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People with a VR1 character don't deserve as many CP as people with a VR14 character
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »people who are VR1 will be able to earn points much faster than people who are VR14
WAT? VR1 need the same amount of XP to get one CP. Or I missed something?
How about the fact that caldwell silver and gold give toons of xp? Do you even know how this game works?
Cadwell's Silver and Gold give XP - yes. Tonns of XP - no.
You still have a lot of quests to do - daily pledges, daily crafting writs, repeatable quests in Craglorn. Also, you can now level alt to VR1 and start doing Cadwell's Silver and Gold and get this "easy" XP.
You can go on with your whining (I hope it is not QQ) or you can adapt (especially when you have time for it). Your choise.
Daily pledges: useless.
Daily writs: useless.
Why anyone would waste time on them unless they are bored to death or haven't reached max lvl in undaunted is a mistery to me. I don't want. Or should have to level an extra character to REDO CONTENT I'VE ALLREADY DONE FFS.
First you whine about no other ways to gain XP. Now you deny proposed options. ZOS already said that all activity will grant you same amount of XP, so it's only your choise what to do in game.
And if you going to quit, can I have your stuff?
They also said my xp would be tracked and I'd get CP for it. Sup with that?
Undaunted quests are useless, less people do them everyday.
Writs give marginal XP and barely anyone do them.
Once again, I have 35 million of XP earned since I'm VR14 plus de 10million+ needed to get to VR14. Thats 45 million XP + than someone who is VR1. So I do deserve more XP than a VR1 who hasn't done anything.
If you choose not to understand this go bring your fanboyness to an other post and I won't quit untill the game goes F2P.
A person who has 5xVR 8s (finished gold and Silver) and no VR14s will your AMAZING VR14 deserve more CPs then that person? Are we talking EXP for your account? A person with 6 VR2s will have more exp then a VR14...
Oh noes, ZOS should track all XP after VR1 for all chars like they said they would :-).
But as ink said 6VR2s is still less XP than a VR14 and as I said I earned 35million xp past the 14 million of VR14 so if we track XP I still got more than a guy who has 5VR8 :-)
I love how both of you disregard all the leveling to get to VR1.
Entitled players, I hope they give you all of the CPs so you will be done with the game and leave.
You're just desperate to find more excuses to justify your fanboyism. Xp up to level 50 doesn't grant CP so it doesn't matter.
Fact is 30CP is not an issue with the game and is not an issue that needs to be fixed its all the other problems that need to be fixed.
Like I said someone would be mad no matter how many CP you get... your VR14 is not special, like I think I have said I have 2 VR14s one leveled through grinding early and 1 doing all the quests. I have a VR1 which has way more play time and a better balanced player (has all the traits researched). My VR14 under your system would have 40 or 50million experience over level VR14 through grinding so I would receive more CP then most but I think 30 is fair for a new system. (Just like how it was fair when EQ gave 0 Advancement points for our players when they added the system)
The core of all the issues in this game ks ZOS not keeping their word and doing everything they can to cater to undedicated players.
You also fail to understand that nobody cares if you have 100 played days or the balance of your VR1 char, all of that is irrelevant. All that matter is e x p e r i e n c e. 30 is not fair for a char that has earned more XP than a VR1. 30 is not fair when they lied to us.
If they had said: champion system will be a restart of the game, we will give 30cp to everybody from VR1 to VR14 (aka anything you do from now till update 6 is for nothing) then me and half of people at end game would have unsubscribed while waiting for uodate 6.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on December 30, 2014 7:15PM6 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭@magnusnet
Now you said it many time.. But i do fail to see how its a restart or reboot of the game? Can you plz enlight me?
Can i do it all over again or gain the same points and rewards from quest
that would be cool... or.. Edited by kongkim on December 30, 2014 5:47PM1 -
Kaliki✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »Just like how it was fair when EQ gave 0 Advancement points for our players when they added the system
There's a difference between adding a system and replacing a system with another.
