Resource Towers

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · December 2014

Although not game breaking or new to Cyrodiil, resource towers are small outposts within held resources where organized guilds / groups try and farm AP from the opposing faction despite the said resource being held by the opposing faction. All factions do it and it is pathetic and cowardly to be honest. It doesn't take talent or skill to for a group of 4 or more to smash a destro staff on the ground repeatedly at the door knowing the players who are brave enough or dumb enough to enter will take 1k+ damage upon entry because stacks of ground AOEs await them along with bat swarms from the impulse spamming monkeys. It is the delay upon entry that these groups / guilds are "exploiting". Honestly something as simple as removing the door to the resource towers would help rid some of the plague in Cyrodiil. Let the organized groups / guilds go earn AP on the battlefield instead of cowardly hiding behind a closed door at a HELD resource as they "exploit" the delay players experience when they enter the resource tower.

Hektlk · December 2014

If you know that this is going to happen when you walk through the door, why do you do it?

Cinnamon_Spider · December 2014

Or the people being farmed can just not go in. I'm always amazed at the number of people that walk into those tower farms. Some of them do it over and over. If there was no one to farm, then it wouldn't happen.

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · December 2014

Agree on both points but like to see it go away. AND no I don't go in without stacking some shields and with some back up. AND you both know it doesn't take long before these AP farming endeavors lead to an open siege of the keep that resource is tied to. So yes you can leave and then there is no AP but we all know it won't take long before more arrive. Just remove the door to the resource tower - seems simple enough to me.

Sallington · December 2014

It seems like recently the solution is to destroy the tower.

What would be nice is if this killed everyone inside. So they could hide inside or come out and die an honorable death.

JamilaRaj · December 2014

Hektlk wrote: »

If you know that this is going to happen when you walk through the door, why do you do it?

Because they are inside. Who could resist and not go after them?

FluffiestOne · December 2014

You part of the AD that LoM was farming at Roebeck Mine? If so, KEK. If not, I'm sorry you were exposed to being roflstomped.

MrGhosty · December 2014

It's part of the game, it keeps things interesting as opposed to the constant "run to keep, shoot at wall, break wall, shoot at another wall, try not to die" rinse and repeat of many sieges. I would however like the ability to shoot through the windows. Otherwise I would say it's a moot point really, it is also incredibly rewarding to go in and stomp them out. If it works you feel awesome, if it doesn't work you go elsewhere and feel awesome. Either way I feel pretty awesome and don't require missing doors. Merry Christmas!

Roechacca · December 2014

I imagine the lift of AOE cap in 1.6 will slow this down ? Not sure but maybe .

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · December 2014

Nope wasn't at Roe Mine but was at Roe Farm last night and that AP farm group was actually kind of fun to fight. But the resources need much tweaking and I think we all would agree to that. They are so insignificant in the scheme of things unless it means cutting off transit or those couple of important ones for staging sieges on a keep. I guess the only significance resources do serve is for organized AP farming. Sure they buff the keep's defenses but we as players have refined our sieging to a level that those buffs seem so insignificant. Just seems stupid to have resource towers serve as a pseudo-outpost for organized AP farming NO MATTER who holds the resources. Remove the doors, make the windows actually open, make the doors susceptible to damage, etc. If my memory serves me once an alliance caps a resource the tower is no longer susceptible to damage but maybe I'm wrong here.

treborrealb14_ESO · December 2014

roechacca wrote: »

I imagine the lift of AOE cap in 1.6 will slow this down ? Not sure but maybe .

Actually Im interested to see the change with the zerg buster bomb skill toss and blow.

But really can Zos just put 2 guards on lower floor?

Psilent · December 2014

A group did this the other day at the BRK mine. I went inside to scout, got killed, so told my group to set up siege and blow down the tower. Once the tower was down, we killed them. They ended up getting one kill and then feeding my group a nice defense tick.

We also leave towers destroyed. Since any guards taking damage flags the resource. Even though once we lose it, the other faction repairs them.

Subtomik · December 2014

Maneuvers+Immovable+dodge roll.

Mist form also makes it super easy to get by, get on top, and give them a oil bath.

Roechacca · December 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

Maneuvers+Immovable+dodge roll.

Mist form also makes it super easy to get by, get on top, and give them a oil bath.

Yep

JDar · December 2014

Towers are OP IRL too though so I don't get too mad about it. I don't like it either when this happens though.

