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Is this enaugh to run at max settings 4k resolution?

Shidapu
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Getting like 30+ fps at Dragon Age Inquisition..
Forgot to add, it is 2 GPUs only.
Edited by Shidapu on January 1, 2015 12:42PM
  • NotSo
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    Well you are obviously subscribed to the game so why not try it out.
    I am curious of the answer as well.
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  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    Damnit, im at good fps, 62-70. But the game feels like it is microstuttering every millisecond. :/

    Edit: Vsync fixed some of it, but fps down at 38-40. :(
    Edited by Shidapu on January 1, 2015 1:47PM
  • Sacadon
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    At the time 4K was released a few tried it with max everything hardware (only 2, GPUs I think) and they were not able to get a consistent 60 FPS on some common titles. This was approx 1 year ago. It's what encouraged me to wait on 4K... The results are also very dependent upon the game itself.

    Just glancing at your rig, I'd say you've def got the minimum specs but going off of what I remember you'll need more GPUs. That's a sick proc btw, really looking forward to games actually using all that.

    Have you called nvidia yet... They'd be able to make sure you've optimized all the pieces.
    Edited by Sacadon on January 1, 2015 2:04PM
  • Armitas
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    Shidapu wrote: »
    Damnit, im at good fps, 62-70. But the game feels like it is microstuttering every millisecond. :/

    Ok good, I'm not just seeing things.
    Retired.
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  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    At the time 4K was released a few tried it with max everything hardware (only 2, GPUs I think) and they were not able to get a consistent 60 FPS on some common titles. It's what encouraged me to wait on 4K... I'll see if I can dig up a link to it.

    Yeah i've been reading on the net the same thing, im aware being an early adapter, but was curious, i've been working alot lately, thats why im posting. :)
    Armitas wrote: »
    Shidapu wrote: »
    Damnit, im at good fps, 62-70. But the game feels like it is microstuttering every millisecond. :/

    Ok good, I'm not just seeing things.

    Vsync seem to fix the stuttering somewhat, but fps is low now. :(
  • NotSo
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    See if you can't adjust Vsync on your gpu instead of in game.
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  • Sacadon
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    See if you can't adjust Vsync on your gpu instead of in game.
    ^ this and use the adaptive option as it's even less impactful.

  • Sacadon
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    How many monitors are you running (3?) and are you using display port v1.2 or higher? I'm getting hardware envy now... if you get this working smoothly I may go buy this spec...
    Edited by Sacadon on January 1, 2015 2:19PM
  • LilChihuahua
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    V-sync is meant to help remove screen tearing not micro stuttering. Attually, v-sync can sometimes add additional stuttering effects when your frames dip. I recommend having it always off unless u get consistent 60+ fps which is the max refresh rate of ur monitor.
  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    See if you can't adjust Vsync on your gpu instead of in game.
    See if you can't adjust Vsync on your gpu instead of in game.
    ^ this and use the adaptive option as it's even less impactful.

    I've tried all kinds of combinations, not sure Vsync setting in Nvidia control Panel even works, can't see any difference ingame, with any setting. I am at the right place configuring the game in Manage 3D settings right? :) I added ESO in Program Settings.
  • Sacadon
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    Yes in manage 3d settings set Vertical Sync to On and also Triple Buffering to On. Then Disable vsync in ESO. Not sure if anything else for that GPU... the marketing material may mention here: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/adaptive-vsync

    I turned off all vsync on mine and just deal with the occasional tearing.
  • AshySamurai
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    Shidapu wrote: »
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    Getting like 30+ fps at Dragon Age Inquisition..
    Forgot to add, it is 2 GPUs only.

    Holy headnetch!!

    I can get ~30 fps only on medium (custom) settings. Jelaous :wink:

    How much did you paid for it (if it is not a secret)?
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  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    How many monitors are you running (3?) and are you using display port v1.2 or higher? I'm getting hardware envy now... if you get this working smoothly I may go buy this spec...


    Have you called nvidia yet... They'd be able to make sure you've optimized all the pieces.

    Got 4 Monitors connected, a 1080p tv, and 2 additional 1080p displays teamed up with a centered 4k screen in total. I've deactivated the TV output atm, since im already at the maximum atm.

    Running DP 1.2 yes, and it supports 60hz. :)
    Havn't called them yet, im new to Nvidia and don't know about their support yet, maybe i should try call them?

    It's a sweet machine aye, can't agree more, needs abit tweaking thats all..
    Just glancing at your rig, I'd say you've def got the minimum specs but going off of what I remember you'll need more GPUs. That's a sick proc btw, really looking forward to games actually using all that.

    Hehe yea i know, might be abit overkill, but when i built it, i had 4k in mind. :)
    V-sync is meant to help remove screen tearing not micro stuttering. Attually, v-sync can sometimes add additional stuttering effects when your frames dip. I recommend having it always off unless u get consistent 60+ fps which is the max refresh rate of ur monitor.

    Aye i know, but it's not screen tearing im having, i don't have those in the middle of the screen atm when having Vsync on, wierd i know.. It really feels more fluid having it on, but the wierd thing is, Vsync ingame is smoother than in Program settings forcing Vsync.

    Not sure what to do now, any other way to force it?
  • Sacadon
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    Ok so if you've no tearing then def don't waste time on vsync.