In the latter case it means stuff gets deleted and worthless unless you get compensation in the new system.
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@magnusnet
Now you said it many time.. But i do fail to see how its a restart or reboot of the game? Can you plz enlight me?
Can i do it all over again or gain the same points and rewards from quest that would be cool... or..
Restart? All xp and advancement from VR1 to VR14 disapears and isn't even compensated. Leaderboards are reset. Skills and armors all change. Combat system all changed. Devs called update 6 ESO2.0.
If you think MMORPGs are about questing you don't understand what MMOs are about. Questing is just an entertaining mean to get to end game and suposedly when it's not as easy as in this game, learn to play your character. Update 6 is a 100% reboot of endgame by Zenimax's own admitance.
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
So what next time there come something new, you also what more then others then? Its a new system and all start at the same. Seems fair to me...
Hope you had fun playing the game to VR14 as its a game, its no work as some here tend to think and it do not grant you acc. or free pass to start better then other on new content.
It's a system they had to implement because they failed at their original system. We shouldn't have to be penalised because they suck at making games. Moreover they told us to keep playing stating our advancement would matter. If they hadn't most people at end game would have unsubscribed and waited for champion system since its a reboot and nothing we have done counts.
We where lied to in order to keep us playing. This has nothing to do with "each time" nobody complained or asled for free levels when they increased cap from VR10 to VR14. This is totally different.
LOL.... No one lies they changed their planes its not lying.
And yes you are asking fore free levels as you gain CP per level.
And no its was not a waste of time as you had fun playing.. didn't you?
Call it change of plans, I call it a lie to keep us playing.
Fun or no fun, I would have unsubed and have fun somewhere else where it mattered. To me, if there is no compensation, I just wasted my time and got cheated out of my money. If they implement the system as is, I'll ask for a refund.
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kongkim✭✭✭✭✭@magnusnet
Now you said it many time.. But i do fail to see how its a restart or reboot of the game? Can you plz enlight me?
Can i do it all over again or gain the same points and rewards from quest that would be cool... or..
Restart? All xp and advancement from VR1 to VR14 disapears and isn't even compensated. Leaderboards are reset. Skills and armors all change. Combat system all changed. Devs called update 6 ESO2.0.
If you think MMORPGs are about questing you don't understand what MMOs are about. Questing is just an entertaining mean to get to end game and suposedly when it's not as easy as in this game, learn to play your character. Update 6 is a 100% reboot of endgame by Zenimax's own admitance.
Ok.. So now you say its only a reboot of the endgame so you lied to me before? How sad i am... now i feel how ZOS is to you..
And you think you know what a MMO is to all other people playing as you say endgame is all its about? I will say i DO KNOW that is not true fore many many playes that do love the questing and world content other then endgame.
An mmo is not all about that its a whole pack.
In all mmo skills and progress change all the time. Nothing new there to get upset over. Leaderboards also need a reset at some point to allow new players to try and get to the top. And it will happen again be sure of that.
So the only thing left to cry about is you saying you get nothing fore playing from vr1 to vr14. But you did get game time and fun time exploring the game and end game. its what you are paying fore, a game to play and have fun with. and you did get that. And also we still don't know if they give a reward when they remove the VR levels. no one knows. they are still here so you don't loss anything..
So what is left?4 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭
Call it change of plans, I call it a lie to keep us playing.
Fun or no fun, I would have unsubed and have fun somewhere else where it mattered. To me, if there is no compensation, I just wasted my time and got cheated out of my money. If they implement the system as is, I'll ask for a refund.
Come on.. tell me way its a lie and not a change? Has anyone said they promise you something? Or have they said manytime that things always change under development..1 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@magnusnet
Now you said it many time.. But i do fail to see how its a restart or reboot of the game? Can you plz enlight me?
Can i do it all over again or gain the same points and rewards from quest that would be cool... or..
Restart? All xp and advancement from VR1 to VR14 disapears and isn't even compensated. Leaderboards are reset. Skills and armors all change. Combat system all changed. Devs called update 6 ESO2.0.
