When Negate Tanking Goes Well- Video

Jahosefat · January 2015

http://youtu.be/h4RxepnXYO0

Thanks for watching

Fivefivesix · January 2015

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Jahosefat · January 2015

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

Mojomonkeyman · January 2015

Well, you negate, but I don`t see you tanking.

Basically some NA randoms bunching up in a postern and insisting on attacking npcs instead of the only enemy player around. They didnt even realize you were there until you dropped the 3rd negate, and didnt actively try to attack you like at all?!

Well done, but you couldve done that with any build and any setup imo.

How about a video negate tanking in open field with enemies actually reacting to you, I would love to watch that.

Derra · January 2015

Why would nobody attack you?
I don´t understand this game anymore.
What the hell were those people doing?

Iyas · January 2015

It's NA, they dont block, they don't attack! I wish we have these people on EU

Pancake-Tragedy · January 2015

Iyas wrote: »

It's NA, they dont block, they don't attack! I wish we have these people on EU

It's only a phenomenon that you see with DC pugs.

DezIsDead · January 2015

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

It's NA, they dont block, they don't attack! I wish we have these people on EU

It's only a phenomenon that you see with DC pugs.

NA I see AD pugs do it too, basically you see a lot of players not blocking, the odd thing is those weren't all terrible players, not good but not god awful. Idk what they were doing, maybe their drunk

Edited cause iPad hates the words pugs, it preferred pigs

IxSTALKERxI · January 2015

It was very common for sorcs to solo defend outposts back in the day when ground oils were a thing, similar to this only instead of wall of elements pour oils in the corners of the room.

Sanct16 · January 2015

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

WRX · January 2015

That guild invite is still open

But honestly, good video man. Probably a free 8k AP!

Asgari · January 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

It was very common for sorcs to solo defend outposts back in the day when ground oils were a thing, similar to this only instead of wall of elements pour oils in the corners of the room.

The good ol days. Sit in a corner pour oil, cast 3 woe, negate .... Repeat until you solo wiped 40+ players.

Tripwyr · January 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Asgari · January 2015

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Hahaha

Andferne · January 2015

That is a nightly occurrence for Sorc pvp with me as well. Except we seem to run completely different set ups.

Sorc PvP:
Negate? Check.
Streak? Check.
GG

Sanct16 · January 2015

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

WRX · January 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

Just to confirm..

They 100% stack.

Pancake-Tragedy · January 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

You are arguing something you didn't test? Interesting. As someone who chases zergs while spamming blockade of elements and often sees ticks of "x15" in FTC, I can confirm that they do stack.

Thanks for your input

themdogesbite · January 2015

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

You are arguing something you didn't test? Interesting. As someone who chases zergs while spamming blockade of elements and often sees ticks of "x15" in FTC, I can confirm that they do stack.

Thanks for your input

It isnt stacking on the same player.

Pancake-Tragedy · January 2015

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

You are arguing something you didn't test? Interesting. As someone who chases zergs while spamming blockade of elements and often sees ticks of "x15" in FTC, I can confirm that they do stack.

Thanks for your input

It isnt stacking on the same player.

Right, but the field itself is stacking and is able to hit large amounts of players.

Aoe_Barbecue · January 2015

A player can only be affected by one wall from one person, two from two people, etc. One person's walls don't stack on the same person afaik. So wall spamming only makes sense when putting walls down into a group of 18+.

Sanct16 · January 2015

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Jahosefat wrote: »

Fivefivesix wrote: »

Cool video thanks for posting! What is the skill you were using where your character kept bashing the bottom of his staff on the ground?

Thank you very much! That was unstable wall of elements, you can place multiple copies of it in the same area (at the moment this is getting changed in 1.6 to one copy).

you can't.

Yes you can. Thank you for your input.

Try spam it on someone.
If they would stack, you would have 3 normal ticks + the explosion within 1 second when spamming it. However you will have only 1 normal tick + 1 explosion ticking at the same time. So the explosions do stack, but the walls itself do not.

I think you can have several walls next to each other, although I did not do any testing on this. Fire walls stay visible if you cast several but ice walls vanish after a second wall is casted (at least with blockade, not sure for unstable) but if you stack them at the same location, you just waste magicka and would be better off with elemental ring if you want something to spam.

Thank you for your input.....

You are arguing something you didn't test? Interesting. As someone who chases zergs while spamming blockade of elements and often sees ticks of "x15" in FTC, I can confirm that they do stack.

Thanks for your input

I did not do testing on the bolted part. On the stacking itself I did.

Walls have no AoE cap tho so you hit all the people standing in it, even with 1 wall.

FallenProphet · January 2015

The DOT just refreshes on same target, it doesn't stack, however the reason to stack walls is only for unstable wall of elements; the final explosion does stack, so you spam cast and only get one DOT but then you get a chain of explosions.

Lionxoft · January 2015

How is this tanking? You weren't being focused at all. Sure it's cool and all but it's hardly tanking.

Jahosefat · January 2015

FallenProphet wrote: »

you get a chain of explosions.

This is the main reason to spam unstable wall (explosion does more damage than regular tick and can crit) but you can also simply cover more area with multiples down and keep the damage going. Not the most mag efficient thing to do but they were feeding me more mag than I could spend at the time. Might have gone a little overboard but I'm human

Lionxoft wrote: »

How is this tanking? You weren't being focused at all. Sure it's cool and all but it's hardly tanking.

I came up with the name myself maybe you can help me come up with something more fitting

If you notice absorption field was going off ~x8 almost every second most of the fight. They were casting things (just the wrong things

) so a lot of damage was mitigated by negate (hence the name negate-tank).

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

They didnt even realize you were there until you dropped the 3rd negate, and didnt actively try to attack you like at all?!

They had been harassed for about 15 mins by my friend and I preceding this, so unless they suffer from short term memory loss they knew we were there

But I agree, if there was a strategy it was not a good one.

DezIsDead wrote: »

the odd thing is those weren't all terrible players, not good but not god awful. Idk what they were doing, maybe their drunk

I'm not saying it means much, but there were 2 former emps in that group *chuckle*.

WRX wrote: »

That guild invite is still open

It might be time for me to try something new