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Why we get punished for resetting skills by paying $@#$load of gold ?
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Resetting skills:
Why do the game punish players to pay so much gold just to reset skills ?
their are so many skills to choose from, but very limited amount of gold we can get in a day. So why why does it cost SOO MUCH GOLD just to reset leaving us broke. I love to experiment in skills and builds but, the cost of resetting so much and it is limiting all players disappointing. We Pay $15 a month , this should be free and this should be included, Why do I even have to bother writing this post ?
Why do the game punish players to pay so much gold just to reset skills ?
their are so many skills to choose from, but very limited amount of gold we can get in a day. So why why does it cost SOO MUCH GOLD just to reset leaving us broke. I love to experiment in skills and builds but, the cost of resetting so much and it is limiting all players disappointing. We Pay $15 a month , this should be free and this should be included, Why do I even have to bother writing this post ?
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ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Basically it's a goldsink. There are not enough goldsinks in the game and this is one. I have 2 full loadouts as well as all crafting maxed out and still have plenty of Skillpoints and still don't have all the ones from Cyrodill. Also its a way to make you think before spending skills.8 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭They've actually lowered the price quite a bit, haven't they? And the option to only reset morphs is pretty cheap.
If you can't afford a respec, you can always just get more skill points... there are a great many to be had.5 -
xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We were used to spend way more then you need to pay for it now. Its not actually expensive.
Couple of month ago they split the cost to half.
Later on you will find the price is low. You earn way more gold then to bother about skill reset cost. Unless you only stand in town
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dietlime✭✭✭✭Resetting skills:
Why do the game punish players to pay so much gold just to reset skills ?
their are so many skills to choose from, but very limited amount of gold we can get in a day. So why why does it cost SOO MUCH GOLD just to reset leaving us broke. I love to experiment in skills and builds but, the cost of resetting so much and it is limiting all players disappointing. We Pay $15 a month , this should be free and this should be included, Why do I even have to bother writing this post ?
When you hit VR you'll either have to choose all your skills unlocked and morphed, your WW or vampire tree, or multiple craft trees.
Basically, to prevent people from respeccing skill points that allow them max crafting in all professions.0 -
Ourorboros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are threads here with tips for earning gold. Then the cost won't be a hassle. SEARCH is your friend.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
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ESO: the game you hate to love and love to hate....( >_<) May RNG be with you (*,_,*)1 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Get all of your skill points and then you'll only have to reset morphs.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
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V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)1 -
Zorgon_The_Revenged✭✭✭✭✭best time to do it is when ZoS change skills about and refund points you spent (now that they do it, recent example being the s&b/2H reset).
I'd wait till 1.6 as they should be changing a lot of skills and hopefully refund the points (maybe even a free reset, if they're feeling generous).4 -
Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They already mentioned on ESO Live that we will all get a free respec after 1.6 is released because of the major changes in abilities. I would just wait a couple of months.0 -
dharbert✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You should be thankful that the respec cost is only 50 gold per point. It used to be 100 gold per point.2 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭The OP isn't wrong. Regardless of the recent reduced cost and addition of morph only respec, the cost is still prohibitively high early on for those who wish to try out new things. I have 270 SP on my VR14 and am still having to choose wisely what I point into because I'm full Crafting and a Tank/Healer/DPS. I literally have zero points left atm while missing only a few passives and abilities (that I don't use anyway). I'm not complaining for myself as I feel my 270 points is adequate for my needs, but I 100% agree the system we have in place does NOT allow for freedom of choice to build how you want to without dumping a ton of gold into it regularly. That plus having to respec and re talent 270 points is a pain in the a$$.
I do hope that with the Champion System coming shortly that ZoS will take a page from that and make the Skill Point system an individual +/- "respec" like how they talk about CP. They've said with CP you can just hit the + or - on each item in each Star to add or subtract a point. They could keep the current all or nothing and the morph only respecs, just add the a-la-cart option of choosing points one at a time, even if it was the original 100/per cost.1 -
miahq✭✭✭Dear god, is there nothing people won't complain about? Be glad they even give you the option, rather than complaining about it. It's meant to be both a gold sink and to prevent players from just switching things every few hours. If you want to try a few different builds, try a few different characters. Just because we're paying monthly doesn't entitle us to anything, and frankly this is a pretty minor thing to come on here complaining about.6
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Digiman✭✭✭✭✭To sum it up nicely, Crafting Skills. As most of you know it would be super easy if the skill point reset system price to didn't scale up with the number of points you had.
If not then you would certainly spend most of you time switching your crafting points so you can get the optimal gear for your character quickly then switch it up again to sink those points back into combat when your doing PvE and PvE or stick them in ones like alchemy and provisioning so you can get the most out of stat boosts.1 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Even though the cost was cut in half, it is pretty expensive for higher level players.0 -
phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.1 -
phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.
For any player not possessing a reasonable amount of gold, for sure.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)1 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.
For any player not possessing a reasonable amount of gold, for sure.
How much gold does the average person have?
After a better horse, bank, and inventory space...Edited by SFBryan18 on January 2, 2015 12:41PM0 -
phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.
For any player not possessing a reasonable amount of gold, for sure.