If you think MMORPGs are about questing you don't understand what MMOs are about. Questing is just an entertaining mean to get to end game and suposedly when it's not as easy as in this game, learn to play your character. Update 6 is a 100% reboot of endgame by Zenimax's own admitance.
Ok.. So now you say its only a reboot of the endgame so you lied to me before? How sad i am... now i feel how ZOS is to you..
And you think you know what a MMO is to all other people playing as you say endgame is all its about? I will say i DO KNOW that is not true fore many many playes that do love the questing and world content other then endgame.
An mmo is not all about that its a whole pack.
In all mmo skills and progress change all the time. Nothing new there to get upset over. Leaderboards also need a reset at some point to allow new players to try and get to the top. And it will happen again be sure of that.
So the only thing left to cry about is you saying you get nothing fore playing from vr1 to vr14. But you did get game time and fun time exploring the game and end game. its what you are paying fore, a game to play and have fun with. and you did get that. And also we still don't know if they give a reward when they remove the VR levels. no one knows. they are still here so you don't loss anything..
So what is left?
People who are here for the questing are playing the wrong game and should wait for TES 6 :-).
Questers allways end up leaving MMOs and allways QQ about not having enough quests before thet leave like 90% of the "QQ i'm quitting this game" posts. I won't change your mind but when tou click on the uninstall button becaus not enough solo content, you'll remember me :-).
Edited by TehMagnus on December 30, 2014 6:12PM3 -
Huggernaut✭✭✭✭Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
This quoted for truth.
As plain as you can make it.
Edited by Huggernaut on December 30, 2014 6:11PM3 -
Oughash✭✭✭✭Since the 1.6 patch will not remove Veteran Ranks yet, i.e. it is only additive, I'm OK with 30 CPs given to everyone.
HOWEVER, the current statements indicate that when patch 1.7 (or whatever) drops and the VRs are removed, there will be no compensation for time invested. We V14s will be "normalized". That is [snip].
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on December 30, 2014 7:21PM2 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭@magnusnet
Now you said it many time.. But i do fail to see how its a restart or reboot of the game? Can you plz enlight me?
Can i do it all over again or gain the same points and rewards from quest that would be cool... or..
Restart? All xp and advancement from VR1 to VR14 disapears and isn't even compensated. Leaderboards are reset. Skills and armors all change. Combat system all changed. Devs called update 6 ESO2.0.
If you think MMORPGs are about questing you don't understand what MMOs are about. Questing is just an entertaining mean to get to end game and suposedly when it's not as easy as in this game, learn to play your character. Update 6 is a 100% reboot of endgame by Zenimax's own admitance.
Ok.. So now you say its only a reboot of the endgame so you lied to me before? How sad i am... now i feel how ZOS is to you..
And you think you know what a MMO is to all other people playing as you say endgame is all its about? I will say i DO KNOW that is not true fore many many playes that do love the questing and world content other then endgame.
An mmo is not all about that its a whole pack.
In all mmo skills and progress change all the time. Nothing new there to get upset over. Leaderboards also need a reset at some point to allow new players to try and get to the top. And it will happen again be sure of that.
So the only thing left to cry about is you saying you get nothing fore playing from vr1 to vr14. But you did get game time and fun time exploring the game and end game. its what you are paying fore, a game to play and have fun with. and you did get that. And also we still don't know if they give a reward when they remove the VR levels. no one knows. they are still here so you don't loss anything..
So what is left?
People who are here for the questing are playing the wrong game and should wait for TES 6 :-).
Questers allways end up leaving MMOs and amlways QQ about not having enough quests before thet leave lile 90% of the "QQ i'm quitting this game" posts. I won't change your mind but when tou click on the uninstall button becaus not enough solo content, you'll remember me :-).
The problem with that just is that i never cried or said anything about not having enough quests
I like it. and i like it alot. i also like end game. And you can be sure i will play this game in a long time. Also when you have gone rage quitting over new changes 
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Since the 1.6 patch will not remove Veteran Ranks yet, i.e. it is only additive, I'm OK with 30 CPs given to everyone.