    Does it behave the same if you go back to just single 4K display? I'd get happy with it there first and then add the additional displays.

    Only reason I suggest calling Nvidia was because your setup was both new and unique and they could probably be more efficient at pointing you in the right direction. That is after you get past questions like, "is it plugged in".

    Good luck.
  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    Yes in manage 3d settings set Vertical Sync to On and also Triple Buffering to On. Then Disable vsync in ESO. Not sure if anything else for that GPU... the marketing material may mention here: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/adaptive-vsync

    I turned off all vsync on mine and just deal with the occasional tearing.

    Aye, then i was at the right place, strange then.. Doesn't feel like Vsync is on when forcing it thrue Nvidia Control panel.. :neutral_face:

    Thanks for the link, really appreciate it! A good read. :)
    Shidapu wrote: »
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    Getting like 30+ fps at Dragon Age Inquisition..
    Forgot to add, it is 2 GPUs only.

    Holy headnetch!!

    I can get ~30 fps only on medium (custom) settings. Jelaous :wink:

    How much did you paid for it (if it is not a secret)?

    Hehehe :blush: I feel you..

    Well, there's been quite alot invested in it, don't really know the full numbers yet. :open_mouth: I guess i can calculate it in a minute.

  • Sacadon
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    btw, I did notice a slight boost in perf when I went from Win7x64 to Win8.1x64... doubt that's any relevance to your situation, but if you plan on doing an upgrade I would do it before you spend time with support.
  • Shidapu
    Shidapu
    Ok so if you've no tearing then def don't waste time on vsync.

    Does it behave the same if you go back to just single 4K display? I'd get happy with it there first and then add the additional displays.

    Only reason I suggest calling Nvidia was because your setup was both new and unique and they could probably be more efficient at pointing you in the right direction. That is after you get past questions like, "is it plugged in".

    Good luck.
    btw, I did notice a slight boost in perf when I went from Win7x64 to Win8.1x64... doubt that's any relevance to your situation, but if you plan on doing an upgrade I would do it before you spend time with support.

    I will try switching to single display then, i'll report back.

    Haha yea i know, support usually thinks you are clueless, until you get in contact with the real support. :)

    I had Windows 8.1 earlier, but i encountered an issue and the Windows died, lost some stuff and went for Windows 7.. Not sure if it was my own fault, i like to do some registry edits here and there.. I know, silly.. :sweat_smile:
  • Shidapu
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    OH MY GOD. well scrap that. I found the issue now.. Was running game in Fullscreen Borderless window. Going Fullscreen and everything is super smooth with the recommended Vsync via Nvidia control panel. 60 constant fps. yeeey! :heart:
  • Shidapu
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    Okey, so another issue now, alt tabbing out of the game, and the Chrome Browser is super slow. :wink: Any solutions to that? hehe :expressionless:
  • Shidapu
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    I went ahead and forced 16x Anisotropic filtering, 8x AA and 8x Supersample. No difference in fps. :blush:

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    Edited by Shidapu on January 1, 2015 2:55PM
  • Soulac
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    Well these options are GPU based, so overclock your CPU (its at the limit if these options don´t change the fps)
    You don´t need to deactivate your other screens for more fps as long as you don´t play on more than one monitor.
    And "microstuttering" is normal for SLI @ ~40-60 FPS :)
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  • Sacadon
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    That's awesome you got it working... Does chrome eventually speed up after you alt+tab over and is it only chrome that slows... I'd expect it to be anything you switch to, but usually the lag clears a little once the os focuses on the other app. But considering how the os prioritizes, lag in this case I'm not surprised by. Either way, you just spent $10K or more of my money with this news :).
  • Shidapu
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Well these options are GPU based, so overclock your CPU (its at the limit if these options don´t change the fps)
    You don´t need to deactivate your other screens for more fps as long as you don´t play on more than one monitor.
    And "microstuttering" is normal for SLI @ ~40-60 FPS :)

    Aye, i know. :) Running CPU at 4.5Ghz atm, higher and it becomes unstable.
    Don't know that much about over-voltage and safe measures.

    Okies, i'll remember that about SLI then, i guess Nvidia supplies profiles? or is Gsync the only option? I rather just play on the 4k screen.. heheh :)
    That's awesome you got it working... Does chrome eventually speed up after you alt+tab over and is it only chrome that slows... I'd expect it to be anything you switch to, but usually the lag clears a little once the os focuses on the other app. But considering how the os prioritizes, lag in this case I'm not surprised by. Either way, you just spent $10K or more of my money with this news :).

    Hmm, Chrome seems to be excluded from hardware acceleration when having game in the background, closing the game and the browser comes to life again, the symptom is like running the browser at less than 1fps.

    Aye might have been $10k, might be more, not sure. :blush: It's great you have some ideas now for your future PC then! :)
  • Sacadon
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    My gut tells me it's not hardware accel for chrome... but if you test it would be curious to know.

    I'm thinking that because games running in true fullscreen mode have direct control of the screen output vs. borderless windowed mode which the OS window manager (loose term) controls where the output goes. In this situation, the switch from exclusive control over the video back to the OS window manager (loose term again) results in lag while many system resources shuffle/spin-up/down. I'm not sure if ESO runs in true full screen or not which would make the direct video control less likely of the cause. I wish I had a solution for you on this one but I don't. If I come up with anything useful I'll let you know :).
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