Maintenance for the week of September 15:
• [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – September 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – September 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – September 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – September 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
We need a maintenance BADLY. Server needs to be reset at the very least.
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I have encountered more bugs in the last few days than I have seen in months. Too many to even bother listing them all here, but to name a few: Quest NPCs not showing up in certain phases of dungeons. This has happened to me both in Blackheart and Vaults of Madness. VoM was worse because you complete the entire dungeon before you realize it was a waste of time and you can't turn in the quest. Blackheart bugs half way through.
Undaunted pledges bugging out. Groups under 50 getting error messages saying they can't enter the normal pledge version (Crypt of Hearts) because they aren't VR... even though the entire group is under lvl 50 and nobody even has the option to switch it to VR.
Etc etc. The list goes on.
I understand that ZoS employees have families just like most of us. I understand that many people have extended time off. But we need a reset or maint sooner than later.
Edit: Just tried VoM again. 2cnd boss bugged out. We reformed and tried it twice and the same thing happened. New players are grumbling about how buggy it is. I felt kinda foolish trying to explain that its been better lately, but my argument didn't hold much weight considering what we went through and what they saw with their own eyes. This isn't exactly what new players want to see. Especially with all the new attention the game is getting due to the CS and JS.
Update:
""ZOS_GinaBruno admin
September 2014 Staff Post
Starting immediately, we will be removing our second maintenance window (Thursday for the North American megaserver and Friday for the European megaserver), but will be keeping the maintenance window at the beginning of the week (Monday for the North American megaserver and Tuesday for the European megaserver).""
This was likely the last maintenance: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/143159/launcher-updates-12-15-14#latest
If I missed something after that, please correct me.
So next Monday will be 3 weeks, meaning that we skipped two weeks due to the holidays. The evidence of this laps is quite clear. Let's hope for monday.
Undaunted pledges bugging out. Groups under 50 getting error messages saying they can't enter the normal pledge version (Crypt of Hearts) because they aren't VR... even though the entire group is under lvl 50 and nobody even has the option to switch it to VR.
Etc etc. The list goes on.
I understand that ZoS employees have families just like most of us. I understand that many people have extended time off. But we need a reset or maint sooner than later.
Edit: Just tried VoM again. 2cnd boss bugged out. We reformed and tried it twice and the same thing happened. New players are grumbling about how buggy it is. I felt kinda foolish trying to explain that its been better lately, but my argument didn't hold much weight considering what we went through and what they saw with their own eyes. This isn't exactly what new players want to see. Especially with all the new attention the game is getting due to the CS and JS.
Update:
""ZOS_GinaBruno admin
September 2014 Staff Post
Starting immediately, we will be removing our second maintenance window (Thursday for the North American megaserver and Friday for the European megaserver), but will be keeping the maintenance window at the beginning of the week (Monday for the North American megaserver and Tuesday for the European megaserver).""
This was likely the last maintenance: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/143159/launcher-updates-12-15-14#latest
If I missed something after that, please correct me.
So next Monday will be 3 weeks, meaning that we skipped two weeks due to the holidays. The evidence of this laps is quite clear. Let's hope for monday.
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✭✭✭I know whats with that. Used to be twice a week now we are down to twice a month.3 -
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✭It's cause of the holidays . . . it's okay with me. They'll start maintenance again soon.4 -
Misa✭✭✭probably restarting monday
but yeah, seen bugged quests tooEdited by Misa on January 2, 2015 8:16AM0 -
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✭Yeah this is one thing that does bug me. They skip maintenance far too readily given that the servers are known to start to suffer. Every time they skip maintenance, they're doing it knowing this will happen.Allow cross-platform transfers and merges0 -
Vikestart✭✭✭I'm having all kinds of issues ingame now that I didn't have 2 days ago.
Combat animations keep freezing and some effects are not showing. The game generally feels unresponsive now.
A server restart is needed asap!1 -
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Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭Basic maintenance like security patches and restarts should be automatic with some offshore QA checking of boxes after they come up. So the system is either non-standard or behind the times if standard.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Could this be why when doing the templar charge, I got stuck with a glowing spear in my hands, unable to do anything but run while mobs started to swarm me?
LOL Its funny, but only if it happens once.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just a couple of comments.
1) The megaervers are being hit hard right now. There are a ton of new players in the game. This can cause latency problems on the server side (not in the latency number on the client)
2) They have been working for months on the megaserver longevity, and will probably continue to do so, so long stretches between maintenance actually helps us in the long term if they can see where they need to do additional work.
Yeah, these things should not be happening, but the servers should never be offline except for one reason: patch/update installs.