HOWEVER, the current statements indicate that when patch 1.7 (or whatever) drops and the VRs are removed, there will be no compensation for time invested. We V14s will be "normalized". That is [snip].
Ofc not. When phase 4 enters some people will be extremely ahead in CPs, there is no way ZOS will credit CP for VR removal, that would make it feel even more unfair to the carebears.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on December 30, 2014 7:22PM3 -
Inklings✭✭✭✭✭@magnusnet
Hey teh magnus.
As a fellow end game player i'm also pretty upset about this new CP change. As are most people in our position. Sadly players like us don't seem to be doing enough to try to get the 180 they just pulled changed. I was wondering if you or others on the EU server have any plans to unite and help push a campaign to get this changed back to their original promise of "tracked exp". As players who belong to summit guilds, we have more access to ZoS reps and what goes on behind the scene. I really think there needs to be a push from the players ZoS turn to help test and submit reports on a monthly basis. We as a collective need to make it apparent to ZoS we arnt happy, and it needs to change if they want to keep receiving our help.5 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
I would totally give you everything you want just because you hold Zenimax in such high regard..........Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
Jarlaxle Baenrex V16 Dunmer NB3 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
So what next time there come something new, you also what more then others then? Its a new system and all start at the same. Seems fair to me...
Hope you had fun playing the game to VR14 as its a game, its no work as some here tend to think and it do not grant you acc. or free pass to start better then other on new content.
It's a system they had to implement because they failed at their original system. We shouldn't have to be penalised because they suck at making games. Moreover they told us to keep playing stating our advancement would matter. If they hadn't most people at end game would have unsubscribed and waited for champion system since its a reboot and nothing we have done counts.
We where lied to in order to keep us playing. This has nothing to do with "each time" nobody complained or asked for free levels when they increased cap from VR10 to VR14. This is totally different.
Why do you even play this game if it's so terrible? The forums gets why you want to throw tantrums, we are aware you want more CP for simply playing end game content.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
I would totally give you everything you want just because you hold Zenimax in such high regard..........
Zenimax is a company, I'm it's custommer, not it's buddy. I held them in high regard untill the 30CP bs.8 -
Oughash✭✭✭✭Since the 1.6 patch will not remove Veteran Ranks yet, i.e. it is only additive, I'm OK with 30 CPs given to everyone.
HOWEVER, the current statements indicate that when patch 1.7 (or whatever) drops and the VRs are removed, there will be no compensation for time invested. We V14s will be "normalized". That is bullsheet.
Ofc not. When phase 4 enters some people will be extremely ahead in CPs, there is no way ZOS will credit CP for VR removal, that would make it feel even more unfair to the carebears.
If pleasing the carebears is necessary, then simply award a flat amount of CPs for each VR equivalent to the amount of XP earned. I would be willing to forgo the "extra" XP I've earned over the last MONTHS (read ZOS: millions) that I've been VR14. For example: VR1: 30 CP + 0, VR2: 30 CP + X/14, ... , VR14: 30CP + X
I know we are on the same side of this. Its just irritating. I get a very limited amount of time to play each day -- I have one character with 100% of my time invested in it. That character has stayed relevant (e.g. max VR with max armor) because of my efficient use of time. That any of this progress would be normalized is outrageous.2 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@magnusnet
Hey teh magnus.
As a fellow end game player i'm also pretty upset about this new CP change. As are most people in our position. Sadly players like us don't seem to be doing enough to try to get the 180 they just pulled changed. I was wondering if you or others on the EU server have any plans to unite and help push a campaign to get this changed back to their original promise of "tracked exp". As players who belong to summit guilds, we have more access to ZoS reps and what goes on behind the scene. I really think there needs to be a push from the players ZoS turn to help test and submit reports on a monthly basis. We as a collective need to make it apparent to ZoS we arnt happy, and it needs to change if they want to keep receiving our help.
