Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »
    KBKB wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.
    This, and +10% AP should not be added to ESO Plus either as many will scream "Pay Wall" feeling forced to either buy AP pots or sub monthly to keep up.

    Anyone who screams that is stupid, they are a company trying to making money ofc the want to entice us to pay..

    Sure, they want money but they also don't want to alienate their players (money source) by going back on their word and bringing in elements of Pay2Win.

    They have been doing a bang up job of alienating us thus far.. what makes you think that's going to change?
  • ToRelax
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    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    Actually the exp boost will help getting champion points faster wich is already a P2W mechanic imo.
    Ofc, an AP boost would be far worse though.
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  • Nijjion
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    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    Well wouldn't it help with champ xp... meaning getting champ points easier?
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  • KBKB
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    ^ they need to give us a reason to sub
  • DeLindsay
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    Actually the exp boost will help getting champion points faster wich is already a P2W mechanic imo.
    Ofc, an AP boost would be far worse though.
    Champion System isn't remotely P2W, however I agree 100% that ZoS shouldn't add XP pots either. Having it added to ESO Plus is fine because it helps players who sub continue to level Alts faster, although it's a fair point that gives them an advantage with CP. At the same time, the exact same thing can be said about PvE players vs PvP players. There is literally no way to gain XP in PvP as fast as PvE (grinding) and even though ZoS has been slamming grinding spots with the nerf bat it's still the fastest way to gain XP in the game.
  • JamilaRaj
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    Definitely yes. And "win" button for 100 euros please (200 in Mac version). Alternatively, "win" button could have power equal to sum paid and more expensive buttons would override cheaper ones of lesser people.
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  • Sanct16
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    As long you cant purchase further buffs and just get the 10% from ESO+ I would say yes.
    If you don't want to pay the subscription fee you can still play the game but have some disadvanteges.
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  • Jitterbug
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    Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »
    AP is currency, XP isn't.

    But gold is
  • WraithAzraiel
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    The sky would open up, hell would rain on earth.

    Cats and dogs living together, MASS HYSTERIA.

    If they added an AP booster.
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  • Lava_Croft
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    I rather get more of those Crowns to buy more of those costumes than have any kind of 10% boost to my XP, Gold, AP or whatever gain.
  • Lhorion
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    All the discussions will end when you need the membership to enter Cyrodil.
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    Exactly this, since it is tied to Emperorship it's a bad idea to introduce such a booster.
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Lhorion wrote: »
    All the discussions will end when you need the membership to enter Cyrodil.

    It's part of the core game and will not be put behind a paywall. Everything that is in the game by 17th March will be accessible for everyone.

    Also, it would be stupid to basically remove a major part of the game.
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    Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »
    Sure, they want money but they also don't want to alienate their players (money source) by going back on their word and bringing in elements of Pay2Win.

    Which is why they will ease in the pay to win elements. They will start with some form(s) of pay to win or pay to play (restricted access pvp zone) for pvp.

    Then over time they will add more elements as players accept this as the norm - just like we have accepted as the norm the laggy buggy mess that is Cyrodil.
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    One of the perks of being an ESO Plus subscriber is the +10% XP booster you will receive. Unsurprisingly, no mention of Cyrodiil or PVP was included in the ESO Plus announcement.

    Should ESO Plus offer a +10% AP booster as well?

    They shouldn't have any such boosters at all. It's a nasty precedent.

    Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!
  • Lhorion
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    r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »
    Lhorion wrote: »
    All the discussions will end when you need the membership to enter Cyrodil.

    It's part of the core game and will not be put behind a paywall. Everything that is in the game by 17th March will be accessible for everyone.

    Also, it would be stupid to basically remove a major part of the game.

    Where did they say that all the parts that exist now will be free for all? They wrote that for those guys that have an abo at the moment nothing will change.
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    I don't see what the fuss is about ....If you carry on subbing you get these benefits anyway , if you cancel your sub then you don't get the benefits. Why should people who don't sub get benefits that I'm getting if I sub? Just stay subbed and stop moaning.
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    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    I don't see the distinction. You get a small boost to XP which means you level faster and get access to skills faster. A small boost to AP and you level faster and get access to skills faster. How are they different?
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  • Lhorion
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    Curragraigue wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    I don't see the distinction. You get a small boost to XP which means you level faster and get access to skills faster. A small boost to AP and you level faster and get access to skills faster. How are they different?

    Fore pvp players like Sypher AP are more important. He does not care about XP. But you are right. It is nearly the same, just in two different areas of the game.
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    Curragraigue wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    No, AP boost is actually P2W (Pay to win) while XP boost only helps you get max level faster.

    I don't see the distinction. You get a small boost to XP which means you level faster and get access to skills faster. A small boost to AP and you level faster and get access to skills faster. How are they different?

    indeed, especially since XP bonus will be relevant again as soon as the CS is there. either way, both XP and AP are ultimately quit-your-job2win so what really matters is charcter strength won/lost encounters
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