To the op..... are we playing the same game? You can't play as you want. You can't be a templar using a bow for dps and being the main healer in vet dungeons.(some guy thought so in this forum and was mad when he was kicked from groups). What's your "play as you want build?"

some players throw weapon builds on their templar's and sorc's ,
and call it a legit build for the class, when its really just the weapon
2.0 1.6 looks like it wants to change that... *slow building clap for now*

JackDaniell wrote: »

This is simply just not true. But I think that because so many people believe this they refuse to try something new. The best builds to play are the ones that play the way you want, and you can make what you want work if you just keep trying at it.

So give it a shot

I don't know if it's true, but I always respect people who try the utmost to make something work against (perceived) odds.

DDuke wrote: »

your opponent dies only when he runs out of health and magicka+stamina.

This pretty much summarizes how the game is balanced. It all about resource management.

As long as you keep this in mind you can play the way you want. But in my oppinion there are a small number of ways which work much better then all others.

If you want to be at the top of the leaderboards, and participate in the most competitve events/servers, you have to use the "best" builds. If you want to just have fun, then yes, play how you want.

Saying you can play however you want and still be competitive is a lie, but if you just want to have some fun, then yes, play however you want.

stamina Templars is a thing though. Its kinda up there in the regular builds. Like the DK fire mage or Night blade duel wielder. If your a Templar your running heals, you could dps with a two hander and or bow. I don't see people trying to dps magicka wise just because their numbers magicka dps wise aren't competitive numbers. Idk though, feel free to prove me wrong. I only know what a hear about Templars because I don't have a Templar myself.

Cody wrote: »

If you want to be at the top of the leaderboards, and participate in the most competitve events/servers, you have to use the "best" builds. If you want to just have fun, then yes, play how you want.

Saying you can play however you want and still be competitive is a lie, but if you just want to have some fun, then yes, play however you want.

To be competitive means you need to be good no matter how you play, no one's going to hand you a leaderboard spot for originality. It also tends to mean running with a group. In those cases how you want to play gives way to how the group wants you to play.

You absolutely can play how you want if you just are looking to have fun. This is also true if you measure personal success by acheiving objectives, (Completing the dungeon run, gaining reward tiers in Cyrodiil, ect), and putting the effort in. Effort being key, it'll take a lot of practice to succeed with an "unoptimized" build. My character Ra'ja, unarmed fighter, is proof it can work, and has even opened my eyes to tactics I didn't even know were possible.

But I often see people who say you can't "play how you want" setting up a standard to fail by. Like demanding to play a style that doesn't fit the group. The top groups tend to have similar styles because they are looking to squeeze every bit of optimization out of a run. As such there is little room to experiment as each member in the group has to fulllfill their role just right.

Just a common theme that's been coming up, I do infact play video games to have fun (being effective took a while to iron out but it worked
). If I did not have fun I wouldent play..

Most people are idiots when it comes to builds... They think the build is everything.. I have seen tons of so called dk dps destruction staff suck because they simply are not that good at playing.. they do not use pots they burn through magicka horriably and they get the bars screwed up.... A good dps sorc will out dps a poorly played dk dps......

Satiar wrote: »

Ehhhh I dunno. I've had great success with my builds, which many people are somewhat skeptical about at first. Yet I'm always top 2%, and do well against the best.

I dunno man, I hear you get wrecked by vamp feeds; clearly you need to be a vamp to counter that.

Also, I remember how you made me make 200 pact alts, homed in thorn so you could get that gold tier. I was promised blackjack and hookers, yet you failed to deliver!

I rolled my eyes reading the thread title.

Well played.

badmojo wrote: »

I rolled my eyes reading the thread title.

Well played.