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More crowns for the £120 beta testers?
Raaecl
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We did all the beta testing for console players, can we at least have a significant reward for it?
Edited by Raaecl on January 21, 2015 4:53PM 16
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭There are a lot of paying filthy casuals, you aren't as special as you think you are.0 -
Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I want a throne room full of crowns for my efforts. Far more than 100 for each month I've already played.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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✭✭✭✭✭Casuals aren't the problem. Freeloaders are.
Please stop blaming casuals, because we make up 90%-plus of the game's population. Without casuals, you'd just have 50 people in a circle stroking one another's egos about how good their spreadsheets look.----
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✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »Casuals aren't the problem. Freeloaders are.
Please stop blaming casuals, because we make up 90%-plus of the game's population. Without casuals, you'd just have 50 people in a circle stroking one another's egos about how good their spreadsheets look.
Casuals are fine, consoles are not.Daggerfall Covenant
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Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.1 -
kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭These companies will learn that f2p will work for a very short time but eventually will FAIL. Of course thy may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.1
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staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.0 -
briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Stick your crowns up your arse I don't want any.
/cancelledIf your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]3 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »These companies will learn that f2p will work for a very short time but eventually will FAIL. Of course thy may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.
F2P is actually the model that works most effectively to monetize MMOs today (with the notable exception of WoW... which will have more subs that the next 5 combined until they decide to shut it down). The talk before ESO launched was why they went with a subscription model... and we were told it was for all the "content". Now we know that's false, but, in the end, they will make much more in any F2P model than they could have with a straight sub.0 -
staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.Edited by staticstorm on January 21, 2015 5:05PM0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
Wow... same argument, different thread.
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Raaecl✭✭kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »These companies will learn that f2p will work for a very short time but eventually will FAIL. Of course thy may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.
F2P is actually the model that works most effectively to monetize MMOs today (with the notable exception of WoW... which will have more subs that the next 5 combined until they decide to shut it down). The talk before ESO launched was why they went with a subscription model... and we were told it was for all the "content". Now we know that's false, but, in the end, they will make much more in any F2P model than they could have with a straight sub.
Yes but it will mean that not all players get to play the game as it was meant to be played. Parts of the game will now be locked for certain players. Paid players will also get more xp and gold and thats just P2W.
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staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
Wow... same argument, different thread.
/golfclap
prob but the point stands.0 -
Aoife32001✭✭✭✭kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »These companies will learn that f2p will work for a very short time but eventually will FAIL. Of course thy may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.
F2P is actually the model that works most effectively to monetize MMOs today (with the notable exception of WoW... which will have more subs that the next 5 combined until they decide to shut it down). The talk before ESO launched was why they went with a subscription model... and we were told it was for all the "content". Now we know that's false, but, in the end, they will make much more in any F2P model than they could have with a straight sub.
That may be true, but only as a pay-to-win game. They're not going to keep this game afloat simply with cosmetics and "convenience" items/services. That is no doubt why seemingly every single MMO that does this ends up pay-to-win.0 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.0 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?0 -
staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
better they close the game then ? they don't have to offer sub payers anything more then the bonus.Edited by staticstorm on January 21, 2015 5:13PM0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »These companies will learn that f2p will work for a very short time but eventually will FAIL. Of course thy may have already caught on to it and are just cashing in before dumping it.
F2P is actually the model that works most effectively to monetize MMOs today (with the notable exception of WoW... which will have more subs that the next 5 combined until they decide to shut it down). The talk before ESO launched was why they went with a subscription model... and we were told it was for all the "content". Now we know that's false, but, in the end, they will make much more in any F2P model than they could have with a straight sub.
Yes but it will mean that not all players get to play the game as it was meant to be played. Parts of the game will now be locked for certain players. Paid players will also get more xp and gold and thats just P2W.
Extra XP is not P2W... many games offer xp boosters.
Extra gold in this game is garbage.0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
He's making the same argument everywhere... don't feed him.0 -
staticstorm✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
He's making the same argument everywhere... don't feed him.
I said it twice, again if its wrong please by all means point the faults to it.Edited by staticstorm on January 21, 2015 5:15PM0 -
Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes. 500 for having an account and 100 for each previous month. That's 500 base plus 1200 for 12 months, not the 1500 you'll get per month after March 17.You get crowns for every month you have had an active sub. Check out the FAQ.
Some of us think that's a little low.
Adding from FAQ:
2) As a current subscriber: If you are an active subscriber when The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited launches, you will receive 500 crowns for having a game account, plus 100 crowns for each 30-day period you have been an active subscriber.Edited by Slurg on January 21, 2015 5:17PMHappy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.1 -
Raaecl✭✭staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »
Im referring to people who bought the game and paid subscription for months. It just isnt fair, its like SWTOR all over again.
fair ? lol whats fair to the SWG players or city of heros/villians that their game no longer exists ?
and SWTOR made you sub lol free 2 play was a demo, pay for skill bars pay for hide helm pay for xp to make it normal, pay to enter more than 5 matchs or dungeons, pay for anything remotely to do with QoL.
I dont think you get my point...
nope I don't u played and enjoyed the game with your cash, what does it change in a few months it will be free?
did u not enjoy the time you spent was it not worth the £/$ per hour you played it for.
I did enjoy the game, but MMOs are supposed to be played for years, not 7 months. Im talking about the future of this game. I just think that we should get better rewards for what is really a paid open beta.
How is it agian its a beta?? I have enjoyed the game. and again tell me of a mmo that was bug free? Don't really get the beta point?
Have you played any Indie MMOs? most of them ask for £50 to £100 for beta until the final buy to play release. I personally dont see a difference between that and this. The console users are getting a game which finally feels like a full finished product.2
