Many issues with char creation. Need adjustments

Tapio75 · January 2015

Everybody or many or something knows and acknownledges that character creation has many issues that prevent characters look good in game.

Due this i propose that minor change for character deletion lockouts are made.

While character is still at Coldharbour escape sequence, allow character deletions without any penalties. Deleting character in Coldharbour will not engage deletion cooldown and will not consume deletion.

This will allow players to see and inspect their characters in game with various stances and weapons before really starting to plat the game.

Botting will not become problem because of this since there is not much valuable loot there and there are no means to really move gold or items to any vendor or anything.

dharbert · January 2015

I'm so glad you posted this, it's a subject that has never been brought up before......

AshySamurai · January 2015

Once you complete escape from coldharbour next time you will be asked if you want to skip it. How you deal with it?
Well, it's not a bad idea IMO. Sounds pretty reasonable. I had problems with voice. I had to recreate character because of it.

AshySamurai · January 2015

dharbert wrote: »

I'm so glad you posted this, it's a subject that has never been brought up before......

At least it's something new. Dead horse? Sure. But at least it's an idea how to solve this problem. Most topics are only fix it fix it fix it.

http://youtu.be/1Isjgc0oX0s

SFBryan18 · January 2015

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

RainfeatherUK · January 2015

Mimic Perfect World International. Newly created Characters can be edited for a period of 1-2 days via the full chargen to allow for minor changes - then locked, done.

For a person who used to struggle to picture their character ingame via creation screen I do know what you mean. It takes time to get what you want.

That aside Im going to guess the PTS still doesnt have the limit imposed. So try that and save/remember the settings.

Rosveen · January 2015

Or just give us barber shop. Problem solved.

TheShadowScout · January 2015

Post generation character edit option of some sort.
Solves this problem, and others of similar flavor... I for one have several characters I would like to make minor adjustments for, most of them played for some months... a makeup option change here, a scar swap there, a skin color darkening on this one, a eye color change on that one to reflect her newly acquired werewolf status... that sort of thing.

nerevarine1138 · January 2015

SFBryan18 wrote: »

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

Yeah! I hate it when my decisions matter! Boo for consequences!

Tapio75 · January 2015

SFBryan18 wrote: »

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

Exept that ingame character alteration should only consist of something you really can change with your character like hair, tattoo, adornments, beards... Maybe skin tone for sun lovers.. Alteration of body and face figures should not be available after creation. Being able to delete character within certain time or when still in certain area like Coldharbour would be best since that would not give botters much of anything to bot for. There is no profit farming in Coldharbour and well.. If you skip that prison, it is choice we do which will forfeit any deletion and deletion lockouts will come normally. Coldharbour only takes couple minutes to get through so it of litle nuisance to anyone.

RainfeatherUK wrote: »

Mimic Perfect World International. Newly created Characters can be edited for a period of 1-2 days via the full chargen to allow for minor changes - then locked, done.

For a person who used to struggle to picture their character ingame via creation screen I do know what you mean. It takes time to get what you want.

That aside Im going to guess the PTS still doesnt have the limit imposed. So try that and save/remember the settings.

Thats quite a bit of trouble doing it that way. But for saved characters... Id really love a button which says "Save character appearance for later use" ^^ That way, once we get a perfect character, we can just load that appearance when making a new character and do minor alterations after that. Much easier.

Tapio75 · January 2015

It would really help much if they just change that "Mew" novice armor shown on the creation back to racial novice armor instead and change the stance of the character in creation to be the exact same it has in the game... Then it would be tons easier and i would think it could at least lessen the retries i have to do when perfecting mu characters.

Champion system, justice sys and spellcrafting may all be exiting things for me but i just hate it that they keep adding stuff that should have been from the lauch and things like this are left unattended or even made worse like that new novice armor did.