How much gold does the average person have?
After a better horse, bank, and inventory space...
Don't know. I have 4 horses (non imperial), bank & inventory space plus about 250k gold, from 5 months of play.
Reality is the cost of resetting skills is far cheaper now than in the past.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.
For any player not possessing a reasonable amount of gold, for sure.
How much gold does the average person have?
After a better horse, bank, and inventory space...
Don't know. I have 4 horses (non imperial), bank & inventory space plus about 250k gold, from 5 months of play.
Reality is the cost of resetting skills is far cheaper now than in the past.
It's exactly half. Saying the phrase "far cheaper" does not make it more or less than half. It was 100g for each point before and now it's 50g.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 2, 2015 12:41PM0 -
phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »It is much cheaper now than it used to be, they cut the price way down.
Sure is. Reset a level 6 veteran tonight, which cost 8500 gold. Last time it cost around 20k.
8.5k is still a lot though.
For any player not possessing a reasonable amount of gold, for sure.
How much gold does the average person have?
After a better horse, bank, and inventory space...
Don't know. I have 4 horses (non imperial), bank & inventory space plus about 250k gold, from 5 months of play.
Reality is the cost of resetting skills is far cheaper now than in the past.
It's exactly half. Saying the phrase "far cheaper" does not make it more or less than half. It was 100g for each point before and now it's 50g.
Half in far cheaper in my book. Hey, you do not need to agree. So be it.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Half is cheaper, but still expensive. Especially for newer players who need to try all the abilities out to find which ones they like.
I personally feel 1,000g would be a good price. Traveling to the shrine and picking new skills is hassle enough. Trying to force people to pay for crafting skill points? Maybe crafting should be unlocked some other way and they just cut the skill points down some.Edited by SFBryan18 on January 2, 2015 12:57PM0 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭Resetting skills:
Why do the game punish players to pay so much gold just to reset skills ?
their are so many skills to choose from, but very limited amount of gold we can get in a day. So why why does it cost SOO MUCH GOLD just to reset leaving us broke. I love to experiment in skills and builds but, the cost of resetting so much and it is limiting all players disappointing. We Pay $15 a month , this should be free and this should be included, Why do I even have to bother writing this post ?
I agree. It should be free all the time. There's no reason logically for gameplay.
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Jaxsun✭✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Basically it's a goldsink. There are not enough goldsinks in the game and this is one. I have 2 full loadouts as well as all crafting maxed out and still have plenty of Skillpoints and still don't have all the ones from Cyrodill. Also its a way to make you think before spending skills.
Why do goldsinks need to exist at all? They add no depth to the game. If you're spending your time trying to make gold you're not going to be able to spend your time doing what you want in game. It's counter productive.
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Basically it's a goldsink. There are not enough goldsinks in the game and this is one. I have 2 full loadouts as well as all crafting maxed out and still have plenty of Skillpoints and still don't have all the ones from Cyrodill. Also its a way to make you think before spending skills.
Why do goldsinks need to exist at all? They add no depth to the game. If you're spending your time trying to make gold you're not going to be able to spend your time doing what you want in game. It's counter productive.
If players didn't have things to sink gold into, they wouldn't need the gold at all and everyone would get incredibly rich with useless gold. The sinks they chose are unrealistic though. I like to wonder what the people of Tamriel would spend their gold on? Perhaps a castle and an army. Not a 42k horse and a few spots to stick their items. That's just lame.0 -
ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Basically it's a goldsink. There are not enough goldsinks in the game and this is one. I have 2 full loadouts as well as all crafting maxed out and still have plenty of Skillpoints and still don't have all the ones from Cyrodill. Also its a way to make you think before spending skills.
Why do goldsinks need to exist at all? They add no depth to the game. If you're spending your time trying to make gold you're not going to be able to spend your time doing what you want in game. It's counter productive.
To have an economy. If people make tons of gold with no gold sink everything is worthless.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/144754/why-we-get-punished-for-resetting-skills-by-paying-load-of-gold#latest1 -
Aett_Thorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP, you are NOT being punished for respecing. You are paying fake currency for a fake service, really.
You aren't "punished" for needing to pay for your car's oil change. You aren't "punished" for being charged to fly on an airplane. You are paying for a service. How is it different here? You are paying in-game currency for an in-game service. That's not a punishment...it makes sense.5 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm ok with it makes you think a lot more what you want long term
I'd agree with this. Knowing the cost of reallocating my points means that I am a lot more careful about which ones I spend and at what time. Each one actually feels like a meaningful decision about how my character will develop and what goals I am working towards at which time.
If it was free to respec then I doubt that I would be similarly involved in the process and if that happened now, I think I would miss it.0 -
s7732425ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Respec costs are so much gold? Are you serious, bro? I'm currently sitting at 750k gold, and respecing all my skills costs me 15k. And I respec like once every two months if that.
If you are complaining about the gold cost, it means you are respeccing way too often. There are enough skillpoints to have every skill unlocked and morphed and most of the good passives. You must be doing something wrong.
(Creating an alt character from level 1 - 50 by questing will net you 100k gold. You can respec your character multiple times with this. But why are you respecing multiple times?)1
