So, you'd like more PvP content with new and improved Lag?

Personally, I'd be happy with Cyrodiil just working as intended, without lag, and only then new content.

Then again, it might take them till April next year to fix the lag, right about the same time new content arrives.

Did not have a chance to watch the stream, will have to check it out when it is uploaded.

Not even mention of PvP during the Justice System Q&A?

There was a brief mention of PVP during the general Q&A that started the show. They read a question about adding mid-level achievements to PVP and referenced a thread about them. Supposedly the devs were receptive to adding more achievements.

Otherwise, these ESO Live shows employ a version of the forum's word filter except the show filters terms like "Cyrodiil" and PVP" for example. I think the hosts might be fired if they talk about anything PVP related.

its clear they dont know what they are doing , i have no faith they will balance anything this next update.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Did not have a chance to watch the stream, will have to check it out when it is uploaded.

Not even mention of PvP during the Justice System Q&A?

Not only that but they intentionally IGNORED every PvP question asked in the chat during the show.

You would see the mods answer RP and PvE questions actively then go completely silent when a PvP question came up.

A decision has been made from the powers that be concerning PvP. It feels like a gag order. I just wish I knew what it was instead of merely feeling its repercussions.

Yeah I got a chance to sit down and watch it later when it was uploaded.

My connection took 2 hours of loading to play the 20 minutes or so that the Justice System segment took place in.

With no mention of PvP of any sort, sitting through it ended up being a waste of my time.

What would be nice is if game review websites started focusing on how the PvP community is largely ignored; perhaps the negative publicity would help encourage ZOS to actually do something for PvP players. Feel like they ignore us so much due to our complaints being isolated to the forums.
Wishful thinking though, at this rate it feels like ZOS is more inclined to simply delete Cyrodiil and turn the game full PvE rather than pay the meaningful attention to PvP that it so clearly needs.

The complete ignoring of PvP content during the Justice System segment suggests to me that the PvP aspect will not be added in update 1.7 either, so likely we will not see the Justice System actually implemented in the manner that was advertised until 1.8 or later, but ZOS apparently doesn't care as demonstrated by their completely unwillingness to mention it on a public off-site content stream.

If it was my desire to run around pickpocketing NPCs and escaping NPC guards with mediocre AI patterns, would just go play one of the single-player Elder Scrolls games.
The outlaws vs. guards PvP system was the only part of the Justice System that really felt compelling to me in an MMORPG setting.

Wonder what we as PvP players can do to stop from being kept as second-class citizens.

Teargrants wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Wonder what we as PvP players can do to stop from being kept as second-class citizens.

Come back when you outnumber the pve-only players.

Suppose this is a valid point. Minorities are prone to be discriminated against.

LOVE US ZENI :'(

They have limited resources (thanks to lost subs) and because of that, they have basically abandoned any real PvP support.

What usually happens in MMOs is they let go the main devs shortly after launch or at least the ones that did the donkey work. In this case I guess its pointing at the PvP devs. Then they get new cheaper labour rate devs to patch etc and they simply don't understand the coding that went into this and that and the original devs that left/got fired sit back and laugh as they watch the noobies try to figure out stuff.

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

resources have been diverted for console release imo, which they need the champion system and justice system in place so it doesnt fall flat like the pc release. justice system will make it actually feel like an elderscrolls game, and getting rid of the current vet system is a must or people will surely leave.

all this is going on while pvp is pushed to the side. i have seen the imperial city 2 months ago and it did look almost done, it was missing some loot tables, voices and some environmental effects but it looked pretty much done.

expect console release around april next year after they get all the bugs out from champion and justice system.

you really think console will be ready in April? They cant even release a patch with no bugs or even release the correct patch. How on earth can console even be done ever.... If it was spring or even 2015 Sony would be advertising it.