Asgari · December 2014

All it takes is two people to wipe a guild inside or even start the farm it self. If the 30 + players who show up to these farms can't instinctively figure out a way to kill the players farming AP quickly then pvp isn't for them. Most of the time all you need to do is walk away and go stealth of in the distance for a few min and they will leave.

yodased · December 2014

just take the resource and wait for them to come out lol

cozmon3c_ESO · December 2014

Removing the door is a good fix, dumb doors get me killed more then anything.

Roechacca · December 2014

What they do need to fix is the leaking of AOE's through the doors and walls . I'm pretty sure that's not intended .

Cinnamon_Spider · December 2014

Its the same with the groups that go to the third floor of a keep and break the stairs. You either don't go up and wait til they're bored and come down on their own, or you go up with a large group.

RinaldoGandolphi · December 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

You part of the AD that LoM was farming at Roebeck Mine? If so, KEK. If not, I'm sorry you were exposed to being roflstomped.

Haha I know right, that was a blast! I couldn't believe they just kept coming in! Why would you do that rotfl

Rylana · December 2014

roechacca wrote: »

I imagine the lift of AOE cap in 1.6 will slow this down ? Not sure but maybe .

10 times worse actually

Just a couple of people with heavy AOE damage would be able to hold that door forever, because even if 20 people popped through at the same instant, they would all be hammered by the AOE in the second or two of transition time.

The ones who already know the strats to get through that door and up the stairs safely wont see a difference, the ones that do not or fail to execute, will suffer.

FluffiestOne · December 2014

I think this game is turning into just a QQfest, nobody complained about these things before, now all we have are babies that complain about everything. kek

Winnamine · December 2014

Sallington wrote: »

It seems like recently the solution is to destroy the tower.

What would be nice is if this killed everyone inside. So they could hide inside or come out and die an honorable death.

You can't destroy the tower if you own the resource.
If you're smart enough not to flip the resource, then that works, but there's almost always some pugs around who will flip it before you can siege the tower down.
But we break up tower farms all the time, it is totally possible to get thru that door without dying, if you know what you're doing.

RedTalon · December 2014

Like someone said in zone chat today and yells, stop going to the groups, there are other paths.

NordJitsu · December 2014

I actually think that the removal of the AOE caps will help with this. Especially Zerg buster skill.

But they should let us target people through windows and grates like you could early on in the Beta. I think it went away as part of the effort to make projectiles obey LOS.

But I am sure if they really try they can get it so we can shoot through windows and not Shoot through walls.

It would be hilarious to just sit outside the tower window and attack people with zerg buster bombs.

Tripwyr · December 2014

ZOS please stop fixing complaints like this one. They will always look for something to whine about, at least let it stay the same so that I don't accidentally open threads about it.

Jaerlach · December 2014

Tripwyr wrote: »

ZOS please stop fixing complaints like this one. They will always look for something to whine about, at least let it stay the same so that I don't accidentally open threads about it.

Its not like a lack of doors makes these players more able to deal with Alacrity, IR or Decibel farming the top of a milegate, anyway..

Asgari · December 2014

Jaerlach wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

ZOS please stop fixing complaints like this one. They will always look for something to whine about, at least let it stay the same so that I don't accidentally open threads about it.

Its not like a lack of doors makes these players more able to deal with Alacrity, IR or Decibel farming the top of a milegate, anyway..

They are only allowed to farm when Braidas and myself allows them too. Don't force us to get in our cubby and deeps like no one has ever deepsed before!

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Jaerlach · December 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Jaerlach wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

ZOS please stop fixing complaints like this one. They will always look for something to whine about, at least let it stay the same so that I don't accidentally open threads about it.

Its not like a lack of doors makes these players more able to deal with Alacrity, IR or Decibel farming the top of a milegate, anyway..

They are only allowed to farm when Braidas and myself allows them too. Don't force us to get in our cubby and deeps like no one has ever deepsed before!

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Tripwyr · December 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Jaerlach wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

ZOS please stop fixing complaints like this one. They will always look for something to whine about, at least let it stay the same so that I don't accidentally open threads about it.

Its not like a lack of doors makes these players more able to deal with Alacrity, IR or Decibel farming the top of a milegate, anyway..

They are only allowed to farm when Braidas and myself allows them too. Don't force us to get in our cubby and deeps like no one has ever deepsed before!

#FreeBigSpear
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Are you as ignorable as Braidas or do you actually do damage? :S