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How exactly is seeing enemy magic bars not considered cheating?

dietlime
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If I can't do it with the game, and you modify it, how is that not cheating? If I could check your health mid-game in Counter-Strike, that would give me an unfair advantage. How can you be allowing people to read my resource numbers - which should only be visible to me - and not consider them hackers?

What the hell, ZoS?
  • dietlime
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    THis is very CORE to the gameplay. If you can see my stamina, and I can't see yours; you'll win in PvP every time: because you know when I can block or not, and I don't. You can intentionally bleed me out and put your damage skill at the worst possible moment with absolute certainty.

    I don't want to ruin the game's UI, that's one of the things about it that I enjoy that sets it apart from other MMO's; a UI that isn't hideous.

    Are there any addons that level the playing field without changing the entire UI?

    Specifically War-legend HUD:

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info27-WarLegendHUD.html

    The *** is that? As if big full-screen red letter "DISABLED" warnings aren't unfair enough, you can see the other player's stamina? What the ***? And their *** skills? So you can instantly *** know exactly what they're capable of in totality?

    Is that really intended design?

    If so, why isn't that included in the game?
    Edited by dietlime on December 27, 2014 3:39AM
  • Elsonso
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    Uh.

    That add-on is so ancient that I would guess that it does not work anymore?
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  • Garkin
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    I believe that you saw very old addon which was designed during the beta and you have jumped to conclusion that it still works.

    It's not possible to get any information about target's magicka and stamina sice patch in March (ESO was released after that - on April 4).
    Edited by Garkin on December 27, 2014 5:06AM
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  • Glory
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    Garkin wrote: »
    I believe that you saw very old addon which was designed during the beta and you have jumped to conclusion that it still works.

    It's not possible to get any information about target's magicka and stamina sice patch in March (ESO was released after that - on April 4).

    /thread
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  • Darkonflare15
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    dietlime wrote: »
    THis is very CORE to the gameplay. If you can see my stamina, and I can't see yours; you'll win in PvP every time: because you know when I can block or not, and I don't. You can intentionally bleed me out and put your damage skill at the worst possible moment with absolute certainty.

    I don't want to ruin the game's UI, that's one of the things about it that I enjoy that sets it apart from other MMO's; a UI that isn't hideous.

    Are there any addons that level the playing field without changing the entire UI?

    Specifically War-legend HUD:

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info27-WarLegendHUD.html

    The *** is that? As if big full-screen red letter "DISABLED" warnings aren't unfair enough, you can see the other player's stamina? What the ***? And their *** skills? So you can instantly *** know exactly what they're capable of in totality?

    Is that really intended design?

    If so, why isn't that included in the game?
    Yeah I consider it cheating but to say it to self proclaim pro or expert they would say" if you do not use it and you keep losing then it your fault for not using it".
  • dietlime
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    Garkin wrote: »
    I believe that you saw very old addon which was designed during the beta and you have jumped to conclusion that it still works.

    It's not possible to get any information about target's magicka and stamina sice patch in March (ESO was released after that - on April 4).

    /thread
    Lol

    I'm satisfied! I was trying to find the API calls and freaking the *** out because I could not figure out how they were doing it!

    I AM PERMANOOB, WHY GOD
    Edited by dietlime on December 29, 2014 4:24AM
  • katkat42
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    dietlime wrote: »
    Garkin wrote: »
    I believe that you saw very old addon which was designed during the beta and you have jumped to conclusion that it still works.

    It's not possible to get any information about target's magicka and stamina sice patch in March (ESO was released after that - on April 4).

    /thread
    Lol

    I'm satisfied! I was trying to find the API calls and freaking the *** out because I could not figure out how they were doing it!

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  • dietlime
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    May I have some 1.6 please sir, I want the squabble about CP to stop :(

    I'm pretty sure there is some angle to the new system we don't understand.
  • Ourorboros
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    dietlime wrote: »
    If I can't do it with the game, and you modify it, how is that not cheating? If I could check your health mid-game in Counter-Strike, that would give me an unfair advantage. How can you be allowing people to read my resource numbers - which should only be visible to me - and not consider them hackers?

    What the hell, ZoS?
    Any information that comes from use of an add-on is not cheating. ZOS decides what add-on can and cannot do. So, unless ZOS made a mistake, it's been legitimized by them. Just another piece of the add-on puzzle created by ZOS.
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  • Darlgon
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    dietlime wrote: »
    May I have some 1.6 please sir, I want the squabble about CP to stop :(

    I'm pretty sure there is some angle to the new system we don't understand.

    Here.. a diversion.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/144646/destroying-your-own-alliances-resource-towers-2014-12-31#latest
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