There are only like 3 or 4 competitive guilds left in EU, all unhappy about it, i supose most of us would def agree to be part of something like this but i doubt ZOS will care.
@Inklings
Edited by TehMagnus on December 30, 2014 6:41PM2 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
I would totally give you everything you want just because you hold Zenimax in such high regard..........
Zenimax is a company, I'm it's custommer, not it's buddy. I held them in high regard untill the 30CP bs.
You pay to be able to play the game. and you still can. And even a good game where there often come new things. and then you let 30cp ruin it all fore you.. that not even is in the game yet. And you don't even know what will happen or if you get something when they remove the VR level... So you complain of something you don't know.. Some people just like to see the world burn...4 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
So what next time there come something new, you also what more then others then? Its a new system and all start at the same. Seems fair to me...
Hope you had fun playing the game to VR14 as its a game, its no work as some here tend to think and it do not grant you acc. or free pass to start better then other on new content.
It's a system they had to implement because they failed at their original system. We shouldn't have to be penalised because they suck at making games. Moreover they told us to keep playing stating our advancement would matter. If they hadn't most people at end game would have unsubscribed and waited for champion system since its a reboot and nothing we have done counts.
We where lied to in order to keep us playing. This has nothing to do with "each time" nobody complained or asled for free levels when they increased cap from VR10 to VR14. This is totally different.
LOL.... No one lies they changed their planes its not lying.
And yes you are asking fore free levels as you gain CP per level.
And no its was not a waste of time as you had fun playing.. didn't you?
Call it change of plans, I call it a lie to keep us playing.
Fun or no fun, I would have unsubed and have fun somewhere else where it mattered. To me, if there is no compensation, I just wasted my time and got cheated out of my money. If they implement the system as is, I'll ask for a refund.
Then what keeps you here then? If I hated anything as much as you apparently hate TESO I would have left long ago, I wouldn't kick and scream on the forums and try to convince the rest of the players of my point of view. Calling someone a fanboi because he doesn't have the same view is just sad.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
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Pmarsico9✭✭✭✭These posts are making the community look stupid.
Vet Ranks persist in 1.6. When vet ranks go away, they MAY convert Vet Rank XP accrued into Champion Points XP. What is so hard to understand here?
1.6.5 or 1.7 aren't even being speculated upon yet..........BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RELAUNCHING THE GAME IN 1.6.................Edited by Pmarsico9 on December 30, 2014 6:32PM4 -
Inklings✭✭✭✭✭These posts are making the community look stupid.
Vet Ranks persist in 1.6. When vet ranks go away, they MAY convert Vet Rank XP accrued into Champion Points XP. What is so hard to understand here?
1.6.5 or 1.7 aren't even being speculated upon yet..........BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RELAUNCHING THE GAME IN 1.6.................
They have stated they arnt converting xp to cp in 1.7. THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS TO DO THIS! Stop saying there is.
People have to say their peace now before things go live and its to late. Get used to it. Its what forums like this are for.
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭They should relaunch the game and remove the EU server and all the characters on it and convert that sever into a banking sever 1 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
I would totally give you everything you want just because you hold Zenimax in such high regard..........
Zenimax is a company, I'm it's custommer, not it's buddy. I held them in high regard untill the 30CP bs.
You pay to be able to play the game. and you still can. And even a good game where there often come new things. and then you let 30cp ruin it all fore you.. that not even is in the game yet. And you don't even know what will happen or if you get something when they remove the VR level... So you complain of something you don't know.. Some people just like to see the world burn...
I pay to compete in the game and to advance. Not to play for months for nothing.
At least FF had the decensy to close the game and relaunch it.Edited by TehMagnus on December 30, 2014 6:36PM2 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭These posts are making the community look stupid.
Vet Ranks persist in 1.6. When vet ranks go away, they MAY convert Vet Rank XP accrued into Champion Points XP. What is so hard to understand here?
1.6.5 or 1.7 aren't even being speculated upon yet..........BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RELAUNCHING THE GAME IN 1.6.................
