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Provisioner clarrifaction please

kelly.medleyb14_ESO
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Before:

"The regeneration benefit of drinking will now stack with food benefits (some balancing changes may occur)"

Now:

"Drink buffs have been improved greatly to make them competitive with food buffs."

What does this mean?

Will drinks stack with food as promised? If not, why.
  • Ahdora
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    No, not as of now.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/146667/new-provisioning-update-from-zos-today#latest

    ^ That has a link to the official article. There's also an official discussion thread somewhere.
    During the design phase of the Provisioner revamp, we discussed the possibility of allowing players to use both a food and a drink at the same time. However, we’ve decided at this time that we want there to be an interesting choice between food and drink – some situations call for food, while other situations call for drink. To this end, we’ve improved the regeneration(s) granted by drinks by a significant margin, but we’ve left food and drink unable to stack with one another.

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    We’ll be watching the usage of food and drink on PTS, and going forward on Live. If feedback and metrics show that drinks remain widely unused after the improvements, we will review our options (including but not limited to making them stack) and act accordingly.
    Edited by Ahdora on January 20, 2015 6:57PM
    Heals With Stick, V11 Argonian Nightblade Healer, NA-EP
  • AlnilamE
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    I can see how regen would be good for healers, for example.

    I'll be interested in trying that out.
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  • Ahdora
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I can see how regen would be good for healers, for example.

    I'll be interested in trying that out.

    I'll probably try it out as well, since softcaps will be removed, but as it stands I use food because my magicka regen is already over softcap thanks to armor and jewelry.
    Heals With Stick, V11 Argonian Nightblade Healer, NA-EP
  • Emma_Overload
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    Wow, if this is true, one of the biggest draws of the provisioning revamp got nerfed before it even made it out the door!

    The regen rate of drinks needs to be at least *6* times what it is now to make it even remotely competitive with foods.

    Think I'm exaggerating? Tri-stat food is equivalent to a full set of armor enchants and then some, while tri-stat drink is about the same as 1.5 jewelry enchants... WTF?
    Edited by Emma_Overload on January 20, 2015 8:09PM
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  • jnjapexb14_ESO
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    The *ONE* thing we asked for they don't do... sigh.. I understand balance issues but really ZOS it's not that hard.
  • Ouranos
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    You can't nerf something that never existed.
  • MornaBaine
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    Ahdora wrote: »
    No, not as of now.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/146667/new-provisioning-update-from-zos-today#latest

    ^ That has a link to the official article. There's also an official discussion thread somewhere.
    During the design phase of the Provisioner revamp, we discussed the possibility of allowing players to use both a food and a drink at the same time. However, we’ve decided at this time that we want there to be an interesting choice between food and drink – some situations call for food, while other situations call for drink. To this end, we’ve improved the regeneration(s) granted by drinks by a significant margin, but we’ve left food and drink unable to stack with one another.

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    We’ll be watching the usage of food and drink on PTS, and going forward on Live. If feedback and metrics show that drinks remain widely unused after the improvements, we will review our options (including but not limited to making them stack) and act accordingly.

    There are not enough words that will not be censored to express my annoyance with this.
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

  • Slurg
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    I guess it's about time for everyone to post the original quote saying food and drink would stack in 1.6 in their signature and throw unholy rage quit tantrums in a dozen new forum threads every day until ZOS caves in and changes it.

    Oh wait most provisioners are far too civilized and polite to act like that.

    Cue mild disappontment.

    Thanks for posting the new info. I take a day off from the forum and miss a lot apparently.
    Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
    Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.
  • kelly.medleyb14_ESO
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    Yeah no problem @Slurg I was kinda disappointed at this too. Some new GOLD coloured v14 recipes that include like + Health AND +Health regen for example would alleviate this disappointment though *hint hint*
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