EDIT: Loving it, another 24 hours of wait time since i was too stupid to change back to class i was gonna use instead of class that has armor i planned to use -_-

Other nice thing recently was that i needed to clean up old tryout characters.. There was 6 of them.. I very kindly asked support if they could just delete these for me but no.. They just said i have to wait for character delete lockouts but they never come since i somehow manage to screw many times these new characters i create and those that i never play just keep cluttering my character list

Sad thing is that i could alwats be planning new characters and play them as i do not easily get tired of doing stuff again and again in some different mentality or order or whatever but instead i mostly keep waiting for delete lockouts to unlock and end up wasting paid playtime by watching tv or going out (Which is no waste at all btw) instead of playing.

i really think that there needs to be some way to delete characters while not triggering deletion cooldowns to try to make exact perfect characters.. (Aside from ingame barber shop thingy that should also exiwst)

MornaBaine · January 2015

1. Change the darn LIGHTING in the character creation screen! Make it the exact same bright daylight as we have at the character selection screen when we are logging in. The poor lighting is my #1 pet peeve with this system! Far less people would want to reroll or make alterations IF WE COULD SEE WHAT WE WERE DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE!
2. Add the darn barber shop already! NEW HAIRSTYLES, new makeup choices, new tats, new scars, ability to change hair color and yes ADD NEW HAIR COLORS! No contrived "RP system that allows players to give these things to each other" thanks anyway Sage!

Just put a vendor in at the marketplaces and be done with it already!
3. Enable complete character overhaul. Name, sex, any and everything about the way your character LOOKS. Have it cost a ton of in-game gold. Done!

And to those of you being snarky about the "dead horse"...it ain't dead til ZOS finally takes notice and DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THIS! Like, you know, LISTENING to their paying customers.

radiostar · January 2015

There are some good loots outside the prison, so it would have to be before going out the door with Lyris. And no skipping the prison allowed to be sure. So the cooldown seems simpler. Just improve the char creation before getting ingame.

SFBryan18 · January 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

Yeah! I hate it when my decisions matter! Boo for consequences!

There are plenty of other decisions without the need for this one to matter. Especially with the limited lighting and camera angle during character creation. You can make your decision be final while the rest of us use more freedom.

nerevarine1138 · January 2015

SFBryan18 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

Yeah! I hate it when my decisions matter! Boo for consequences!

There are plenty of other decisions without the need for this one to matter. Especially with the limited lighting and camera angle during character creation. You can make your decision be final while the rest of us use more freedom.

Except your post also asks that we be able to change classes.

Want better lighting during character creation? OK. Want to be able to change your beard/tattoos? Fine by me.

Want to be able to completely alter your character's appearance and ability set because you have the attention span of the average guppy? That's a problem.

SFBryan18 · January 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

It's not a dead horse because this problem does not get enough attention. I don't agree with what the OP suggests. I believe we need features to allow alteration of our characters appearance. It's just really messed up that we invest so many hours building a character that we can not edit. This not only includes appearance features, but also class abilities. Progress in this game takes so long, why would we not be allowed to alter our beginning choices later? I'll tell you why. Some *** made a stupid decision. That's it. Think of that ugly smile or that stupid nose that months later you can't fix. Or maybe that lame face paint that was cool for the first few hours. And also that class you found out to be incredibly boring. Want to change it? Start over. *** your months of progress. We don't give a ***.

Yeah! I hate it when my decisions matter! Boo for consequences!

There are plenty of other decisions without the need for this one to matter. Especially with the limited lighting and camera angle during character creation. You can make your decision be final while the rest of us use more freedom.

Except your post also asks that we be able to change classes.

Want better lighting during character creation? OK. Want to be able to change your beard/tattoos? Fine by me.

Want to be able to completely alter your character's appearance and ability set because you have the attention span of the average guppy? That's a problem.

Average guppy? Who even says that?

And your point is that people who can't pay attention choose the wrong class and body appearance?

Pretty poor point. Maybe you didn't realize this, but people change. They are allowed to want something new, but it's ridiculous that they should be forced to throw away hundreds of hours of progress just to try different things. Especially when starting over means they would just be skipping through the exact same content. Video games are suppose to be fun, not some lame grind just because you say so. So take you lame excuses of attention lacking guppies and get lost because your argument was so terrible, I think you should be the one who is concerned with being more similar to a guppy.

AlnilamE · January 2015

The solution to your problem is a better character creation interface and the option to make cosmetic appearance changes after the fact (via a barber shop with limited options).

Not removing the character deletion limit.