If they need to reboot to clean things out, then they have more work to do. Let's hope that they picked some hardware and software technology designed to handle this sort of continuous uptime. If they are dependent on rented PCs stacked on shelves and some freeware garbage, then we are truly in trouble.
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Vikestart✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Yeah, these things should not be happening, but the servers should never be offline except for one reason: patch/update installs.
If they need to reboot to clean things out, then they have more work to do. Let's hope that they picked some hardware and software technology designed to handle this sort of continuous uptime. If they are dependent on rented PCs stacked on shelves and some freeware garbage, then we are truly in trouble.
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.0 -
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Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
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Misa✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
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Oh. So I will have to wait longer to get that fixed.
It's like getting stuck with sex face.
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Misa✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
how does this thinking lead to laziness ? sure you can create a server for something simple that almost never needs a restart, but something like a game server which doesn't just run counter strike but actually a large mmo and handles A LOT of users and all their input very easily creates bugs and glitches that requires a restart0 -
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✭✭Getting stuck in (random) loading screens, getting stuck in zone stransitions, transit shrines in cyrodiil, exiting a dungeon, and more awsomeness. A reset would be very much appreciated.0 -
Vikestart✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
No, it's just how it works. Any system that handles millions of users will have to be rebooted at some point. Every 1-2 weeks is an ideal timeframe.
As someone else pointed out, new MMOs also have this, and there are technical reasons for it.
And it's not going to change
Not because of laziness, but because it simply isn't feasible. The game servers won't crash if they're not restarted, but weird glitches and bugs can occur. Edited by Vikestart on January 2, 2015 3:20PM1 -
RSram✭✭✭✭✭They should reset the servers before and after loading each update. We always rebooted the servers in the military at least once a month or after installing updates. Just makes good maintenance sense.
Note that we also configured our servers for fail-over and load balancing. Really easy to to with Windows servers.0 -
SLy_Kyti✭✭✭✭Agree with Original Poster, so many harvesting nodes need to be reset as they don't spawn, mobs not spawning, rubber banding, lagging when moving thru world; i. e. Next to wayshrine in upper crag getting 58-60 odd fps, moving a few horse strides away and getting 12 fps,
@ZOS_GinaBruno I can't attribute this to anything specific (like the mentioned laziness) however to bump server every Thursaday or Friday would show a little love to your dependable subscribers and help us in our codependency. Your thoughts?Master Crafter: Almost all motifs
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SLy_Kyti✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
No, it's just how it works. Any system that handles millions of users will have to be rebooted at some point. Every 1-2 weeks is an ideal timeframe.
As someone else pointed out, new MMOs also have this, and there are technical reasons for it.
And it's not going to change Not because of laziness, but because it simply isn't feasible. The game servers won't crash if they're not restarted, but weird glitches and bugs can occur.
What isn't feasible and why? Even the beta for EQ2 Next gets bumped daily, though not many are playing. I'd like your insight as to why ESO can't bump weekly.Master Crafter: Almost all motifs
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
how does this thinking lead to laziness ? sure you can create a server for something simple that almost never needs a restart, but something like a game server which doesn't just run counter strike but actually a large mmo and handles A LOT of users and all their input very easily creates bugs and glitches that requires a restart
There are few other industries like the software industry, and particularly the gaming industry, where malfunction is not only acceptable, but is considered normal.
When I say that this thinking breeds laziness, I mean that thinking of malfunction as normal, and therefore acceptable, is lazy. Lazy people have no interest in improving anything.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »
Huh, no. All MMOs do this. Server maintenance / restarts on a regular basis is completely normal.
This thinking leads to laziness.
This is 20145. We can build systems that will run with near 100% uptime. We can build software that does not have to be restarted every week in order to do garbage cleanup.
Aging systems, like Blizzard's WoW servers, need to be rebooted every week to do garbage cleanup. They probably still have legacy software in there that isn't even part of this century.
new mmos like wildstar, ffxiv, archeage has weekly maintenance too
This thinking leads to laziness.
how does this thinking lead to laziness ? sure you can create a server for something simple that almost never needs a restart, but something like a game server which doesn't just run counter strike but actually a large mmo and handles A LOT of users and all their input very easily creates bugs and glitches that requires a restart
There are few other industries like the software industry, and particularly the gaming industry, where malfunction is not only acceptable, but is considered normal.
When I say that this thinking breeds laziness, I mean that thinking of malfunction as normal, and therefore acceptable, is lazy. Lazy people have no interest in improving anything.
Well; while they try to figure out what in their codes start to cause issues without having a server reboot; would be mighty courteous of them to give us that reboot to help our game play while they figure it out.Edited by technohic on January 2, 2015 4:08PM1 -
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