cesmode wrote: »

[SNIP] And when I hit max level and drop another 20-50 hours into it or whatever grinding out vet level ranks...and if then I have "nothing" to do..thats ok too because in ALL MMOS you run out of things to do eventually.

More like 100-150 hrs now

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Why has this thread been necro'd? Did it not kill enough of our collective brain cells the first time around?

I don't really think 5 weeks is necro'ing a thread, especially if some of us still feel it's relevant (and given the events of the past week I think it has become more relevant).

Would you prefer I start a new thread in future?

SubSeco wrote: »

I'm pretty new to the game, I don't know anything about the endgame, but I freakin love it so far. If you want a downtime so they fix things, then just stop paying/playing and wait. You don't decide for everyone else.

No one is deciding really, just discussing the idea. Could it happen? Well, it's not outside the realms of possibility but, ultimately, it would be the parent company, Zenimax Media Inc, to decide.

Also, in subscription based MMOs, telling people to stop playing is never a good thing. Pushing for things to be fixed and improved is better.

Lastly, people unsubbing isn't going to give anyone a downtime to fix things, unless so many people unsub that they actually do just take the game down with a view to doing a relaunch.

bedlom wrote: »

This post is a joke, posted by a simpleton.

Nice ad hominem. OP clearly wants ESO to succeed and suggests, in his opinion, that ZOS should take the game offline, sort out the problems and relaunch a much more polished product.

If you feel ZOS can keep the game running whilst fixing the problems, fine, say so, just don't label someone a simpleton because they hold a point of view you disagree with.

Ohioastro wrote: »

The only thing that we learn from threads like this is that people desperately want their opinions to be validated. If the designers of ESO admitted somehow that they'd failed - in some dramatic way - then their unhappiness would be justified.

If the management of ZOS admitted they'd failed that would actually be a start, not because it would justify unhappiness but because it could well be the first step towards turning ESO around into something really great.

Ohioastro wrote: »

For example, you *do* know that relaunches wipe all progress, right? As in, all of those real-world months of crafting research flushed down the toilet? All of the things that people have accumulated, gone? All of the hours invested in character development eliminated?

Again, not neccessarily. Those with characters in FFXIV 1.0 were able to continue A Realm Reborn with those same characters and with their progress intact.

Cherryblossom wrote: »

I do brain surgery and I pay others to program my games, I expect them to be as professional as me.

Well, if the game cost one as much as brain surgery did, and the consequences of a screwup were are as severe, then that would be a reasonable expectation. But it doesn't, and they aren't, so it isn't.

OP=no idea how MMOs works. Just go back to Skyrim kid or learn what developing content means and stop making idiotic posts. What next? You will ask for refund for your precious time, as all ''cool kids'' did??

My take on things is that ZOS are employing a perpetual beta model but they're not able to say so because beta access was free and now they need the subs.

I mention this thread in another http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/143523/champion-points#latest and how with hindsight closing the game would have been the right thing to do rather than trying to change so much of the game and *** players off when they try to level everyone for relaunch.

For me, I feel they could keep this version open for those who want to continue to play but stop updating it. The main thing is keep version 2.0 completely separate and release in another year. Update the engine, fix the code, fix the network, do what needs to be done. Currently it's like trying to fix turd in your soup by adding more ingredients, while you may get most things right, the fact is there is turd in there that won't go away until you start again.

ZOS just close this thread. Good grief. It has no relevance anymore.

jeevin wrote: »

I mention this thread in another http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/143523/champion-points#latest and how with hindsight closing the game would have been the right thing to do rather than trying to change so much of the game and *** players off when they try to level everyone for relaunch.

For me, I feel they could keep this version open for those who want to continue to play but stop updating it. The main thing is keep version 2.0 completely separate and release in another year. Update the engine, fix the code, fix the network, do what needs to be done. Currently it's like trying to fix turd in your soup by adding more ingredients, while you may get most things right, the fact is there is turd in there that won't go away until you start again.

Delaying the launch had been smart, closing the game had been suicide.
You only do that in the setting where the customers is running away as mad.

No MMO is done at launch and lots of the problems will not be visible until the endgame anyway.

aisriyth_ESO wrote: »

Why is this thread still going? Even from September the game is quite different. This only serves to spread misinformation to new players. It should be locked at this point.

Same thoughts here. A mod really should just lock or remove this already.

Old threads like this really should be locked. The circumstances under which they were created bear no resemblance to what the game is now; and people are just responding to clickbait titles.