Rhey said they wouldnt in german forum.
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CP5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭These posts are making the community look stupid.
Vet Ranks persist in 1.6. When vet ranks go away, they MAY convert Vet Rank XP accrued into Champion Points XP. What is so hard to understand here?
1.6.5 or 1.7 aren't even being speculated upon yet..........BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RELAUNCHING THE GAME IN 1.6.................
Two things.
1.) QFT
2.) Can we some how get this mass posted everywhere so no one on the forums can miss it?
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Do the whining never stops.. You still have more points and better gear.. more what more and get greedy this its what its all about.
And the ignorance keeps going and going, we don't have more points and crafted gear is almost as good as looted gear taht it only makes a difference for min/maxers.
Moreover it's not about greed, it's about fairness. We earned the XP, we did the job, it's not our fault Zenimax released a crap game and had to redo everything less than 1 year after release nor should our advancement be dismissed because of their incompetence.
So what next time there come something new, you also what more then others then? Its a new system and all start at the same. Seems fair to me...
Hope you had fun playing the game to VR14 as its a game, its no work as some here tend to think and it do not grant you acc. or free pass to start better then other on new content.
It's a system they had to implement because they failed at their original system. We shouldn't have to be penalised because they suck at making games. Moreover they told us to keep playing stating our advancement would matter. If they hadn't most people at end game would have unsubscribed and waited for champion system since its a reboot and nothing we have done counts.
We where lied to in order to keep us playing. This has nothing to do with "each time" nobody complained or asled for free levels when they increased cap from VR10 to VR14. This is totally different.
LOL.... No one lies they changed their planes its not lying.
And yes you are asking fore free levels as you gain CP per level.
And no its was not a waste of time as you had fun playing.. didn't you?
Call it change of plans, I call it a lie to keep us playing.
Fun or no fun, I would have unsubed and have fun somewhere else where it mattered. To me, if there is no compensation, I just wasted my time and got cheated out of my money. If they implement the system as is, I'll ask for a refund.
Then what keeps you here then? If I hated anything as much as you apparently hate TESO I would have left long ago, I wouldn't kick and scream on the forums and try to convince the rest of the players of my point of view. Calling someone a fanboi because he doesn't have the same view is just sad.
I love TESO prolly more than you which is why I'm still here been waiting for the MMO since morrowind and I'll fight till the end to make it a good game instead of being a FANBOY of zenimax who glorifies all the *** decisions they make.
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yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@magnusnet look I get you are upset and you have every right to feel however you want to feel, but can you please stop insinuating that your XP after vet level was not tracked somehow?
I mean its been proven without a shadow of a doubt that they have tracked every XP you have earned in game. Now do what you will with that information, but please stop requesting they do something that they actually did in fact do.
Thanks, rage on.
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✭✭@magnusnet look I get you are upset and you have every right to feel however you want to feel, but can you please stop insinuating that your XP after vet level was not tracked somehow?
I mean its been proven without a shadow of a doubt that they have tracked every XP you have earned in game. Now do what you will with that information, but please stop requesting they do something that they actually did in fact do.
Thanks, rage on.
*edit past/present tense derp.
@Yodased i know they have tracked my xp i can even have access to it thanks to ogma and thats how I know i got 30million+ XP after VR14.
What they are not doing is rewarding the CP acordingly which is just like not tracking it. (Edit: And I doubt i've insinuated they haven't tracked it except on a hurried post since I've been saying since start they should give is CP acording to the tracked XP)Edited by TehMagnus on December 30, 2014 6:47PM1 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭These posts are making the community look stupid.
Vet Ranks persist in 1.6. When vet ranks go away, they MAY convert Vet Rank XP accrued into Champion Points XP. What is so hard to understand here?
1.6.5 or 1.7 aren't even being speculated upon yet..........BECAUSE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RELAUNCHING THE GAME IN 1.6.................
Rhey said they wouldnt in german forum.
That might change
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