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More crowns for the £120 beta testers?
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
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staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
yes console games are perfect no bugs ac unity the crew heck most of the games last year shipped with bugs DC halo MCC ect. just think of a MMO on console will be like when small MP games cant work :P0 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
yes console games are perfect no bugs ac unity the crew heck most of the games last year shipped with bugs DC halo MCC ect. just think of a MMO on console will be like when small MP games cant work :P
Im not talking about the bugs, course all MMOs have bugs. I'm talking about all the improvements to the game made during the last few updates. Its very similar to what happens with the kickstarter MMOs. Except ESO is made by Bethesda, not a small Indie dev.0 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
They have done that same as all other mmo has don that have or had sub.. Can't see how its worse or bad?0 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
They have done that same as all other mmo has don that have or had sub.. Can't see how its worse or bad?
I'm not saying its worse. I just think it will be as bad as those other games (SWTOR).1 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
yes console games are perfect no bugs ac unity the crew heck most of the games last year shipped with bugs DC halo MCC ect. just think of a MMO on console will be like when small MP games cant work :P
Honestly, I pity the console players given the track record of this development group's patch process. At least on the PC they can just push what they want... on the consoles they have to get it thru MSoft and Sony before it can be published.1 -
IvorySamoan✭✭✭I also agree the 100 crowns per month subbed is a bit crap; now 1000 crowns per month subbed, that sounds about right.Just returning some video tapes.........0 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
They have done that same as all other mmo has don that have or had sub.. Can't see how its worse or bad?
I'm not saying its worse. I just think it will be as bad as those other games (SWTOR).
Ok way even whine so much then about something you don't know but only think...0 -
staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
yes console games are perfect no bugs ac unity the crew heck most of the games last year shipped with bugs DC halo MCC ect. just think of a MMO on console will be like when small MP games cant work :P
Im not talking about the bugs, course all MMOs have bugs. I'm talking about all the improvements to the game made during the last few updates. Its very similar to what happens with the kickstarter MMOs. Except ESO is made by Bethesda, not a small Indie dev.
small point ESO isn't made by Bethesda0 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭People are pretending as if Console wont have its own issues regarding this game.
They will have hurdles to overcome same as the PC version did.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.
yes console games are perfect no bugs ac unity the crew heck most of the games last year shipped with bugs DC halo MCC ect. just think of a MMO on console will be like when small MP games cant work :P
Im not talking about the bugs, course all MMOs have bugs. I'm talking about all the improvements to the game made during the last few updates. Its very similar to what happens with the kickstarter MMOs. Except ESO is made by Bethesda, not a small Indie dev.
small point ESO isn't made by Bethesda
Bethesda is a subsidiary of Zenimax Media. Zenimax Online is also a subsidiary of Zenimax Media. They are both privately owned and ESO itself was made by a a lot of people who had previously made Elder Scrolls games. Zenimax Online is just about as "Bethesda" as fall out or skyrim1 -
staticstorm✭✭right on Zenimax media owning them all but again Bethesda has nothing to do with ESO whole different team like Farcry 4 and AC unity both ubisoft different teams.Edited by staticstorm on January 21, 2015 5:36PM0
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Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »right on Zenimax media owning them all but again Bethesda has nothing to do with ESO whole different team like Farcry 4 and AC unity both ubisoft different teams.
Wow, i cba for this, look it up on google.0 -
staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »right on Zenimax media owning them all but again Bethesda has nothing to do with ESO whole different team like Farcry 4 and AC unity both ubisoft different teams.
Wow, i cba for this, look it up on google.
that's why I see Bethesda name all over the start of the game and the credits !0 -
kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭These companies will learn that f2p will eventually will FAIL. Of course they may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.0
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Siluen✭✭✭✭I am going to subscribe to ESO plus and am pretty much behind the new system, but I agree that 100 crowns per month subscribed thusfar feels like too little. Approximately 11 months equals 1100 crowns: that's less than one month of ESO plus subscription.
I hope the number is more of a placeholder and Zenimax will listen to the community as they have with the Champion System in order to come up with something we can all feel a bit happier about.
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Bouvin✭✭✭✭✭
✭We did all the beta testing for console players, can we at least have a significant reward for it?
U.S. dollars.
It'll actually be 11 months of sub time when F2P hits. So 11 x 15 = $165
Plus $80 if you bought the Imperial Edition and Adventurer packs (which they said would only be available for pre-release, another lie).
$165 + $80 = $245.
$245 beta testers are getting rewarded with 1,100 crowns.
1,100 crowns is worth $11. (1,500 crowns/mo for $15 = $1/100 crowns * 11).
So basically, I spent $245 to beta test a game and will be getting $11 in cash shop pixels in return.
ZOS does not appreciate its playerbase. They've proven that through lies and bait & switch.
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kijima✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't want player housing for ESO.
I wan't a frickin barn to keep all the pets ZOS keep sending my way.Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...1 -
Iago✭✭✭✭✭We did all the beta testing for console players, can we at least have a significant reward for it?
U.S. dollars.
It'll actually be 11 months of sub time when F2P hits. So 11 x 15 = $165
Plus $80 if you bought the Imperial Edition and Adventurer packs (which they said would only be available for pre-release, another lie).
$165 + $80 = $245.
$245 beta testers are getting rewarded with 1,100 crowns.
1,100 crowns is worth $11. (1,500 crowns/mo for $15 = $1/100 crowns * 11).
So basically, I spent $245 to beta test a game and will be getting $11 in cash shop pixels in return.
ZOS does not appreciate its playerbase. They've proven that through lies and bait & switch.
Is he right? I think so
@ZOS_UlyssesW @ZOS_SilviaS @ZOS_YigaelK @ZOS_MichelleA @ZOS_JasonL @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_JanS @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_PaulSage @ZOS_EvePThat which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
-Thomas Pain0 -
staticstorm✭✭
wow 1 year for bait and switch it took SWTOR 1 week to bait and switch their CE vendor(on box and forums stating unique items updated regularly) its been updated once. o again 5 months for F2P
Edited by staticstorm on January 22, 2015 4:08PM1 -
Raaecl✭✭We did all the beta testing for console players, can we at least have a significant reward for it?
U.S. dollars.
It'll actually be 11 months of sub time when F2P hits. So 11 x 15 = $165
Plus $80 if you bought the Imperial Edition and Adventurer packs (which they said would only be available for pre-release, another lie).
$165 + $80 = $245.
$245 beta testers are getting rewarded with 1,100 crowns.
1,100 crowns is worth $11. (1,500 crowns/mo for $15 = $1/100 crowns * 11).
So basically, I spent $245 to beta test a game and will be getting $11 in cash shop pixels in return.
ZOS does not appreciate its playerbase. They've proven that through lies and bait & switch.
Exactly. To be honest, we should get more than what new players get because we were basically kickstarter backers.0