Question about champion system.

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

Hi, I have a question about champion system and how it will work. I have two VR14 characters, so.... How many points I will recieve? only 70?. If this is the case, I think this is unfair because I have spent many more time in the game than a guy that only have one VR14 character.

dharbert · January 2015

70 is the max we are starting off with.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · January 2015

You know the answer, you stated it, you don't have a question at all for some reason you felt the need to start yet another thread on this well-thrashed dead horse.

Why?

The OP in this thread is clear, anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension should easily be able to understand it:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/145544/feedback-to-the-champion-system/p1

Note that last part of example three at the end:

since you can only receive a total of 70 Champion Points from the conversion.

/thread

dharbert · January 2015

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

You know the answer, you stated it, you don't have a question at all for some reason you felt the need to start yet another thread on this well-thrashed dead horse.

Why?

You nailed it. Some players are going to cry no matter what Zenimax gives us.

pronkg · January 2015

It's only unfair cause the champion system is so great. In any other game it would be just the same. You made 2 toons just be happy they both benefit from your hard work. Oh yeh and also any other char you make in the future.

Spoiled people these days

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

Cry??? this system is like Zenimax would add VR16 in the next patch and only one of my chars start at VR14 and my alter Char (VR14) would have to start at VR1. It is OK for you? I am sure all people saying that it's Ok is because they only have one VR14 char. So, don't be selfish.....

The hours I spend to lvl up my second char don't care?

pronkg · January 2015

They don't count no, just deal with it. And no I have several vet toons and I understand their decision. Or would you rather have the 30 points they promised at first

It's a new system they introduce in a careful way which is very very intelligent.

What if it wasn't account wide? You would still have 70 points on both chars. That's the way it is. Complain all you want it's not gonna be different. Accept it and move on with your life

Ahdora · January 2015

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO wrote: »

Cry??? this system is like Zenimax would add VR16 in the next patch and only one of my chars start at VR14 and my alter Char (VR14) would have to start at VR1. It is OK for you? I am sure all people saying that it's Ok is because they only have one VR14 char. So, don't be selfish.....

The hours I spend to lvl up my second char don't care?

You get to spend the 70 points on ALL your characters.

pronkg · January 2015

That's not enough for him

pronkg · January 2015

He wants to be OP

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

pronkg wrote: »

They don't count no, just deal with it. And no I have several vet toons and I understand their decision. Or would you rather have the 30 points they promised at first

It's a new system they introduce in a careful way which is very very intelligent.

What if it wasn't account wide? You would still have 70 points on both chars. That's the way it is. Complain all you want it's not gonna be different. Accept it and move on with your life

Some people (that have tons of hours to play) can understand the decision.

in my case, I feel totally ripped off. ZOS will take away a lot of progression hours in one of my chars without give me anything in return.

pronkg wrote: »

He wants to be OP

I don't want be OP, I only want a fair system.

Terminus · January 2015

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO wrote: »

Some people (that have tons of hours to play) can understand the decision.

in my case, I feel totally ripped off. ZOS will take away a lot of progression hours in one of my chars without give me anything in return.

Well actually, to name a few things that they're giving:

1. Those 70 points can be spent on EVERY character, so think of it as 140 points for your 2 VR14 characters, +70 more points for every character you make after regardless of level.
2. Endgame is actually going to feel like a skill progression rather than getting an extra 12 attribute points and mild armor upgrades.
3. 1. There is rumor we're getting a full respec of our characters, thank you 30k gold
4. We still get the Justice System
5. We still get VR10 Recipes
6. ????
7. Imokwiththis

pronkg · January 2015

They are not taking away anything? They are providing a new system which will make you stronger.

If they didn't provide this system you would just have several toons with their own lvls and skills. Like you knew when you made them.

I understand it can feel bad knowing you could have had more if ZoS decided to. But they decided not to. And really you should try to understand why they do this. They are trying to not destroy the game with one patch short said. You just expected more and you get less that's a bummer. I didn't expect anything and got allot so I'm happy

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

pronkg wrote: »

They are not taking away anything? They are providing a new system which will make you stronger.

If they didn't provide this system you would just have several toons with their own lvls and skills. Like you knew when you made them.

I understand it can feel bad knowing you could have had more if ZoS decided to. But they decided not to. And really you should try to understand why they do this. They are trying to not destroy the game with one patch short said. You just expected more and you get less that's a bummer. I didn't expect anything and got allot so I'm happy

Sorry but I think you are wrong. If they are only providing a new system, so tell me why are they giving 70 points to VR14 characters????

I prefer all people get 0 points (because is a new system) than get the same amount of point than people that have played many less time than me. Sounds selfish but I am only asking about a fair system.

pronkg · January 2015

Not the only one but sadly for you a very small amount of people want what you want

pronkg · January 2015

Most people find the current way very fair

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

pronkg wrote: »

Not the only one but sadly for you a very small amount of people want what you want

If all of you are happy to don't obtain any recognition by your play time, is impossible you can understand my point.

I don't want run ahead people.... I only want claim for something that I consider fair. If is this the case, then I don't have nothing more to say.....

Bloodfang · January 2015

I was surprised when people didn't cry more about this.
My guess is they didn't even understand how it's going to work

They are in for a big surprise when Champion System launches, let the crying begin!

ZOS_AmeliaR · January 2015

Greetings, all. We understand that our game design decisions will not always please everyone, but we also expect discussions about these decisions to be civil and respectful. As the OP's question has been answered - if you have at least one VR14 character when Update 6 goes live, each character on your account will be able to spend 70 points - and the remainder of this thread has served mostly to troll the OP, we're going to close this thread. If anyone has additional questions related to the Champion Point system, we encourage you to post them in the latest official thread discussing how points will be allotted when Update 6 goes live. Thank you for understanding.